Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

esmeggs said:
I'm not sure if this was already posted in this thread but Olly, who can never resist the urge over-explain every single choice he has made in his videos, has already written an entire short essay on this. Of course he won't admit that using terms like actress is part of his fetish, so he just tried to claim that him using actor would somehow make other people use actor in a 'transphobic' way. Reminds me a bit of the 'indirect bigotry' point that Nyk made in his last video, if I'm remembering correctly.
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"<waggles eyebrows transphobically>", if I die before the end of the trans activist movement then I want that on my tombstone.
 
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Did these people even consider themselves women? Or were they just drag queens? And Olly’s obligatory race commentary sounds pulled right from his ass.

Anyway I can’t imagine looking at those pics and not feeling revulsion and/or pity. BURGEONING.
 
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Person: “My little girl died! I’m devastated!”

Abighoul: “Speaking of girls...I’m a girl now! My transition was like a death of sorts, babe.”

And scene.

Remember that tweet exchange when a childhood friend said something about their childhood exploits with Olly and then something about his own child reaching some sort of milestone or overcoming an aspect of autism? And Olly launched into a spiel about his boy memories being dead to him now or some shit? Just totally tone deaf and self obsessed.

I wonder what percentage of his Django costars hate his annoying fucking guts already?
 
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Tombigbee said:
Did these people even consider themselves women? Or were they just drag queens? And Olly’s obligatory race commentary sounds pulled right from his ass.

Anyway I can’t imagine looking at those pics and not feeling revulsion and/or pity. BURGEONING.
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Memory-holing the past is something that the lords of lies love to do and pretending that trans women always existed is a prime example for this. Even though progressives think that they're so cultivated and intelligent, they're often extremely historically illiterate and I do think that this is on purpose. In general they'd rather have you to believe all what they're saying and only consider the last 10 years as real history, anything before has to be contextualized by a black tranny at a university or shouldn't even be discussed. Just some examples:

- Don't look up if Western Europe was already rich or richer before colonization. This isn't a big secret but it takes some time to actually find this out becaue of the propaganda. Western Europe was more or less as wealthy and technologically developed as the rest of Eurasia during the Medieval Era. But due to certain cultural, geographical, religious and structural factors some countries of Europe like the Netherlands reached world-record economic growth in the 14th century that even surpassed the economic growth of wealthy countries/empires/kingdoms like China. The colonization of Africa was less about resources and much more about a "who-has-the-bigger-dick?" contest. Even today there is barely any correlation between rich European countries and the size of their former colonies. Spain is nowadays one of the poorest Western European country and had huge colonies. Even for most of the 20th century Spain was rather a poor country and it was only after the end of the fascist regime and economic reforms in the 70/80s that Spain reached the average wealthy Western standard. On the other hand we have countries with no or few colonies like the Scandinavian countries who have today one of the highest living standards. For most of history Scandinavia has been a less desirable region due to its geography and climate.

- Don't mention the Arab slave trade unless you show a disclaimer that American slavery has been worse. Progressives aren't really happy that more Americans know today about the Arab slave trade as they're afraid that people might to see the hypocrisy that Arab countries are considered to be accountable for nothing, but white Americans should self-flagellate for eternity.

- Don't watch old movies because they're problematic. However, this is also a way to keep you from comparing old movies to movies that are produced today. If you can compare them you know that most modern movies fucking suck. The only exception is if progressives can frame an older film as actually progressive, like for example Rocky Horror Picutre Show. Trannies really want to make us believe that this was a pro-trans movie. Mind that the main antagonist is a transvestite alien who is so sex-obsessed that he actually created a muscular man for him that he can fuck.

- Believe them that trannies existed in all cultures. But never read a non-politicized source that talks about this since you might learn that the third gender that existed in most cultures has absolutely nothing to do with the insanity of modern-day troonerism.


