Plagued Consoomers / Consoomer Culture - Because if it has a recogniseable brand on it, I’d buy it!

Since there's currently the Vinegar Syndrome Halfway to Black Friday sale I'm once again reminded about how crazy people go over slipcovers. You have people desperately rushing to the site at 12am to grab soon to be sold out limited editions, often for films that don't care about, just to "complete" their collection. I've heard that VS slipcovers are a lot nicer than the norm, but the amount that people will obsess over them is a little much to me (especially how much I've heard just slips go in the secondary market). People blow so much each sale and will even whinge or stress out about not getting a slipcover in time, with some people having no interest in even buying a film anymore because it doesn't come with a stupid slip.

It makes it easier for the people that don't care I guess, get your films for a bit cheaper and buying at your own pace while avoiding the autism storm cardboard covers cause.
 
Does the BTS meal count as rampant consumerism (of course it does)

It's literally just
  1. Large Fries
  2. Chicken Nuggets
  3. 2x random spicy sauces
And yet, if we hop on Twitter and do a search for BTS Meal we find the following
https://archive.md/ozXU7
https://archive.md/ozXU7
https://archive.md/MidzO
https://archive.md/jFnV0
https://archive.md/UDvFm
https://archive.md/DtW9b

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Does the BTS meal count as rampant consumerism (of course it does)

It's literally just
  1. Large Fries
  2. Chicken Nuggets
  3. 2x random spicy sauces
And yet, if we hop on Twitter and do a search for BTS Meal we find the following
https://archive.md/ozXU7
https://archive.md/ozXU7
https://archive.md/MidzO
https://archive.md/jFnV0
https://archive.md/UDvFm
https://archive.md/DtW9b

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I guess its recycling..
I don’t know what it is about K-pop, but they seem to attract even more blatant consumers than even hardcore Marvel fans. I understand liking bands and whatnot, but sometimes it just becomes too much. Getting a few band tees and maybe a poster or two is pretty normal, but saving wrappers from a meal the band promoted? That’s a special kind of dedicated consumer.
 
This is happening because the people interested in model kits just order them online. Better selection, convenient, sometimes better prices. This has been going on for about a decade.
Much of it was ironically driven by the hobby shops themselves. RC parts were much more profitable, and thus they would stock more of those at the expense of model railway stuff. That drome more modelers to buy from catalogs or online, and the cycle brutalized the hobby shops.
You're right in part, but something else happened before that - the generation that grew up building scale model train layouts, planes, etc started to die off. Particularly the model train types. I started noticing it in the late 90s, but it really accelerated after the early aughts. I don't think millennials ever cared about building things as much as boomers and older generations did. So now, those that are interested largely abandoned the already dying hobby shop supply stores.
The scourge of ready to run. RtR was a MAJOR push in the 90s, stuff that ostensibly you could just take out of the box, place on a layout, and be done with it. By the 2000s they had started putting decent couplers and wheels on the things so they could legit be run without modification, not always well, but still. Bonus: companies could charge nearly double for this RtR stuff, and people lapped it up.

You can see its effects in the manufacturers as well. There has been massive consolidation in the model railroad industry by the likes of athearn, bachmann, and atlas. Many of the smaller niche companies that were single man or family operations are dead or dying. NorthWestShortLine going under was a massive gut blow to those of us that like to repair decade old models instead of throwing them away.

And dont get me started on the "limited production run pre order" bullshit that's commonplace these days, or the inflating prices for low quality plastics where we used to have metal pieces that ran forever.
Anyone who is a millennial/Gen Z that builds model trains/ships/planes I really feel for them.
It's genuinely impossible to get the kind of cheap kits one used to learn on. Now kits are either pre assembled, babbies first playschool tier, or elite woodworker. Everything else is gone now. No skill involved, its all about spending $$$ to get what you want.

Of course rivet counters hardly helped matters, scaring young people away from model building for decades. When you have tons of coots who constantly criticize your work and berate you for any mistakes you make it's easy to just drop the hobby altogether. Thus these days you either see young kids or retirees with few in between.
 
I don’t know what it is about K-pop, but they seem to attract even more blatant consumers than even hardcore Marvel fans. I understand liking bands and whatnot, but sometimes it just becomes too much. Getting a few band tees and maybe a poster or two is pretty normal, but saving wrappers from a meal the band promoted? That’s a special kind of dedicated consumer.

