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don't get the jab: small chance of getting coof symptoms

me not getting the jab: no known symptoms after a year

get the jab: higher chance of feeling sick afterwards?

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(yeah I don't think I'm getting the jab)



It's really creepy and Twilight Zone-ish - like the rest of this coronapanic insanity - how people are getting peer pressured into getting the jab. Especially with the politics and money behind it.
Wuflu is way better overall. I heard of a person who had no symptoms, I cherry picked a person who got the vaccine that died, China is easier to trust on this one bro. No point of looking into statistics just trust the plan its safe to get the disease. When has communism ever lied.
 
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I'm sure a non fat, fully vaccinated 54 year old died of Covid.

Maybe he had actual AIDS or liver cancer but I'm pressing X to doubt.


So, because my take was that there’s no way. There was no way that we would reasonably have good, well-vetted COVID-19 vaccines available now and available within a year from the beginning of the pandemic.

And that’s because traditionally vaccines took about 10 years to traverse the clinical trial pipeline. And in fact, the previous record was, and I have it in quotes now, because now you might argue, it’s not as astounding, but it was an astounding four years. And that was by the company Merck. And that was for an Ebola vaccine.

And so, but what I do want to point out is for those of us who were asked to comment on what the typical timeline is yes, we were way off in terms of how quickly these vaccines have now been rolled out.

But this is because these COVID-19 vaccines have reached the public rollout phase by, and I’ll say it in quotes, “cutting corners”. And by cutting corners, I’m not implying that people were skipping key steps, although honestly, there could be some potential questions around that.


And it wasn’t indicated in that publication, right? So they never disclosed that the numbers of suspected, but unconfirmed cases of COVID-19 were excluded from their calculation of efficacy.


Now. So what I mean is their 95% effectiveness was calculated based on 170 people, volunteers in their trial, naturally acquiring COVID-19. And it turned out that just a handful of those that got COVID-19 were in the vaccinated group.

The majority were in the unvaccinated group, that’s where they got this 95% effectiveness, right? So 95% of the time people would, that were vaccinated, 95% of them would not get COVID-19.

However, so that was 170 people. However, they failed to disclose that there were thousands who were excluded from this efficacy calculation. And that’s because for some reason we still don’t know why they were uncomfirmed. As you can see, there were suspected, but unconfirmed.

Read the whole thing,it's fucking draw dropping.

The vaccines have not undergone proper clinical trials.

The trials were skewed to exclude likely positive subjects.

The vaccines are non sterilizing and are probably useless at inoculating recipients.

I could go on and mention other data emerging showing that the pathogenic S-protein accumulating in women's ovaries and causing systemic inflammation, but you don't even have to bother with that, the vaccines don't fucking work so even if you're shit scared of the coof there's no point to them.
 

That was a really interesting article. I had to skim a few bits for length but it answers the question I asked of you last week which was what difference does it make whether you get immunity from the actual virus or from the vaccine. My question was why if in both cases your immune system learns to recognise the spike protein and attack the virus that has it, aren't the immunities the same. The answer from this interview is that when exposed to the actual virus the immune system learns to recognize it by multiple attributes and with the vaccine it learns only the spike protein. And this is a problem because mutations will eventually lead to the spike protein becoming unrecognizable by the immune system whilst the virus mutating to change all the things a natural immune response can recognize (without losing fitness) is very low.
 
That was a really interesting article. I had to skim a few bits for length but it answers the question I asked of you last week which was what difference does it make whether you get immunity from the actual virus or from the vaccine. My question was why if in both cases your immune system learns to recognise the spike protein and attack the virus that has it, aren't the immunities the same. The answer from this interview is that when exposed to the actual virus the immune system learns to recognize it by multiple attributes and with the vaccine it learns only the spike protein. And this is a problem because mutations will eventually lead to the spike protein becoming unrecognizable by the immune system whilst the virus mutating to change all the things a natural immune response can recognize (without losing fitness) is very low.
Nucleocapsid recognition is vital in providing protection. In other words due to the short term duration of antibody protection inherent in all Coronaviruses the T-cell mediated immune response is the only thing that really matters. If this wasn't the case the common cold wouldn't be a thing.

Inoculating against the spike protein is likely a dead end and at worst will cause damage to susceptible individuals by allowing the systemic circulation of what is known to be a pathogenic substance.

Real time data will tell the story, and we'll be due for another wave of Covid infections by next winter. Assuming that is the vaccines themselves don't challenge the virus to mutate in unforeseen ways, in which case it will be sooner.
 
I think the precedents set are worrisome. They have basically expanded upon the Trump era online censorship. With the "fake news", "alternate facts" and "muh trolls" narratives now they can just fact check anything, they don't even need a political excuse to do so.

