Clashes between Jews and Palestinians in Jerusalem. Israel now invading Gaza according to (Questionable) Reports - If your thoughts are "I don't like either" you don't need to fucking post because it's been said 100 times you fucking dullard

[Hellbound Hellhound]

hamas getting elected in the west bank would end the political division of palestine and unify all palestinians under one government, it would give a ton of legitimacy (both internationally and internally) to hamas, and open up a lot more operational area to use for their future attacks on the jews. gaza is relatively easy to seal off because its borders are neat and tidy, but the west bank is much larger, less densely popoulated, and israel can't just blockade it completely because there's a bunch of jew settlers in the area too

A Hamas government wouldn't have any legitimacy, because they're a bunch of terrorists, and the international community knows this full well. Militant groups like Hamas aren't interested in building a functioning state; they simply want to destroy Israel, and if what's supposed to be the governing body of the Palestinian territories were ever to do away with any pretense of being a legitimate state, then that simply grants Israel the license to do the same, and the odds are not in Palestine's favor.

The West Bank is largely blockaded already, with the Israeli-West Bank barrier, and while the West Bank is bigger and less densely populated than Gaza, the geography of the region would be somewhat of a double-edged sword for Hamas, since there are more places to attack, but less places to hide. Not being able to hide amongst civilians in densely populated streets would make the Israeli rules of engagement easier, and in the absolute worst case scenario, Israel could simply withdraw some/all of it's settlements, as they did in Gaza.

 

[Homophobic white dog]

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Well this is interesting, since Bennett is a giga-annexationist.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

Well this is interesting, since Bennett is a giga-annexationist.

Giga-annexationist in that he wanted to annex the West Bank?

 

[Homophobic white dog]

Giga-annexationist in that he wanted to annex the West Bank?

Area C, and turn Area A and B into autonomous areas of Israel under what I assume would be an even more domesticated PA. His party isn't even pretending to adhere to the two state delusion like Bibi does.

Make of that what you will.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

Area C, and turn Area A and B into autonomous areas of Israel under what I assume would be an even more domesticated PA. His party isn't even pretending to adhere to the two state delusion like Bibi does.

Make of that what you will.

If he gets into power...things are about to get interesting. Bibi abandoned his annexation plans in return for peace treaties with other Arab states. Lets see where this goes.

 

[Meat Target]

Area C, and turn Area A and B into autonomous areas of Israel under what I assume would be an even more domesticated PA. His party isn't even pretending to adhere to the two state delusion like Bibi does.

Make of that what you will.

All your sand are belong to us.

 

[Scrumption]

Bennett has made clear that he will do everything in his power to ensure that a Palestinian state never comes to fruition. If he is put into power, I predict that the international opinion of Israel will fall considerably. I don't know what him being in power would mean for Gaza, but for a number of Palestinians in the West bank, it may mean getting their homes steamrolled. Certainly, that wouldn't be a good look.

Lapid on the other hand is more receptive to negotiations with the Palestinian Authority, but following 2010 he clarified that he has a pro-settlement position. Good luck to him in negotiating with the PA, because they are not going to like that.

I am uncertain on what this alliance would mean for the orthodox block in Israel since Lapid has been supportive of the legalization of common law marriage, which the chief rabbinate is against.

 

[>tfw no Asian gf]

So Bibi got cucked out of power? If true then F

 

[Homophobic white dog]

All your sand are belong to us.
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Most of it is not sand, I'm afraid, but pretty decent Mediterranean land. Only the Negev is sand.

Bennett has made clear that he will do everything in his power to ensure that a Palestinian state never comes to fruition. If he is put into power, I predict that the international opinion of Israel will fall considerably. I don't know what him being in power would mean for Gaza, but for a number of Palestinians in the West bank, it may mean getting their homes steamrolled. Certainly, that wouldn't be a good look.

Lapid on the other hand is more receptive to negotiations with the Palestinian Authority, but following 2010 he clarified that he has a pro-settlement position. Good luck to him in negotiating with the PA, because they are not going to like that.

I am uncertain on what this alliance would mean for the orthodox block in Israel since Lapid has been supportive of the legalization of common law marriage, which the chief rabbinate is against.

The centrists and centre-left in Israel are conditional two statists, the idea isn't popular anymore so they had to dilute the position by saying they wouldn't sacrifice the major settlement blocs like Ariel. Both Lapid and the Labour fags have this position.
Meretz doesn't but Meretz is a meme and it's the kind I wish would just die as quickly as possible. And it's dying quickly but not nearly as quickly as I want.
Two states is a dead meme, and honestly it was never a good idea to begin with, countries with exclaves making 30-40% of their territory and a significant portion of the population, all the while there is an unfriendly state inbetween, historically don't do too well.
Bangladesh used to be a Pakistani province and it just didn't work out, too big, not to mention that its population was larger than West Pakistan's. Admittedly there was also a cultural aspect to it that is attenuated here, but still, it was a disaster waiting to happen.