I dont know what the proportion is, but I'm guessing that pop music already is a fandom/subculture that is designed over the decades to be addictive and consooming, but I'm pretty certain that the South Korean government is pushing hard to have their K-Pop stuff be a massive cultural export for their country, and they've basically industrialized the creation of boy and girl bands with extremely rabid and mad cult followings

Or I might be spouting bullshit. If someone can provide some facts for that, we'd appreciate it
 
Much of it was ironically driven by the hobby shops themselves. RC parts were much more profitable, and thus they would stock more of those at the expense of model railway stuff. That drome more modelers to buy from catalogs or online, and the cycle brutalized the hobby shops.

The scourge of ready to run. RtR was a MAJOR push in the 90s, stuff that ostensibly you could just take out of the box, place on a layout, and be done with it. By the 2000s they had started putting decent couplers and wheels on the things so they could legit be run without modification, not always well, but still. Bonus: companies could charge nearly double for this RtR stuff, and people lapped it up.

You can see its effects in the manufacturers as well. There has been massive consolidation in the model railroad industry by the likes of athearn, bachmann, and atlas. Many of the smaller niche companies that were single man or family operations are dead or dying. NorthWestShortLine going under was a massive gut blow to those of us that like to repair decade old models instead of throwing them away.

And dont get me started on the "limited production run pre order" bullshit that's commonplace these days, or the inflating prices for low quality plastics where we used to have metal pieces that ran forever.
I'm OK with RTR for many things (locomotives in particular, very few kits were made for them anyway), but it seems like it some other areas it suffered, particularly buildings. I am also not a fan of resin kits as a replacement for the old wooden ones for freight cars, they are messier/uglier to do kitbashes of.

I like many of the things the company has done (I love their F 1:20.3 push) , but I think the worst push was the RtR On30 craze that Bachmann was behind. IT RUNS ON HO TRACK! But it's not proper 3 foot gauge, instead the less common 30 inch gauge, and alot of it all looked cookie cutter. Then they chose strange prototypes. Anyway, it led to a sort of micro-consoomerist craze of sudden On30 modeling, before an obscure scale.

It just seems like the variety of what does get released in either brass or styrene or resin has really declined. You have to track down 40 year old brass models to properly model certain periods in many cases.
 
One other big reason for the decline of model trains is that fewer people own their own homes than they used to. More people are renters, and many don't have a basement or attic to devote to layout space. One source some friends and I use to pick up used brass trains and parts for cheap are estate sales - by and large, these deceased men's children aren't interested in the stuff, and are quick to sell them all at fire sale prices (often not knowing their value).
It's a hobby that requires money and space. It used to be more affordable.
The new pride flag they're trying to push looks fucking awful and I would have hoped it wouldn't have caught on because of it. Thing is way too busy compared to the simplistic older rainbow one plus the color clash is just awful.
I can't take credit for this meme, but I couldn't find the original so I had to recreate it from memory:
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I dont know what the proportion is, but I'm guessing that pop music already is a fandom/subculture that is designed over the decades to be addictive and consooming, but I'm pretty certain that the South Korean government is pushing hard to have their K-Pop stuff be a massive cultural export for their country, and they've basically industrialized the creation of boy and girl bands with extremely rabid and mad cult followings

Or I might be spouting bullshit. If someone can provide some facts for that, we'd appreciate it
You're completely correct, actually.
 
Does the BTS meal count as rampant consumerism (of course it does)

It's literally just
  1. Large Fries
  2. Chicken Nuggets
  3. 2x random spicy sauces
And yet, if we hop on Twitter and do a search for BTS Meal we find the following
https://archive.md/ozXU7
https://archive.md/ozXU7
https://archive.md/MidzO
https://archive.md/jFnV0
https://archive.md/UDvFm
https://archive.md/DtW9b

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I guess its recycling..
On the first day of this thing, there were some amusing posts from American BTS fans crying about not getting the purple packaging. Saw a few people melodramatically remind other fans to not be rude to the employees. Was too busy to screenshot and archive them, sadly.

The only noteworthy thing about this meal is the sauces, which aren't that exotic. You can get sweet chili sauce pretty much anywhere. The Cajun sauce is just hot mustard and peppers.
 
You're completely correct, actually.
Fucking hell, it seems like I actually underestimated how monstrous K-Pop is in its artificial veneer and addictiveness. Like, the Disney, Pokemon, Fashion stuff, etc. are also built for consumption, but compared to them, K=Pop really feels absolutely min-maxed to get as much people paying and consuming and dedicating phases of their lives to it.
 
I bet his mum had an elective cesarian booked on that date just to win that stupid contest. The odds are like a million to 1 that shit was spontaneous birth.

Also, I'm a bit disappointed. I came to say the antidote to Consoomer(tm) is likely to be adult responsibilities, chiefly children. I guess this couple didn't get the memo.

