Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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Reddit says it's all about source control so it still works.
Masks are useless at source control outside of hospitals , at least in the ones that enact very strict protocols around their use and good training in their application and disposal.

Again this is so non controversial I'm stupefied that there are retards who will argue about it.

For example N95 respirators are not worn with exhalation valves in hospital settings, even though this makes them more comfortable and more effective in protecting the wearer, due to the risk that the wearer will infect someone else. However to make non valved masks viable a complicated process has to be followed including measuring the face for sizing and putting the wearer through a negative pressure fit check to ensure a good seal. Even then the respirators are only rated for a very short time before they need to be changed, and they definitely should be changed between care events (eg going from patient to patient). And if you're doing that correctly it will be a 2 person job, one to remove their own PPE in the correct fashion and one to check they aren't fucking up.

Honest to God people have no idea what a massive and complex job it is in preventing cross transmission, and that's in highly controlled environments like hospitals. People looking at that and thinking "well I'll wear my cloth mask with the colorful design on it that I haven't washed in a week, that will protect my mee maw". Fuck me.
 
Someone has compiled a large, brutal takedown of Peter Daszak himself.



A long but very informative read.
 
It enrages me. I just want to see a doctor who is transparent on MsM. Barring that, a news program that actually reports NEWS, not just govt propaganda.
Over here you get the shifting narrative of the day, plus maybe something about the second shoah on January 6th or other ebil notsee shit. But the thing that really grinds my gears is the amount of "stories" that are blatant ads or "LoOk At ThIs QuIrKy #ReLaTaBlE tIkToK!!"
 
I think it's already mentionned but that SOB Fauxi or Fraudci have more hidden skeletons in his closet.

Nearly two decades ago, a physician called into C-SPAN and asked Dr. Anthony Fauci’s to resign, insisting that during his tenure as National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease Director, America’s”ability to control infectious diseases hasn’t improved but, in fact, worsened.”

Described as a physician from Durham, North Carolina, the caller made the prophetic remarks during an April 14th, 2003 Open Phones program focusing on the “source of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) and efforts to combat the disease” amidst an epidemic in Hong Kong.


The caller begins by outlining Fauci’s inability to convey public health messages to Americans:

“You’ve been at the NIH a pretty long time, and it seems to me that during your tenure, our ability to control infectious diseases hasn’t improved but, in fact, worsened. And even basic health tips such as you can’t use antibiotics to treat viral infections have not been adequately communicated to the public because, for instance, people will come in demanding an antibiotic for a common cold or any other viral infection which has certainly served to create more resistant strains. Not saying that this has anything to do with this particular SARS epidemic.”

“But don’t you think it’s time you step down and let someone else who has a more effective message,” she concludes.

“Actually, no,” Fauci responds before laughing.
 
Someone has compiled a large, brutal takedown of Peter Daszak himself.



A long but very informative read.
I've been reading up on the amount of money being funneled into Wuhan, it's mind blowing.

The Pentagon chipped in $39 million to the WIV


The NIH funnelled $3.7 million through Ecohealth to WIV

Shit even the CSRIO in Australia gave $2 million and it turns out the two leads in the Chinese lab were both trained by them


This is what we know so far, I expect a lot more will drop in the coming days and weeks

So again why the fuck were western governments funding a hostile power's bio weapons research effort?

The Wuhan Institute of Virology is a People's Liberation Army Facility and we gave them tens of millions of dollars to help build Covid.
 
This is an extremely accurate representation of how SARS-CoV-2's Spike protein works and how the virion fuses to a cell. In the past couple decades, they've gotten very good at producing these kinds of visualizations of protein activity using molecular dynamics simulations:


SARS-CoV-2 Spike doesn't just use furin to cleave it. It also needs TMPRSS2 (transmembrane protease, serine 2) to activate the Spike.


There is a specific drug that inhibits TMPRSS2 activity called Camostat that was developed in Japan as a treatment for pancreatitis (since TMPRSS2 has various other purposes in the body, as well). They were considering repurposing it as an antiviral for COVID-19, but information on this has petered out. Where are the human trials?



Still ongoing, apparently.