My impression is really that most Israelis are happy with their current situation, which is what has given Bibi his position for so long.
The problem is, the current situation isn't sustainable for either them or the Arabs, and I don't think anything short of one single uniform rule all over can really fix this, provided everyone gets his citizenship and access to water and services.
It would be an unpopular move on both sides at first, but on the long run it would work if the Jewish majority is kept, and the Jews are already a majority which isn't in any jeopardy.

 

[draggs]

tfw when finally get rid of bibi but his replacements are even more right wing

i highly doubt lapid will ever be PM, once bibi is fully out of the way likud can hook up with bennett

 

[Sweet and Savoury]

It's my opinion that this new peace deal will last 10 days.

Once BiBi is gone Bennett and co will grab any excuse to end the Palestine question once and for all.

Hamas better buckle thier sphincters cuz there's a storm a coming.

 

[GreenJacket]

This line of reasoning doesn't make any sense to me. Hamas getting elected would be a huge boon to the Israeli cause, as it would very clearly blur the lines between Palestinian civilians and Hamas militants, and thus, finally destroy any international legitimacy the Palestinian claim of statehood may once have had.

I think Fatah knows this too, which is probably why Abbas is currently 16 years into a 4 year term.

The drawback of diminishing the United States' moral legitimacy, which you kikes are responsible for, is that most people stop caring what this government declares to be a 'terrorist organization.' I utterly hate Israel, and I would consider it moralizing to see a like-minded organization in any form of power.

 

[Hellbound Hellhound]

The drawback of diminishing the United States' moral legitimacy, which you kikes are responsible for, is that most people stop caring what this government declares to be a 'terrorist organization.' I utterly hate Israel, and I would consider it moralizing to see a like-minded organization in any form of power.

Israel is a beacon of pluralism and opportunity in an otherwise despotic and backward part of the world. Why would you spend so much of your energy hating them when their enemies are clearly so much worse?

 

[Str8Bustah]

Israel is a beacon of pluralism and opportunity in an otherwise despotic and backward part of the world. Why would you spend so much of your energy hating them when their enemies are clearly so much worse?

because it's filled with kikes and hadrian should have purged them even harder back when he did the sacking of the temples.

 

[biozeminadae1]

Israel is a beacon of pluralism and opportunity in an otherwise despotic and backward part of the world. Why would you spend so much of your energy hating them when their enemies are clearly so much worse?

Many Arab countries are opportunistic, like UAE.
I don't understand why I should like Israel. I respect and admire them for withstanding their ground, but so what?

 

[Hellbound Hellhound]

Many Arab countries are opportunistic, like UAE.
I don't understand why I should like Israel. I respect and admire them for withstanding their ground, but so what?

The wealth of those countries is owed almost exclusively to their oil reserves. They're still very far behind Israel in the realms of social progress, technological development, and human rights, and if it wasn't for Western expertise, they'd be just as poor as they were before they struck oil. My point still stands.

 

[AnOminous]

You're still here? It's over. Go home.

Nice Ferris Bueller reference.

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Things like this always remind me of the old joke where Hitler is telling his cabinet okay, so we are going to kill six million Jews and one blonde chick with big tits and Goebbels is like why are we killing a blonde chick with big tits? And Hitler says "see I told you nobody would care about the Jews."

 

[LurkNoMore]

They're still very far behind Israel in the realms of social progress, technological development, and human rights,

Lol, we have pedophiles dressing in drag in front of children and doctors mutilating the genitals of those same kids the next day. All while criminals terrorize citizens and the murder rate climbs. That "social progress" is a bowl of shit. I don't blame the arabs for wanting to be backwards and not wanting to eat shit.

 

[DumbDude42]

The wealth of those countries is owed almost exclusively to their oil reserves. They're still very far behind Israel in the realms of social progress, technological development, and human rights, and if it wasn't for Western expertise, they'd be just as poor as they were before they struck oil. My point still stands.

'social progress' is cancer tbh and 'human rights' is a meme
israel has a large tech and wealth advantage mostly due to receiving bazillions of aid from guilt tripped eurofags and AIPAC controlled america

 

[Hellbound Hellhound]

Lol, we have pedophiles dressing in drag in front of children and doctors mutilating the genitals of those same kids the next day. All while criminals terrorize citizens and the murder rate climbs. That "social progress" is a bowl of shit. I don't the arabs for wanting to be backwards and not wanting to eat shit.

The crime rate in the Western world is historically low, and it's low in Israel too. You bring up some red herrings that the vast majority of Westerners don't support, while neglecting to mention the litany of barbaric practices and attitudes which a significant number of citizens across the Arab world statistically do support. There is simply no comparison between the two things.

'social progress' is cancer tbh and 'human rights' is a meme
israel has a large tech and wealth advantage mostly due to receiving bazillions of aid from guilt tripped eurofags and AIPAC controlled america

Israel has a vast advantage in the realms of science and technology because it has a culture which values the things which lead to progress and innovation: like education, critical thinking, and resourcefulness. They don't need Western aid; they can more than pay for themselves, and if you look at the data, they mostly do.