SCP Foundation - Creepypasta with roid rage - now ITT: SCP fans

[Furret]

FYI: May be just me, but I feel as though I’ve been close to using this forum as a personal blog, and take up too much space with these long posts. So, I went ahead and just made a Medium account. Effort posts will be there from now on.

First and only shilled post from me is about this:

Authors' Pages update - O5 Command

05command.wikidot.com

I encourage you to support and share it; a duplicate node that isn’t KiwiFarms might help to expose more people to the SCP shittiness while I’m at it.

I'm probably not going to follow this too closely, but I hope it goes well.

A mod is down for censure, surprising that they're finally doing something. Wonder how long it will take for all of them to be demoted or for it to be under the rug? http://05command.wikidot.com/forum/t-14115337/disciplinary-gee0765

Shout-out to Yossi for pointing out that many staff members have said worse and gone unpunished. The rules need to be enforced equally regardless of where someone is in the staff hierarchy.

Edit; Another disciplinary thread for staff members, this time Taylor_itkin and jackalrelated: archive. Same day, different incident.

I think I know what this one is about. There's this dude, "stoner99" on Wikidot, who was accused of being a KF user with some regularity while I was in SCPD for entertaining the idea that some of us might make valid points on a few issues. I think a bunch of them think he's my alt now. He's not, and they're never going to find any evidence to support the idea, but I guess baseless rumors are good enough for the co-captain of the team dedicated to reaching out to the community.

Does that actually mean anything or is it just wagging their finger and saying 'naughty boy'?

He'll lose power for a bit, but it's effectively a slap on the wrist.

 

[Punished “Venom” pH]

Does that actually mean anything or is it just wagging their finger and saying 'naughty boy'?

It’s “you’re too valuable to fire so we’re just going to engender as much resentment as possible between you and your colleagues to make you want to quit instead.” Looking at the history of what happens when a staff member was censured over time, this has been the only result thus far. See also: Cimmerian and I.

It’s also fascinating to see something that got Kondraki kicked off staff entirely now answered with a slap on the wrist. Because it is bad when staff go off-site to harass people out of their own feelings of insecurity, but not so bad as to require something actually be done about it.

 

[penismuncher89]

echoing what harmony said, censure is a slap on a wrist in the official capacity, but unofficially the damage done to your reputation (well, among the wiki staff) is far more severe

 

[ToS]

echoing what harmony said, censure is a slap on a wrist in the official capacity, but unofficially the damage done to your reputation (well, among the wiki staff) is far more severe

@Punished “Venom” pH having been censured before (what the hell were you doing with those upvote/downvote pages on that sock account anyway?) is this true? Did you carry a stigma with you around staff after? Or was it picking up right where you left off once it was over? Did it feel like an actual punishment?

 

[Punished “Venom” pH]

@Punished “Venom” pH having been censured before (what the hell were you doing with those upvote/downvote pages on that sock account anyway?) is this true? Did you carry a stigma with you around staff after? Or was it picking up right where you left off once it was over? Did it feel like an actual punishment?

It was a willful misunderstanding, I wanted to think that I had permission from my fellow staff and yeah, it was definitely a stigma that went as far as requiring me to get other staff to be the front people for stuff that I wanted to do because I was too politically radioactive to do it all myself. A censure is an invitation for everyone else to rail against you in a system where personal prestige is the currency of politics.

I would love to see the raccoon get a thread like this one day, seeing the most acidic person on staff have to sit while everyone takes turns blasting him would be great fun to read. People would have a lot to say using their angriest vocabulary.

 

[penismuncher89]

something of a footnote that I don’t know much about but might be of interest:

shaggydredlocks has implied/directly stated multiple times that he was informally kicked off(?)/resigned from staff after attempting to act on reports sent to him about TDM/Dr Bright.

he’s also given more weird, vague notions like that he’s “no longer welcome in the inner circle”, etc. anyone know more about this?

 

[shnoopsis]

after attempting to act on reports sent to him about TDM/Dr Bright.

I imagine now that people like AdminBright have recently found themselves in the limelight, bringing out more info on them right now would be very inconvenient for staff.

he’s also given more weird, vague notions like that he’s “no longer welcome in the inner circle”, etc. anyone know more about this?