My main problem is that if you give them an opportunity to ban... "antiscience" and "fake news", then you can get any policy, product or opinion defended just by hiring some labcoat or jurno saying that the science/journalism is settled, product/policy/opinion is a true and honest fact. Boom, you can delete any dissenting opinion and person who doesn't believe or worse, questions it.

Let's face it, vaccines are products made to improve a bottom line and make shareholders happy. Now we have state, mainstream and social media colluding, basically shilling for products and doing free marketing for them from the taxpayers' money. In fact, forcing people to use those products. Not to mention sometimes silencing consumer feedback as well!
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The Zune was based, had one and the thing was Nokia tier indestructible. Went through the wash multiple times, fell down into the creek at my ranch, banged against all kindsa shit, still worked. Zune HD still has the best screen I've seen on a device to this date. Even if he brought it back he's still a fraud asshole though.
 
The Zune was based, had one and the thing was Nokia tier indestructible. Went through the wash multiple times, fell down into the creek at my ranch, banged against all kindsa shit, still worked. Zune HD still has the best screen I've seen on a device to this date. Even if he brought it back he's still a fraud asshole though.
Personally I support anything that puts some diversity in the tech market. I am tired of everything just being either a monopoly or duopoly.
 
Following my sperg last night I have awoken in clown world 2021 to see the incredibly dangerous 3rd wave is truly upon us. The number of dead are...err... ONE....and there are minus 21 in hospital really show the trend is definitely on the up. It is all over.

Seriously; how the fuck can anyone take the media seriously anymore when headlines say "3rd Wave of new Variant coming - Delay Hugging" when things are clearly getting better and they have the numbers in the same article?!? . The trick is not to put the positives in the headline or the part that takes the first 15 seconds to read.

Have had a jolly good larf at the WHO. The variants have been renamed, using the Greek alphabet, to avoid stigmas, and they go and name the UK (kent) variant 'Alpha' . If this re-naming is supposed to ease the minds of pathetic woke types then how are they going to deal with this new empire that has been created with white at the top?

It is all so fucking stupid. Yes, use the greek alphabet and have Alpha, Beta and gamma but change the variants behind those names depending on transmissability. All i have heard is people saying "covid", anyway. One word covers it all.

It all means the same at the end of the day as IRL the vast majority is going to say, " i have the *insert greek here* variant" and they will asked, " sorry, where does that come from" and the reply will be, " that dirty shit hole - fucking India".
 
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All I can picture is some green haired fat SJW of indeterminate gender who mods Twitter seeing this and saying "NOT ON MY WATCH, DRUMPFTARD!" and smugly mashing the ban button, secure in the idea that modsplaining to the inventor of mRNA technology is somehow helping stop racism.
 
So my work tells me no safety steps were skipped in creating this vaccine.
That's just simply untrue.

I'm sure a lot of concentrated effort been put into testing them, on a much more concentrated basis than the usual process. But no amount of effort can replace time. They can make assurances that there won't be any long term health effects, but they do not know that. The toxic effects of asbestos weren't uncovered until 30 years after it began being used on a large scale. In the Vietnam war, soldiers were told that Agent Orange and the other Rainbow defoliants were harmless, but the following decades showed the horrific effects it had on the populace that was exposed to it.

The people pushing how safe these vaccines are fall into two camps: people who stand to make money from the vaccine and people who are desperate for the covid bullshit to end but can't get over their own fears and need a supplicant to allow them to stop being scared over a weak virus. Neither of them really give a shit if it's actually safe in the long term.

If you are old enough or have enough secondary conditions that you actually have a legit risk of getting fucked up by covid, then it's probably worth it to get the vaccine. But the push to vaccinate everyone, especially the younger people in good health is fucking retarded. Given that there are a lot of countries in the world where the at risk population isn't vaccinated yet, it seems fucking wasteful to be going to such lengths to give the vaccine to people who absolutely don't need it. Like California having that lottery to entice people to take the vaccine. It's disgusting. If you're a bleeding heart liberal, how can you justify using money to entice people who have such low risk to covid, when those doses could instead be sent to countries that don't even have doses to inoculate high risk 60+ year olds?
 
Youtube keep double down by removing that video about Ivermectin to use against corona-chan. I guess it would be a waste of time telling them they created a Streisand effect.

One of the most disappointing things I hear from people I like and respect is that they’ve received the Covid-19 “vaccine.” I’ve been scratching my head so often lately my wife bought me dandruff shampoo. The cognitive dissonance on display is shocking as people I know who do not trust government, who allegedly read up on the many questionable characteristics and statistics associated with the “vaccines,” still rushed to get their jabs.

