Intimacy in Current Year

[RollerGator]

You just need to find a woman who's attracted to autistic walls of text.

 

[RadicalCentrist]

(imagine someone telling you they love you and want to have your kids but then they break up with you a couple months later because they decided from the start to do so once they did a specific thing that would theoretically help them, and you were pushing them to not put that thing off without knowing this because you were concerned about them).

What?

Explain

 

[Bunny Tracks]

Guys, women aren't fucking you because they know you're autistic.

It's not feminism, SJWs, minorities, the jews, or whatever.

It's because you're autistic and women can tell right away that you are.

That's literally it.

 

[RadicalCentrist]

Guys, women aren't fucking you because they know you're autistic.

It's not feminism, SJWs, minorities, the jews, or whatever.

It's because you're autistic and women can tell right away that you are.

That's literally it.

You dropped this, queen

 

[Lemmingwise]

Guys, women aren't fucking you because they know you're autistic.

It's not feminism, SJWs, minorities, the jews, or whatever.

It's because you're autistic and women can tell right away that you are.

That's literally it.

He's talking about marriage and marriage is down across the board.

Yes, there are still people getting married but it has been on a decline for a long time.

So no his problem isn't just autism, there is also a societal problem.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

He's talking about marriage and marriage is down across the board.

Yes, there are still people getting married but it has been on a decline for a long time.

So no his problem isn't just autism, there is also a societal problem.

It's only going down because people don't have to be married anymore. That's it. That's not a bad thing.

 

[Lemmingwise]

It's only going down because people don't have to be married anymore. That's it. That's not a bad thing.

It's bad for children, meaning it's bad for the future.

 

[Old Sun World]

It's bad for children, meaning it's bad for the future.

You assume any of these city folk and internet dwellers care about the future.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

It's bad for children, meaning it's bad for the future.

An unhappy marriage is just as bad if not worse than not being married at all when it comes to being raising kids.

Look, I understand where you're coming from, but I think a lot of people need to accept that times have changed, and that they have to change with them. People don't have to get married simply because society isn't forcing them to anymore. That, and because they can be a lot smarter about how, when, and who they start a family with.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Guys, women aren't fucking you because they know you're autistic.

I doubt they can be as autistic as someone who failed to grasp that 1) this is a thread about marriage (not "fucking"), and 2) it was spawned by contemplation of a potentially unique disconnect with the concept despite a desire for it.

What?

Explain

Therapy. She wanted therapy from a specific therapist she trusted, and in that therapy she would address-- among other things-- the prospect of properly dating me and whatever reservations she had. From the way she made it sound, though, it sounds less like she did that and more like she got the therapist to reaffirm what she already intended without any further probing of whatever reservations she had that she supposedly couldn't put words to.

And to be clear-- she did say that she intended to break up at a set point to begin with. Her demeanor (in general) made me question whether she actually thought that or she had so little sense of agency that she just appropriated the narrative I made while trying to make sense of matters, but on the other hand.

 

[Lemmingwise]

An unhappy marriage is just as bad if not worse than not being married at all when it comes to being raising kids.

Look, I understand where you're coming from, but I think a lot of people need to accept that times have changed, and that they have to change with them. People don't have to get married simply because society isn't forcing them to anymore.

I don't think an unhappy marriage is worse than divorced parents. I think that is an easy excuse that people use to succumb to temptation to give up.

An unhappy marriage is not without its fallout, but it's generally worse for divorce and the amount of extra resources it costs to have 2 households instead of one has a tremendous impact.

I don't think there is much evidence to suggest that an unhappy divorce works better for children than an unhappy marriage.

If people used to get forced to get married, now they're forced to not get married. There are such risks for men that it is barely worth it; after divorce the man has to continue to supply what the marriage contract itself was supposedly about. And even without getting married there is that same transfer of resources, as men on average pay taxes over their lifetime whereas as women over a lifetime receive more resources than they pay into the state.

So yes, I agree that people aren't forced to get married anymore and instead mostly forced to not get married and it is to detriment to the children.

That, and because they can be a lot smarter about how, when, and who they start a family with.

Considering people are no longer having children in their most healthy and fertile years but instead prerty much exclusively ehen the risk for autism and other defects has significantly increased (or have even missed the time window entirely), I'd say people are a lot dumber about their choices of when they're starting families.