@Punished "Venom" pH Don't say it.

 

[Cow-Chan]

something of a footnote that I don’t know much about but might be of interest:

shaggydredlocks has implied/directly stated multiple times that he was informally kicked off(?)/resigned from staff after attempting to act on reports sent to him about TDM/Dr Bright.

he’s also given more weird, vague notions like that he’s “no longer welcome in the inner circle”, etc. anyone know more about this?

Oh I must have missed that. I knew they tolerated having a child molester in their ranks, but I didn't realize they were actively protecting him and punishing anyone that tried to act on reports. That actually makes me angry enough to consider acting on it.

 

[Furret]

something of a footnote that I don’t know much about but might be of interest:

shaggydredlocks has implied/directly stated multiple times that he was informally kicked off(?)/resigned from staff after attempting to act on reports sent to him about TDM/Dr Bright.

he’s also given more weird, vague notions like that he’s “no longer welcome in the inner circle”, etc. anyone know more about this?

This is pretty damning if it turns out to be true, but I'd really like to see some proof before I act like it is.

In other news, the first town hall ended a few days ago, and it turns out that the people spamming my notifications with rainbows were correct to not expect much progress. Here's some highlights:

-ObserverSeptember, a fairly old user, is working on compiling an archive of wiki pieces deleted by their original authors. You can look at it here. So far, he's got a few people who had their things moved to RPC in June 2018 + Fishmonger's stuff. He posted it to one of the town hall threads, someone else pointed out that it's pretty shitty to blatantly disregard the wishes of the authors like this, and his response was basically that the license says he can so he doesn't give a shit. Looks like the Harmony dumpster fire is leading to a new era of flagrant disregard for author autonomy. Fantastic.
-An anonymous user has raised some concerns about how effective raising the age requirement for the wiki to 18 will actually be at preventing the kinds of incidents that led to the decision in the first place.
-The staff responses to user concerns have repeatedly felt a lot like rebuttals and attempts to dismiss the notion that staff needs to change, and users are not happy.
-Rounderhouse is extremely based.

Overall, not the start I was hoping for, but it's better than the immediate silencing/ignoring that I'm used to seeing from staff when users raise concerns like this. The threads have been closed to new posts, but the topics that are already there can still be debated, so I would keep an eye on these. I would offer my own opinion about what the problems with staff's responses to these posts are, but every point I could make has already been better articulated by the people in the threads themselves.

 

[Cow-Chan]

-An anonymous user has raised some concerns about how effective raising the age requirement for the wiki to 18 will actually be at preventing the kinds of incidents that led to the decision in the first place.

I can absolutely say people will lie about their age to join the SCP Foundation.

-The staff responses to user concerns have repeatedly felt a lot like rebuttals and attempts to dismiss the notion that staff needs to change, and users are not happy.

This will probably be the most likely thing to result in communal change. People realizing staff are shit are going to turn away from them, which is going to pull staff's power of popularity out from under them like a rug on a treadmill.

 

[BurnerPhone]

something of a footnote that I don’t know much about but might be of interest:

shaggydredlocks has implied/directly stated multiple times that he was informally kicked off(?)/resigned from staff after attempting to act on reports sent to him about TDM/Dr Bright.

he’s also given more weird, vague notions like that he’s “no longer welcome in the inner circle”, etc. anyone know more about this?

Seconding Furret, I'm tired of the amount of "just take my word for it" posts in this thread. I'm only basing my opinions on allegations with actual proof.

In regards to the town halls, SCP really needs to rebuild their staff structure from the ground up. The problem is that SCP isn't a professional job (despite some staff insisting upon their own importance). Staff roles are poorly defined and staff themselves have no motivation to do their jobs correctly outside of how motivated they feel. SCP desperately wants to be a professional organization, which is at odd with their community-driven mindset

 

[penismuncher89]

Seconding Furret, I'm tired of the amount of "just take my word for it" posts in this thread. I'm only basing my opinions on allegations with actual proof.