As I researched to determine if this is an insurmountable “strong delusion” placed over the masses or if it’s just a man-made conspiracy, I came across a video that called out the propaganda being employed to promote the vaccines. But promoting the vaccines is one thing. “Debunking” effective early treatments of the disease, including Ivermectin, goes far beyond simply promoting vaccines. It’s about misleading people into believing the only way they can survive the pandemic is if they inject experimental drugs into their body.

That video has since been removed from YouTube for violating “Community Guidelines.”

The video was going viral, though there’s no telling just how viral it went because by the time I was able to check on it from a news report (below) by Art Moore at WND, the video had been removed. According to the Facebook post by Frontline Covid-19 Critical Care Alliance, “Dr. Pierre Kory, Chief Medical Officer of the FLCCC Alliance, discusses the ways that public health agencies are manipulating scientific data on {the “I” medicine} for COVID-19 in order to sow uncertainty about it— and why they are doing it.”
 
In order to save face and pretend the covid overreaction was totally the right thing to do we need to continue lockdowns and masks and rushing vaccines through whenever there is a new strain or virus scare.

Breaking news: China reports human case of H10N3 bird flu, a possible first

I'm fine with that as long as it only happens in globohomo liberal areas of the world/states. Will be an interesting time to live where the dominant political ideology in your area determines if you can live normally or not. Oh well, choose your location carefully.

Or now that we don't need to oust Orange Man Bad will viruses go back to being sensationalist news headlines only?
 
It's really creepy and Twilight Zone-ish - like the rest of this coronapanic insanity - how people are getting peer pressured into getting the jab. Especially with the politics and money behind it.

one of the things that bothers me the most about this is my teenage child absolutely does not want to get it. He took it upon himself to research (not believe in msm) and he has decided it’s not worth it, however all his friends have been drinking the koolaid and are trying to peer pressure him into doing it. I know he doesn’t care per se, but it’s heartbreaking watching kids be indoctrinated by their liberal cuck parents to this point. My biggest fear is they won’t be allowed to hang out together, these have been his friends since kindergarten
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Please don’t put all leafs in the gay, based, globohomo, bug man bucket. I agree the one that shall not be mentioned should be ignored, but don’t ignore all of us please no bully.
 
One of the more funnier things that have appeared during the Coof pandemic is the "prevention paradox". Every time a prediction has fallen flat it has been said "Yeah, because we did stuff against it, it's called 'prevention paradox', educate yourself, NAZI".
Even with our federal emergency brake that apparently worked even on neighbouring countries and much faster than ever possible the Branch Covidians claim it's "prevention paradox" because simply because people talked about stuff it caused people to be more careful.
The absence of evidence is now proof.

One of the more disturbing things is how people have been losing their memory.
Now one thing the Branch Covidians pride themselves in is in how smart they are because they listen to THE SCIENCE. So they know fancy complicated concepts like exponential growth (as in "helloooo exponential growth maybe you've heard of it???") and so on.
So recently it was announced that some place in Australia was going back into lockdown because there were like 20 cases or something, which would have been an incidence per 100k of like 0.3 or something. Of course the german Branch Covidians saw that as a completely reasonable thing to do, and one was all "they did it because the cases doubled within a day. Such clear, scientific reporting, arguing with exponential growth. Why don't we have that? *sob*".
The point here is that until May 2020 the main numbers that were thrown around were the reproduction number and the doubling time. Only when it turned out that those numbers didn't really work well enough to strike fear into the hearts of people (doubling time becomes pretty long pretty quick, losing impact, and the r-value never really grew beyond 1.5, so also not very scary), so the incidence per 100k value was used instead because people can't handle big numbers.
I seriously think that's the main reason why suddenly the incidence per 100k people was used. The r-value and doubling times are small numbers within the grasp of the average dumbass. Worse, they're abstract and not directly related to people. But the incidence, now that that's a good number. So many new infections! The incidence is right at the egde of the amount that people can imagine but also immediately recognize as "a lot". But it's also related to a number that people can't imagine in their heads, so the number becomes much more scary because people can't really relate to it.
It is a value that will hardly ever go to zero (even in summer you can always find someone who got a cold, and the Coof isn't different in that), it understandable yet related to something dreadfully abstract. It's the perfect panic number.
 
Thanks for keeping us updated, you should make a new post after a certain amount of time, I forget to check your edits. I couldn't help but be reminded of a horror movie I saw, there was a specific scene where the woman was undergoing some "changes" after "mating" with an alien creature, and mentions she's soooo hungry......I may have been picturing your situation like that :lit:. It's a good scene for a laugh.

Hey, I remember that movie! That's kinda what I felt like. lol I kept trying to eat raw vegetables and fruit to fill up but even with that, my body was like, "You sure you don't want to make meatloaf and mashed potatoes at 2am? Just for yourself? C'mon!" and I had to tell it no, for I didn't want to look like that lady. (...I wonder what Torrid size she wears?)
 
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