Children redirect your spending onto shit they need, and prevents you from spending all your hard earned pennies on stuff that isnt clothes, shoes, nappies ect for your child. Having children also shifts your focus off of you and onto caring for them and the shit you used to value doesn't feel important anymore compared to the massive responsibility that is a child. I suspect this is why consoomerism is pushed so hard on the young people, when they should be focusing on finding a mate, securing a home for themselves and starting a family, they are hyper focused on newest product coming out. Consoomerism is anti natalist propaganda.
Do you know many parents? Because this is an extremely optimistic take on parenthood. Parenthood does not magically transform people into strong-jawed alpha males and tradwives. They just move into a different consumer category. Why do you think most crappy branded stuff is still aimed at kids? The nostalgia market for adult nerds might be huge, but it is still dwarfed by the amount of crap Disney sells to actual children, by way of their parents. Parents these days still have a bunch of infantile hobbies as well. Not all of them, but it is definitely not something that changes just because someone popped out a kid.

ETA: Why on Earth would giant companies like Disney push "anti-natalist" propaganda when they literally depend on people popping out kids to sell the next round of diapers with Mickey Mouse on them and branded Disney Princess dresses and kids' movie franchises. There is no need to bring in spooky anti-natalist aims when everything they do can be explained by the fact that they just want fucking money.
 
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Do you know many parents? Because this is an extremely optimistic take on parenthood. Parenthood does not magically transform people into strong-jawed alpha males and tradwives. They just move into a different consumer category. Why do you think most crappy branded stuff is still aimed at kids? The nostalgia market for adult nerds might be huge, but it is still dwarfed by the amount of crap Disney sells to actual children, by way of their parents. Parents these days still have a bunch of infantile hobbies as well. Not all of them, but it is definitely not something that changes just because someone popped out a kid.

ETA: Why on Earth would giant companies like Disney push "anti-natalist" propaganda when they literally depend on people popping out kids to sell the next round of diapers with Mickey Mouse on them and branded Disney Princess dresses and kids' movie franchises. There is no need to bring in spooky anti-natalist aims when everything they do can be explained by the fact that they just want fucking money.
I can only speak on my own observations and experience, but you make a good point, that ultimately lots of people will buy a ton of crap fpr their kids. Also that not everyone has their priorities in order.

Kids kind of take up all your time though, so infantile hobbies are kind of off the table if you are at all being responsible, except in the evenings or when you can get a sitter. Youd have to be extremely neglectful to be indulging in this shit while your kids are awake.
 
I don’t know what it is about K-pop, but they seem to attract even more blatant consumers than even hardcore Marvel fans. I understand liking bands and whatnot, but sometimes it just becomes too much. Getting a few band tees and maybe a poster or two is pretty normal, but saving wrappers from a meal the band promoted? That’s a special kind of dedicated consumer.
There's also the fact that they'll release multiple copies of the same album, just with a different member of the group on the cover and maybe some stickers of them, where people will buy the same album over and over to get their favorites or all of the members (some groups being 10+ members).

Idol fans in Japan also buy insane amounts of new releases sometimes, but they at least have the reason that they're trying to win tickets to the groups next live and the more albums they buy (since they come with a lottery draw entry each) creates a better chance of winning. I've heard of people pooling their resources in album buying too. It's still quite insane, but at least they have a chance of getting something.
 
I agree it is neglectful, but unfortunately parent groups are full of mothers complaining that their husband spends 6 hours a night playing video games and ignores his kids. And those are the couples where at least one parent is responsible.

Then there are the people making and reposting cringe like this:

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The dad's literally on Reddit.
The harsh redpill is that Firefly, like every other Joss Whedon show, would have become worse as it went on. The TV show was great and I love it, however, but I'm not interested in getting any merch that wasn't the Blurays.

Since there's currently the Vinegar Syndrome Halfway to Black Friday sale I'm once again reminded about how crazy people go over slipcovers. You have people desperately rushing to the site at 12am to grab soon to be sold out limited editions, often for films that don't care about, just to "complete" their collection. I've heard that VS slipcovers are a lot nicer than the norm, but the amount that people will obsess over them is a little much to me (especially how much I've heard just slips go in the secondary market). People blow so much each sale and will even whinge or stress out about not getting a slipcover in time, with some people having no interest in even buying a film anymore because it doesn't come with a stupid slip.