There's something that they don't mention in the video, there. The E protein of coronaviruses acts as a calcium ion channel. See all those little yellow proteins migrating onto the cell's membrane as the virus fuses with the cell? Those are the virus's own surface proteins. Viroporins are a specific kind of protein that viruses use to make cells permeable for specific substances required by the virus's life cycle. The E protein acts as one such viroporin. It behaves like a gateway, helping to draw calcium through the otherwise impermeable cell membrane and into the cell.

This intracellular calcium rise can greatly accelerate oxidative stress. Remember all the stuff I said about superoxide, hydrogen peroxide, hypochlorous acid, and hydroxyl radicals, earlier?


The family of NADPH oxidases (NOXes) has been considered unique in that their sole function is to generate superoxide or hydrogen peroxide, respectively, and that they are responsive to receptor stimulation [115,9]. Up to date, this family comprises 7 members, which differ in their catalytic subunits as well as in the requirement of regulatory proteins. The initially identified NADPH oxidase contains the NOX2 core unit, which builds together with the p22phox subunit the cytochrome b558. It is also known as the “respiratory burst” enzyme of neutrophils and is a part of the innate immune response. Upon binding of particles, bacteria, fungi or soluble inflammatory mediators to specific receptors on the neutrophil cell surface, NOX2 is activated and mediates release of large amounts of ROS [108]. This activation is regulated by cytosolic subunits p47phox, p67phox, p40phox and the Rac GTPase, which need to be phosphorylated by calcium activated protein kinase C (PKC) in order to translocate to the plasma membrane and join the NOX2/p22phox complex [30].

The majority of neutrophil-activating receptors induce extracellular calcium entry as an early signaling response to activate effector functions, including phagocytosis, degranulation, and chemotaxis [108]. These membrane receptors induce generation of inositol 1,4,5-trisphosphate (IP3) which activates IP3Rs and Ca2+ release from the intracellular stores which is important for phagocytosis [137]. Depleted stores are reloaded by the sarco/endoplasmic reticulum Ca2+ ATPase SERCA, whereby calcium influx into the cell is enhanced through store-operated calcium channels [23]. This Ca2+ influx is also required for neutrophil ROS generation by stimulating Ca2+-dependent recruitment of S100A8/A9 proteins which act as Ca2+ sensors and can interact with flavocytochrome b558 and p67phox to promote ROS generation [25]. Moreover, Hv1 voltage-gated proton channels have been shown to extrude the protons and compensate the charge generated by NADPH oxidases, thereby enhancing the driving force for extracellular Ca2+ entry and sustaining NADPH oxidase activity [46].

Similar to the NOX2 containing enzyme in neutrophils, NOX1 activity in keratinocytes has been described to be dependent on calcium in response to UVA light [153]. NOX1 activity requires the recruitment of cytosolic activators similar to NOX2, suggesting that calcium might also act in resembling way. Moreover, it has been recently shown that NOX1 can directly be phosphorylated by the calcium activated PKCβ1 suggesting that calcium may via this way enhance NOX1 activity [138].

Apart from these more indirect ways of calcium-dependent NOX activation, the NOX5 as well as the DUOX1 and DUOX2 containing enzymes have been shown to be calcium-binding proteins, which require calcium for ROS generation. NOX5 contains an N-terminal regulatory domain (called NOX5-EF) with four EF-hands. When Ca2+ binds to this domain, hydrophobic residues can interact with the C-terminal catalytic domain and activate the enzyme [7]. Besides of EF-hands, NOX5 can bind calcium-activated calmodulin to the C-terminal domain, leading to a conformational change and increased N-terminal enzymatic activity. Furthermore calcium-activated calcium/calmodulin-dependent kinase II (CAMKII) can positively regulate NOX5 activity via the phosphorylation of Ser475 [111]. Calcium-dependent NOX5 activity has been found to contribute to vascular proliferation and vessel formation [10], to proliferation in different cancer cell lines [3] and also might play a role in kidney disease [76] and in coronary artery disease [61].