Now did trannies in the 50's perceived themselves as today's trannies do? Of course not and it's not difficult to find out if you consume old media. For a very long time there was barely made any distinction between transvestites, drag queens and trannies. All of these things were considered a variation of the same phenomenon. It wasn't not controversial either for a tranny to say at that time that it was just a fetish. Things started to change in the 80's and trannies was now a more defined group under the name of "transsexual". This is the conept we had until the early 2010's: "I was a born a boy but always felt like a woman". Now this is of course considered to be transphobic and being a tranny now means whatever you want it to mean. But I've just watched a snip of a german TV show because there was a tranny called Lorielle London that came out as trans during that time.

The link to the video for those of you who speak German. Here some things that were said:

1) The moderator asks Lorielle if he now feels like a woman. Lorielle said: "Yes, but I still hadn't done the bottom surgery so I'm not completely a woman". He never got angry that the moderator said that "you were once a man". A question that is today haram to ask most trannies.

2) He actually said that the surgery is very dangerous and that he isn't sure that he'll do it. He also said that it should look like the vagina of a real (!!!) woman.

3) He's asked if he likes men or women. He said that he's got a somewhat conservative idea what kind of family he wants: A man, children and a nice house with a white fence. Look look, a tranny who upholds white cis-het patriarchy!


Nowadays all of these things would be considered transphobic even though they were said by a tranny him/herself. Trannies are actually even worse than all other progressives since they don't only try to memory-hole history in general but also their personal history. Ollie is a prime example of this. They start to progessively remove any information that could inform you about their old self. It's only a matter of time until he'll remove all his old PhilosphyTube videos (which are basically all of his videos). He also has to pretend to like things like Eurovision just to maintain the illusion that he was always a brave trans woman and not a delusional straight faggot.
 
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pangolins said:
His original surname was Lennard, Oliver Thorn was a stage name he adopted due to acting union rules about performers having the same name. I don't know whether or not he changed his surname legally to Thorn when changing his first name. Interestingly he did a standup routine as a student under his original name which features a joke about intruding on women's locker rooms.

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I also found a huffpost article supposedly by him in defence of 4chan being allowed to be as offensive as they please, no matter who was offended. There is a lot of journalism done around that time on other websites also by an Olly Lennard who is identifiably him and RationalWiki says that it is him.
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Olly in this video really reminds me of this guy I was friends with in school who moved to the UK and got into stand up. Pretty sure he also took up pole dancing classes? Must check facebook and see if he trooned out too.
 
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Anyone want to start placing bets on what his 'magnum opus' video idea is? Keep in mind he constantly mentions that he doesn't want to become a channel focused on 'trans issues'.
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Has Ollie finally snapped and is going to make a video coming out as ContraPoints with the real ContraPoints tied up in his basement, wailing in the background?
 
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Cr1ms0n_&_C10v3r said:
Has Ollie finally snapped and is going to make a video coming out as ContraPoints with the real ContraPoints tied up in his basement, wailing in the background?
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As hilarious as that would be, I don't think so. The real Hontra wouldn't be wailing in the background, lying on the cellar floor, tied up and beaten - he'd be fucking dead, resting in a shallow grave while Ollie's parading around in his clothes, wearing his face.
 
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Tombigbee said:
The video pictured is a montage of people hitting their genitalia with planks, fists, etc. I’m not sure why he has quotes around “unacceptable.” Are the wait times unacceptable (to him) or not? Does he not know how air quotes work? 🤔
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The NHS is so fucked, I have a aunt who is a nurse in the UK and she would tell me horror stories about how she once had a moldy and sagging roof they were unable to fix for months so they just didn't bed anyone there. Olly talking about waiting times for trans people with no idea that there are people on a waiting list for months for much needed surgery, It's the norm with the NHS. Plus im pretty sure the UK doesn't want to use it's socialized medical system, to give olly tits.
 