 

[Sealbaby]

I think being autistically straight is harder than being straightforwardly gay, especially if you're male.

I think the best bet for autistic males is to go (either online or in real life) where there is female autism, hide your power level, and keep feelers out for autistic women who are also hiding their power level.

Women are dumb and their professed ideas are merely social affectations. Just find a fat woman, ignore everything she says because it doesn't matter, and breed her.

Happy Pride; here's your complementary aro-ace flag button and choice of fursona; don't let the dommes hit you too hard on the way out

 

[VIPPER?]

Intimacy means sharing, information is power, etc. No one wants to be dating when everyone you meet is fairly likely to fuck you over in some way as soon as you betray an intimate detail they can use as a stepping stone in the ol' crab bucket.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Considering people are no longer having children in their most healthy and fertile years but instead prerty much exclusively ehen the risk for autism and other defects has significantly increased (or have even missed the time window entirely), I'd say people are a lot dumber about their choices of when they're starting families.

Because everyone (women especially) is now expected to go to college up until you're like 25 or so just to even be able to land a decent-paying job that can support a family now that we've become more industrialized and moved away from life skills like farming. By the time you even start looking for a mate whether you made a bunch of money or not, the eggs have been halved and the sperm count has lowered.

There's also some folks who enter the dating scene later or end up marrying later for various reasons, which also raises the risk. It's a societal problem it itself caused before most (if not all) of us were ever even conceived.

 

[DeAtH]

I'd say the idea of marriage is being taken less seriously and most people are doing the same thing. Don't take it out of context, what I am simply saying is that you should go forth into it once you actually know that the other person is serious. Never go into it if you don't know the other person for who they are. So technically, I do feel the same way about that and people don't know how to be truthful with each other anymore which is quite funny. Don't waste too much time on it bro, try and focus on things that help improve yourself. Find what you want but in the meantime, only small portions should be focused on marriage and well, dating. So therefore, it does seem quite foreign to me as well because of the listed reasons that I said before.

 

[SalmaoneSlaamper]

The internet is a false reality it is hard not to imagine it as everything there is but I personally believe there will be someone who is normal enough or someone like me as long as I keep looking.

 

[okwhyamidoingthis]

On the whole my experience is that women don't really know what they're saying on a lot of subjects. That is fine, neither do I. But that includes when they talk about what they like, what they don't like and what their limits are. It's never without risk of course so heed this advice at your own peril. But I don't think any of the women I've taken to bed could accurately tell me what they like and what they don't. I'm not proud of it, but it's not a small sample size.

That happens because they live in cognitive dissonance since the sixties: they feel something and are something they are ashamed of being, and this shame didn't come from men, but from other women and institutions (even more from psychology then the labor market, if you consider that it replaced religion in telling people what's good for them - think about the runaway wives of the 70s, women who were out of labor market and then became nuts after the social climate drastically changed).

A bunch of women want to return to what's truth about them, but they were convinced it is this precise truth that is harmful. The core of what they are is their problem - according to the leaders of every area imaginable. They must move around their world in a silent but complete war at themselves or keep the mask on and suffer alone their whole life. The mere considering of change is rapidly considered a risk if a woman hasn't had a healthy father figure - and they are reminded of this risk by the culture every second. Men are dangerous, men are the enemy, men have it easier - that works pretty well in shutting down a girl, convincing her that submission is something to be ashamed of, and teaching her to have an eternal smirk and a smarty ass quick answer on her lips so she masks her vulnerability. On the other hand, it does nothing to thots, who either weaponize/sell their sex or sell the trad scam for a bunch of disilluded men - who have no resemblance of real feminity, and therefore fall for its performance by beings completely devoid of gentleness, openess, warmth and love.

To meet a girl nowadays is to meet a being in denial (as hords of men claim to be true and honest women insted of them). Act accordingly.

And by act accordingly, I mean:
- You can resent her. You can resent the cynicism and dwelve in that eerie and angry feeling they can bring up when they are acting petty or masculine. You can measure forces with her and you will win because you are a man. You can be truly violent, in words or actions, in a way she can't and she knows. Even e-whores evoque the same feelings of anger: hordes of men demand all they have for a pretty cheap price, she gives it thinking she's so smart and has it so easy, but still both sides can't understand why they hate each other so deeply and so rightfully. Lots of men are taking this road and I believe everyone has been through it at least for a period. It is not only pointless, but it is exhausting.