Two other family members, dual oxidase 1 (DUOX1) and 2 (DUOX2) have been originally identified in the mammalian thyroid gland. DUOX1 is also highly expressed in airway epithelial cells and DUOX2 in the salivary glands and gastrointestinal tract. Dual oxidases contain an EF-hand calcium-binding cytosolic region similar to that in NOX5 and an N-terminal, extracellular domain with considerable sequence identity with mammalian peroxidases. DUOX enzymes are activated by calcium and release hydrogen peroxide rather than superoxide. In the thyroid, hydrogen peroxide produced by DUOX2 is utilized by thyroperoxidase as an electron acceptor to generate protein-bound iodothyronines (T3 and T4) [109,27,88]. Recently, it was shown that epidermal wounding induces a calcium flash which activates hydrogen peroxide production via DUOX1 and subsequently the recruitment of immune cells to migrate to the wound [122]. Similarly, calcium flashes have been shown to trigger DUOX-dependent hydrogen peroxide in zebrafish after mechanical injury, resulting in leukocyte recruitment [107]. Genetic studies in Drosophila have demonstrated that DUOX can generate microbicidal ROS in the gut epithelia [91].

Recent studies suggested a cross-talk between NADPH oxidases and mitochondrial ROS generation. For example, NOX2 was shown to stimulate mitochondrial ROS production by activating reverse electron transfer in angiotensin-II induced hypertension, while mitochondrial superoxide induced by activation of mitochondrial ATP-sensitive K+ channels has been demonstrated to stimulate NOX2, contributing to the development of endothelial oxidative stress and hypertension [106,43]. Although the exact mechanisms of this cross-talk are not clear yet, these findings might explain some discrepancies found in the literature regarding the sources of ROS. Since both ROS generating systems are sensitive to calcium, they show the importance of the calcium-ROS cross-talk under (patho)physiological conditions.

Vitamin D is one of the principal regulators of calcium in the body. It activates the Ca2+-ATPase pump that actually reverses the above process and pumps calcium back out of cells and into the extracellular space.


This starves SARS-CoV-2 of calcium needed for its life cycle, and it also has a net antioxidant effect by preventing calcium-based activation of ROS-synthesizing enzymes like NADPH oxidase. Without the initial superoxide to act as a "kindling radical", there can be no downstream radicals formed, either.


For a simple analogy, let's say that the virus is like a heavy rainfall that is flooding your basement (its proteins allow calcium into the cells in dangerous amounts). Vitamin D triggers the sump pump that dries out your basement before all your shit in your basement starts rusting (it pulls calcium back into the bloodstream and prevents oxidative stress).

This is, of course, why excessive Vitamin D can be a bad thing. You want balance, not hypercalcemia (high blood calcium). However, tons and tons of people in developed countries have pre-existing Vitamin D deficiencies that really should be treated.


Vitamin D deficiency is the most common medical condition worldwide. An estimated one billion people in the world have vitamin D deficiency or insufficiency (1). The prevalence of vitamin D deficiency among adult population was reported to be 14-59% with a higher prevalence in Asian countries (19-21).

People are sedentary and sun-deprived, and there you have it. Vitamin D deficiency.

Now, what are they doing with these trials of Vitamin D and other antioxidants? They've been giving them to people who are already deathly ill with COVID-19, and noting that they don't decrease the length of hospital stays.

That doesn't work. It doesn't work because lipid hydroperoxides have already built up in their bodies and are triggering continuous inflammation and oxidative stress. You can't put the genie back in the bottle. Once lipid peroxidation sets in, the oxidized fats are difficult for the body to eliminate. Lipids in general are hard to break down, are hydrophobic, and act as preservatives. Why do you put clove oil on a katana? Because it keeps water away and keeps the blade from rusting. Oils are used as lubricants and preservatives for all kinds of things for this very reason. They resist water, and they don't dissolve. That's why every cell in our bodies is lined with phospholipid bilayer membranes. They keep water away, acting like bulkheads in a ship; they divide the body up into compartments, and have a preservative effect on cells and their contents.

When oxidized lipids accumulate, they feed right into pattern recognition receptors that summon the immune system to come deal with the damage. The key to preventing this is to prevent the lipid peroxidation from ever occurring in the first place, and to do that, you need prophylactic, pre-emptive usage of Vitamin D and other antioxidants, like N-acetylcysteine, curcumin, quercetin, resveratrol, et cetera.
 
I flew back from Ohio last night and am now back in Masklandia (Aka SoCal). It's weird to see people walking around with their faces covered like nothing's changed. Looking forwards to the 15th when we're supposed to go back to normal (or not - depending on what new headline the news has dug up today).

Somebody asked if there was any testing or anything to fly. The only thing was a check box on your boarding pass saying you and your household didn't have symptoms. I actually tried to get a Covid test in Ohio, before flying back, and could not get one that wouldn't take a couple days. You think they'd have figured out how to make that easy by now...