It makes it easier for the people that don't care I guess, get your films for a bit cheaper and buying at your own pace while avoiding the autism storm cardboard covers cause.
Another harsh redpill is that in some cases the DVDs look better than the Blurays. Or, hell, even the VHS looks the same as the DVDs sometimes. (I am aware VHS collecting is a thing again, and I'm not immune to that.) I am of course speaking about the kind of shit that Vinegar Syndrome carries - I highly doubt somebody's going back and cleaning up the masters of movies which got famous because they got featured on Best of the Worst. If you're watching on a CRT, like you should (because I'm an elitist faggot), it all kind of looks the same. HD was a mistake, it's nothing but trash.
 
kids to sell the next round of diapers with Mickey Mouse on them and branded Disney Princess dresses and kids' movie franchises

The markup on branded diapers is insane. It's like 30 bucks for a box of pampers Disney diapers when generic Safeway of the same amount is like 6 bucks.

Some parenting forums I looked on swears by the expensive brands but I honestly cant see the difference after trying them out (on my kid, not me!).
 
The harsh redpill is that Firefly, like every other Joss Whedon show, would have become worse as it went on. The TV show was great and I love it, however, but I'm not interested in getting any merch that wasn't the Blurays.


Another harsh redpill is that in some cases the DVDs look better than the Blurays. Or, hell, even the VHS looks the same as the DVDs sometimes. (I am aware VHS collecting is a thing again, and I'm not immune to that.) I am of course speaking about the kind of shit that Vinegar Syndrome carries - I highly doubt somebody's going back and cleaning up the masters of movies which got famous because they got featured on Best of the Worst. If you're watching on a CRT, like you should (because I'm an elitist faggot), it all kind of looks the same. HD was a mistake, it's nothing but trash.
HD would be perfectly better if companies simply upscaled professionally or took better shots of existing old film for use in a rerelease but they've gotta re-edit and slap a bunch of filters over this shit too to simulate HDR or whatever.
 
Another harsh redpill is that in some cases the DVDs look better than the Blurays. Or, hell, even the VHS looks the same as the DVDs sometimes. (I am aware VHS collecting is a thing again, and I'm not immune to that.) I am of course speaking about the kind of shit that Vinegar Syndrome carries - I highly doubt somebody's going back and cleaning up the masters of movies which got famous because they got featured on Best of the Worst.
I mean, Vinegar Syndrome is known for doing all new restorations in house since they have the equipment for it. They get the negatives, if they can, and scan/restore it into 4k which is a lot better than it probably every looked besides when it first screened in theatres. It's more major label releases that are likely to look like straight garbage reusing old masters but slapping a shitty filter (like DNR Hell) or new packaging so they can sell it for a higher price. Boutique labels have a harder time offloading junk given the market they cater to, unless it's someone like Kino Lorber (sells lots of films for cheap with the trade off of being mostly old masters) because of the image they've built for themselves.

It's known with labels like Warner Archives that they will not release a film to blu-ray if they don't believe they could get a new restoration to look any better than if they put it out on DVD (usually due to missing or damaged negatives) unless technology advances enough or they stubble on new negatives in better condition.

As for Vinegar Syndrome's catalogue quality I can't really speak from any personal experience, though I was looking to try out some this sale, but it's firmly focused on c/b level films you'd often see in video rental stores. I'm just glad that films are being restored rather than lost to time, not really a stickler for a films quality since it doesn't impact me what-so-ever since I don't need to buy it. The fact that people are actually putting in effort to properly restore films many would consider garbage is something I'm all for, sometimes you're just in the mood to unwind with some dumbshit.
If you're watching on a CRT, like you should (because I'm an elitist faggot), it all kind of looks the same. HD was a mistake, it's nothing but trash.
Hard disagree, you're missing out on so much detail watching things that way especially if you're actually watching dinky vhs copies (usually made using muddy nth generation prints). Modern day technology has proved amazing for properly restoring older films to their original beauty that wasn't possible in the years they were putting out vhs. The ability to digitally splice together different prints/negatives and fix up physical deterioration using programs, along with just advancements in scanning tools helps so much. Not really interested in intentionally gimping my viewing experience, especially if a newer "HD" release gets to make use of original film negatives shot on glorious nitrate film.
 
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HD would be perfectly better if companies simply upscaled professionally or took better shots of existing old film for use in a rerelease but they've gotta re-edit and slap a bunch of filters over this shit too to simulate HDR or whatever.
This is why I align with all the newly appearing independent film restoration groups popping up over time as film scanners hit the resale market, if the studios themselves won't do anything like Hong Kong Rescue then someone else has to step in.
Still need to get in contact with the people supposedly restoring a 16mm print of Daicon IV's opening, I have a near flawless LP of Time that I can varispeed on the table itself and splice to match the original audio
 
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