- You can act as a leader. That means you know the truth. You know yourself and you don't fall for their words. Women's problem is that they learned to lie better and better until men believed they were fine with their choices. This fine lying shows in our human senses being lost, substituted by a never ending stream of words and discussions. Most relationships are based on each sex working hard to make the other part believe what they want them to believe about oneself. Forget words. It's not that they are evil - look at how, for millenia, men have put up a face and went on. That's just simply human nature when you feel like there is no better perspective and you have no faith (in a supernatural power or in methaphysical laws that emphasize your posture brings a reaction on material level or, more importantly, in the future).

Go for what you see and feel about them. Don't ignore it. Do not ignore what she evokes on you. If you do, you're actually giving up masculinity, killing it, in favor of this modern bullshit where everybody is their head ("and therefore if I am an attack hellicopter in my head, then that's true" - that's were it got us). She will slip many, many times. Keep your ears open and don't miss an opportunity to send her the message that you know the truth. Marie von Franz has a lot written about animus problems in women and how they repel men (the feminist has an animus problem, and the trad whore, a possesion by the anima ).

Once, a girl I knew was hitting one of my friend and she thought that pretending to be sex crazed was something irresistible. She made some jokes about being a whore. She betrayed herself many, many times because they were both nerds, she was an statician and he was a historian. Tired of that shit, he once replied her: 'I know you're not. Don't play this part with me. I know you feel like you have to, but you don't. Please, stop this'. She was mortified - rightfully so. I looked at the guy like 'How can this nerd do this? How does he feel so free to unmask her and that works so fine and the man is completely socially inept?' That's the power of being faithfull to the truth: going through the harsness truth entails is what makes a leader. Risking what you have now (most of the times you have nothing but the possibility of having makes you comply) for what's true pays.

They want safety - but to offer them this safety, men have to pass through their lies. Being a leader is being the first to sacrifice confort for what's important: everybody thinks it will fail, but it doesn't and that's when you gain their respect and they fall for you (and follow you).

Have no illusions: the social climate will not change if men don't change because men are, by nature, leaders. Women are followers - and even more so if they believe to be the leaders. Toughness starts inside a man, by deciding not to be a part of lies - may these lies be a cute manipulative but harmless girl, or becoming a nihilist and hating yourself for wanting human contact (as women have become), no matter how nice they look. It seems dangerous and it seems like you will lose everything (other men will be the first to discourage you - crab bucket) but that's the opposite: it's the beginning of freedom.

Oliver Mellors, from Lady Chatterley's Lover, is a good example of what I'm talking about. Don't forget to read the posface.
Sorry for enormous post. Took me years to learn it.

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

I see a lot of attractive women on Tinder age 24-28 here who straight up goes "Looking for someone to start family with". Might be an American issue with all your woke shit that slowly seeps into first-world Europe.

 

[Car Won't Crank]

I see a lot of attractive women on Tinder age 24-28 here who straight up goes "Looking for someone to start family with". Might be an American issue with all your woke shit that slowly seeps into first-world Europe.

There are profiles like that here in the US too, but the majority of those women are spent towels who have extra baggage in the form of kids from previous relationship, major attitude issues, and an active proponents of the woke ideologies. Essentially those "looking to start a family" profiles have been around the block several times among many other red flags.

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

That happens because they live in cognitive dissonance since the sixties: they feel something and are something they are ashamed of being, and this shame didn't come from men, but from other women and institutions (even more from psychology then the labor market, if you consider that it replaced religion in telling people what's good for them - think about the runaway wives of the 70s, women who were out of labor market and then became nuts after the social climate drastically changed).