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Memory-holing the past is something that the lords of lies love to do and pretending that trans women always existed is a prime example for this. Even though progressives think that they're so cultivated and intelligent, they're often extremely historically illiterate and I do think that this is on purpose. In general they'd rather have you to believe all what they're saying and only consider the last 10 years as real history, anything before has to be contextualized by a black tranny at a university or shouldn't even be discussed. Just some examples:

- Don't look up if Western Europe was already rich or richer before colonization. This isn't a big secret but it takes some time to actually find this out becaue of the propaganda. Western Europe was more or less as wealthy and technologically developed as the rest of Eurasia during the Medieval Era. But due to certain cultural, geographical, religious and structural factors some countries of Europe like the Netherlands reached world-record economic growth in the 14th century that even surpassed the economic growth of wealthy countries/empires/kingdoms like China. The colonization of Africa was less about resources and much more about a "who-has-the-bigger-dick?" contest. Even today there is barely any correlation between rich European countries and the size of their former colonies. Spain is nowadays one of the poorest Western European country and had huge colonies. Even for most of the 20th century Spain was rather a poor country and it was only after the end of the fascist regime and economic reforms in the 70/80s that Spain reached the average wealthy Western standard. On the other hand we have countries with no or few colonies like the Scandinavian countries who have today one of the highest living standards. For most of history Scandinavia has been a less desirable region due to its geography and climate.

- Don't mention the Arab slave trade unless you show a disclaimer that American slavery has been worse. Progressives aren't really happy that more Americans know today about the Arab slave trade as they're afraid that people might to see the hypocrisy that Arab countries are considered to be accountable for nothing, but white Americans should self-flagellate for eternity.

- Don't watch old movies because they're problematic. However, this is also a way to keep you from comparing old movies to movies that are produced today. If you can compare them you know that most modern movies fucking suck. The only exception is if progressives can frame an older film as actually progressive, like for example Rocky Horror Picutre Show. Trannies really want to make us believe that this was a pro-trans movie. Mind that the main antagonist is a transvestite alien who is so sex-obsessed that he actually created a muscular man for him that he can fuck.

- Believe them that trannies existed in all cultures. But never read a non-politicized source that talks about this since you might learn that the third gender that existed in most cultures has absolutely nothing to do with the insanity of modern-day troonerism.


Now did trannies in the 50's perceived themselves as today's trannies do? Of course not and it's not difficult to find out if you consume old media. For a very long time there was barely made any distinction between transvestites, drag queens and trannies. All of these things were considered a variation of the same phenomenon. It wasn't not controversial either for a tranny to say at that time that it was just a fetish. Things started to change in the 80's and trannies was now a more defined group under the name of "transsexual". This is the conept we had until the early 2010's: "I was a born a boy but always felt like a woman". Now this is of course considered to be transphobic and being a tranny now means whatever you want it to mean. But I've just watched a snip of a german TV show because there was a tranny called Lorielle London that came out as trans during that time.

The link to the video for those of you who speak German. Here some things that were said:

1) The moderator asks Lorielle if he now feels like a woman. Lorielle said: "Yes, but I still hadn't done the bottom surgery so I'm not completely a woman". He never got angry that the moderator said that "you were once a man". A question that is today haram to ask most trannies.

2) He actually said that the surgery is very dangerous and that he isn't sure that he'll do it. He also said that it should look like the vagina of a real (!!!) woman.

3) He's asked if he likes men or women. He said that he's got a somewhat conservative idea what kind of family he wants: A man, children and a nice house with a white fence. Look look, a tranny who upholds white cis-het patriarchy!


Nowadays all of these things would be considered transphobic even though they were said by a tranny him/herself. Trannies are actually even worse than all other progressives since they don't only try to memory-hole history in general but also their personal history. Ollie is a prime example of this. They start to progessively remove any information that could inform you about their old self. It's only a matter of time until he'll remove all his old PhilosphyTube videos (which are basically all of his videos). He also has to pretend to like things like Eurovision just to maintain the illusion that he was always a brave trans woman and not a delusional straight faggot.
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The current lefts need to rewrite history reminds me of the Nazis ( i know a tired comparison but hear me out). They to revised history to make themselves out to be super aryan humans, with their fake runes and shit. Same with the left today but this time instead of making out they are super humans deserving of respect they revise history to make out they existed and people were very forgiving and treated it as normal while simultaneously making out they are the most oppressed.
 
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