Edit: Oh yeah, and everybody had to wear masks on the airplane and in the airports, but a lot of people, espeically on the flight to Vegas, had them off as much as possible to eat and stuff. Flying home, I saw the stewardess make one lady, with a rhinestone mesh mask, put a disposable on under it.

TLDR India is currently no worst off than either the US or the UK. India has fully vaccinated 3.3% of it's population compared to the US and the UK at 42%. Has Ivermectin helped? I would say so, but more likely the virus has run through it's population, just like it did everywhere else, and they've achieved suppression through herd immunity, again just like we did back in January.
Here's the India Reddit chattering about local logistics and the two vaccines they're getting. https://www.reddit.com/r/india/comments/n1plmu/coronavirus_covid19_discussion_megathread_9/. I'm not in the mood to dive too into it this morning but if somebody else wants to...
There's also a second thread of people looking for oxygen tanks and money for medical expenses and arguing about how 2nd doses of the vaccine can be hard to get. It all sounds very 3rd world.
 
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Somebody asked if there was any testing or anything to fly. The only thing was a check box on your boarding pass saying you and your household didn't have symptoms. I actually tried to get a Covid test in Ohio, before flying back, and could not get one that wouldn't take a couple days. You think they'd have figured out how to make that easy by now...
I wonder how long the airlines will keep this up given that chain grocery stores are going by local law and not idiotic corporate policy. My guess is "forever" since IIRC it's an FAA rule now thanks to Sleepy Joe and his gang and he has to look like he's doing something and airline executives don't give a shit since they're seeing insane business these days and they'll stuff you in the back of a 30-40 year old 737 or A320 and not give a fuck.
lol this is like that shithole state that finally legalized self service gas and all those dummies were like " durrr how does pump goes?"
Sounds like Oregon, where until a few years ago the state considered its residents too retarded to pump their own gas.
 
Interesting...
Hyman professor of chemistry Charles Lieber has created a transistor so small it can be used to penetrate cell membranes and probe their interiors, without disrupting function. The transistor (yellow) sits near the bend in a hairpin-shaped, lipid-coated silicon nanowire. Its scale is similar to that of intra-cellular structures such as organelles (pink and blue orbs) and actin filaments (pink strand).
This Charles Lieber
The complaint alleges that Lieber had lied about his affiliation with the Wuhan University of Technology (WUT) in China and a contract he had with a Chinese talent recruitment plan to attract high-level scientists to the country.
lipid coating? I remember hearing about that.
Lipids are an unsung component in the two mRNA-based shots, the only vaccines to be approved so far in the US. Naked mRNA quickly degrades in the body, and can trigger an unwanted immune reaction. To get the genetic material to its target cells, vaccine developers combine it with a mixture of several sophisticated lipids to form lipid nanoparticles, or LNPs.
So a guy works on an Alex Jones rant tier gizmo. Works with the Chinese then gets arrested when the pandemic starts. Later the nu-vacciness use a similar tech as their basis to deliver their load.

I guess a big part of the MemeFlu scare was about giving early biotech a dot com bubble style cash infusion. Imagine forcing the population to beta test a potential trillion dollar tech.
 
The @Drain Todger arc continues to amaze...