A bunch of women want to return to what's truth about them, but they were convinced it is this precise truth that is harmful. The core of what they are is their problem - according to the leaders of every area imaginable. They must move around their world in a silent but complete war at themselves or keep the mask on and suffer alone their whole life. The mere considering of change is rapidly considered a risk if a woman hasn't had a healthy father figure - and they are reminded of this risk by the culture every second. Men are dangerous, men are the enemy, men have it easier - that works pretty well in shutting down a girl, convincing her that submission is something to be ashamed of, and teaching her to have an eternal smirk and a smarty ass quick answer on her lips so she masks her vulnerability. On the other hand, it does nothing to thots, who either weaponize/sell their sex or sell the trad scam for a bunch of disilluded men - who have no resemblance of real feminity, and therefore fall for its performance by beings completely devoid of gentleness, openess, warmth and love.

To meet a girl nowadays is to meet a being in denial (as hords of men claim to be true and honest women insted of them). Act accordingly.

And by act accordingly, I mean:
- You can resent her. You can resent the cynicism and dwelve in that eerie and angry feeling they can bring up when they are acting petty or masculine. You can measure forces with her and you will win because you are a man. You can be truly violent, in words or actions, in a way she can't and she knows. Even e-whores evoque the same feelings of anger: hordes of men demand all they have for a pretty cheap price, she gives it thinking she's so smart and has it so easy, but still both sides can't understand why they hate each other so deeply and so rightfully. Lots of men are taking this road and I believe everyone has been through it at least for a period. It is not only pointless, but it is exhausting.

- You can act as a leader. That means you know the truth. You know yourself and you don't fall for their words. Women's problem is that they learned to lie better and better until men believed they were fine with their choices. This fine lying shows in our human senses being lost, substituted by a never ending stream of words and discussions. Most relationships are based on each sex working hard to make the other part believe what they want them to believe about oneself. Forget words. It's not that they are evil - look at how, for millenia, men have put up a face and went on. That's just simply human nature when you feel like there is no better perspective and you have no faith (in a supernatural power or in methaphysical laws that emphasize your posture brings a reaction on material level or, more importantly, in the future).

Go for what you see and feel about them. Don't ignore it. Do not ignore what she evokes on you. If you do, you're actually giving up masculinity, killing it, in favor of this modern bullshit where everybody is their head ("and therefore if I am an attack hellicopter in my head, then that's true" - that's were it got us). She will slip many, many times. Keep your ears open and don't miss an opportunity to send her the message that you know the truth. Marie von Franz has a lot written about animus problems in women and how they repel men (the feminist has an animus problem, and the trad whore, a possesion by the anima ).

Once, a girl I knew was hitting one of my friend and she thought that pretending to be sex crazed was something irresistible. She made some jokes about being a whore. She betrayed herself many, many times because they were both nerds, she was an statician and he was a historian. Tired of that shit, he once replied her: 'I know you're not. Don't play this part with me. I know you feel like you have to, but you don't. Please, stop this'. She was mortified - rightfully so. I looked at the guy like 'How can this nerd do this? How does he feel so free to unmask her and that works so fine and the man is completely socially inept?' That's the power of being faithfull to the truth: going through the harsness truth entails is what makes a leader. Risking what you have now (most of the times you have nothing but the possibility of having makes you comply) for what's true pays.

They want safety - but to offer them this safety, men have to pass through their lies. Being a leader is being the first to sacrifice confort for what's important: everybody thinks it will fail, but it doesn't and that's when you gain their respect and they fall for you (and follow you).

Have no illusions: the social climate will not change if men don't change because men are, by nature, leaders. Women are followers - and even more so if they believe to be the leaders. Toughness starts inside a man, by deciding not to be a part of lies - may these lies be a cute manipulative but harmless girl, or becoming a nihilist and hating yourself for wanting human contact (as women have become), no matter how nice they look. It seems dangerous and it seems like you will lose everything (other men will be the first to discourage you - crab bucket) but that's the opposite: it's the beginning of freedom.

Oliver Mellors, from Lady Chatterley's Lover, is a good example of what I'm talking about. Don't forget to read the posface.
Sorry for enormous post. Took me years to learn it.

TL;DR: MGTOW is fake and gay.

As a note of my own, theres too much of a focus on marriage and companionship as a material pleasure but nobody ever acknowledges the spiritual side to it. Mating and courtship are things which transcend mankind itself and for all its pain, it can only strengthen you with the right mindset. It's all a kind of sport in that context where you tease out your emotions and pour the best and most honest parts of your being into it without worrying about failure or success. People obsess too much over the result and cripple themselves accordingly when the process is the result.