you could leverage this, my dude. Somehow.
There were dozens of potential therapeutics that could have treated this disease very efficiently.
  • Antivirals like Hydroxychloroquine, Ivermectin, Remdesivir, Kaletra, Interferon, et cetera. They were mostly given too late to be effective. COVID-19's viral load peaks when someone becomes symptomatic and declines when (and if) it progresses to hyper-inflammation. This means that by the time someone is in the ICU or receiving supplemental oxygen, there isn't much actual virus for an antiviral to prevent the replication of. Most studies examining the effectiveness of antivirals at treating COVID-19 basically gave them to the sickest patients and then assumed they had no effect when their condition failed to improve. This was pure incompetence or even malfeasance on their part. Also, a factory producing HCQ chemical precursors in Taiwan that was responsible for a large portion of the world's supply of HCQ mysteriously exploded. If Chinese spies had it bombed, that's a definite crime against humanity.
  • Not just injected steroids like dexamethasone, but also inhaled steroids like ciclesonide, mometasone, fluticasone, budesonide or beclomethasone. Why inject steroids when the site of inflammation is the lungs? Immunosuppression with dexamethasone is giving people in India highly disfiguring fungal infections.
  • H2 blockers, like famotidine, cimetidine, and ranitidine. Their H2 blocking function is not particularly useful in this case, but they scavenge damaging radicals and prevent lipid peroxidation. The FDA had ranitidine taken off the shelves. Their excuse was that it contained a carcinogenic contaminant.
  • Nutritional supplementation to reinforce the vascular endothelium. Vitamin D, N-acetylcysteine, glutathione, selenium, dietary nitrate, quercetin, curcumin, resveratrol, et cetera. Things that promote glutathione peroxidase and Nrf2 activity and pull calcium out of cells. This would also prevent lipid peroxidation. The FDA has been trying to remove N-acetylcysteine from the shelves, even though it has proven health benefits as an antioxidant and may lessen the severity of COVID-19.
  • Inhaled nitric oxide and non-invasive ventilation instead of mechanical ventilation. Instead, they pushed early and prompt mechanical ventilation as a treatment for what is actually a vascular endotheliitis. If vascular endotheliitis has weakened the capillaries of people's lungs, then mechanical ventilation stretching those blood vessels will only promote hemorrhaging and further injury, also called VILI (ventilator-induced lung injury). How many people died due to ventilators?
  • Diet and exercise. Nothing breaks down ROS more and supports vascular function more than getting adequate sunlight, jogging around, and eating healthy. Instead, they told people to lock ourselves indoors and get fat and unhealthy.
There are so many things they could have done, but didn't. In fact, they did the exact opposite. This is negligence on a frankly baffling scale. I am left with only one conclusion; we are unironically dealing with a vast, international conspiracy that's trying to kill millions of people by medical neglect or outright poisoning to create a crisis out of nothing and then politicize it.
 
I've been reading up on the amount of money being funneled into Wuhan, it's mind blowing.


So again why the fuck were western governments funding a hostile power's bio weapons research effort?

The Wuhan Institute of Virology is a People's Liberation Army Facility and we gave them tens of millions of dollars to help build Covid.
Not to be a dick, but do you think the EU and UK had any idea that this was going on?

It sounds like half of your government didn't know this was going on. It's almost a black-ops/shadow project
 
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One of the things I hate the most in this dystopian hellscape, is that I can’t even watch or listen to ANY news programs anymore. I used to just listen to the breakfast news program here in Chinada, while I was getting ready for work. Now every fucking ‘expert’ they have on there just repeats govt talking points and offers nothing new or insightful. It’s all Vaccines are our way out. Vaccines are highly effective. Vaccines are very safe. Ad infinitum.

Today a pleb called in to ask a so called expert about the situation in India and why cases are dropping so rapidly.
All this so called expert had to offer is
“Well they had very successful lockdowns and social distancing as well as vaccine deployment”

Excuse me? You know that’s total BS but god forbid you say something like ‘ivermectin may be helping’.

It enrages me. I just want to see a doctor who is transparent on MsM. Barring that, a news program that actually reports NEWS, not just govt propaganda.
Speaking of news, one local station would switch over to pandemic "news" with an intro accompanied by a solo piano playing a small series of minor notes to indicate doom and sadness. I noticed recently that they still have the daily segment and the intro, but have eliminated the ominous piano tune. So glad I only catch about 1/2 hour in the mornings just to see the weather and to hear how Aaron Rodgers is turning into Brett Favre 2.0.

eta: Into Week 2 of taking N-acetylcysteine, and I notice an improvement in my morning congestion. So far so good :)
 
I just got back from my illegal vacation, camping in a provincial park near a small city called Williams Lake, about 8-9 hours from my home. I did not encounter any covid roadblocks either coming or going despite the regional travel restrictions. When I told the park attendant that I was from the big city, she said she didn't care, and that it made no sense people from the city couldn't come up there but people from out of province could. Anyways, it was nice to spend a week without any internet or any other kind of media. I suspect most people in this province just don't give a shit about the restrictions and do what they want.
 
I'll joke about my lockdown weight loss, then.
Even city bugmen have no reason not to lose weight. Have to wear a mask outside and that's uncomfortable? Not allowed outside at all? Well just ignore that shit get your exercise running from Officer Donutmuncher when he tries to cite you. He gets exercise too, it's a win-win.
 
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