In regards to the town halls, SCP really needs to rebuild their staff structure from the ground up. The problem is that SCP isn't a professional job (despite some staff insisting upon their own importance). Staff roles are poorly defined and staff themselves have no motivation to do their jobs correctly outside of how motivated they feel. SCP desperately wants to be a professional organization, which is at odd with their community-driven mindset

ok, here is the sauce
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[Cow-Chan]

ok, here is the sauce
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Jesus that looks like SCPD. It takes some balls to openly shit on staff in there.

 

[Furret]

ok, here is the sauce
(scroll through the images backwards, its out of order)

Thank you for not side-stepping this for 50 pages of thread. Also, this looks extremely bad for them. They probably thought they were doing the right thing because Shaggy wasn't in AH, but they were actually delaying Bright's downfall. Shaggy quit staff in 2019, so his inquiries predate Bright's exposal on this thread and resignation by at least a year. If he's telling the truth, that is.

 

[Cow-Chan]

Thank you for not side-stepping this for 50 pages of thread. Also, this looks extremely bad for them. They probably thought they were doing the right thing because Shaggy wasn't in AH, but they were actually delaying Bright's downfall. Shaggy quit staff in 2019, so his inquiries predate Bright's exposal on this thread and resignation by at least a year. If he's telling the truth, that is.

I recall Shaggy being a relatively upstanding individual, I doubt he's lying here

 

[penismuncher89]

Thank you for not side-stepping this for 50 pages of thread. Also, this looks extremely bad for them. They probably thought they were doing the right thing because Shaggy wasn't in AH, but they were actually delaying Bright's downfall. Shaggy quit staff in 2019, so his inquiries predate Bright's exposal on this thread and resignation by at least a year. If he's telling the truth, that is.

i’m not sure what you mean when you say “bright’s downfall”. he’s still unbanned and active. that was actually the cause of this conversation.

 

[Baubius]

This is pretty damning if it turns out to be true, but I'd really like to see some proof before I act like it is.

In other news, the first town hall ended a few days ago, and it turns out that the people spamming my notifications with rainbows were correct to not expect much progress. Here's some highlights:

-ObserverSeptember, a fairly old user, is working on compiling an archive of wiki pieces deleted by their original authors. You can look at it here. So far, he's got a few people who had their things moved to RPC in June 2018 + Fishmonger's stuff. He posted it to one of the town hall threads, someone else pointed out that it's pretty shitty to blatantly disregard the wishes of the authors like this, and his response was basically that the license says he can so he doesn't give a shit. Looks like the Harmony dumpster fire is leading to a new era of flagrant disregard for author autonomy. Fantastic.
-An anonymous user has raised some concerns about how effective raising the age requirement for the wiki to 18 will actually be at preventing the kinds of incidents that led to the decision in the first place.
-The staff responses to user concerns have repeatedly felt a lot like rebuttals and attempts to dismiss the notion that staff needs to change, and users are not happy.
-Rounderhouse is extremely based.

Overall, not the start I was hoping for, but it's better than the immediate silencing/ignoring that I'm used to seeing from staff when users raise concerns like this. The threads have been closed to new posts, but the topics that are already there can still be debated, so I would keep an eye on these. I would offer my own opinion about what the problems with staff's responses to these posts are, but every point I could make has already been better articulated by the people in the threads themselves.

more proof that a great moderator fallout is soon to happen in SCP. I've been predicting this since I discovered KF. i'd say give it another year or two before shit really hits the fan

people are starting to realize something fucky's going on behind the scenes. the userbase will eventually happen upon the droves of damning evidence against staffers that we and others have brought up to the surface and the mods will issue a mass banning/silencing event. no it won't be the yurt's last stand, it'll just be a bunch of petty manchildren with admin powers banning people from the wiki left and right thinking itll all be okay and everyone will forget. its happened with so many other communities, and itll happen with this one.

ok, here is the sauce
(scroll through the images backwards, its out of order)

i remember Rounder banned me from Cimmerian's server when i started posting shit about the initial pedo leaks back in 2018/19 when I first joined. good stuff, and I told you so.

 

[penismuncher89]

more proof that a great moderator fallout is soon to happen in SCP. I've been predicting this since I discovered KF. i'd say give it another year or two before shit really hits the fan

people are starting to realize something fucky's going on behind the scenes. the userbase will eventually happen upon the droves of damning evidence against staffers that we and others have brought up to the surface and the mods will issue a mass banning/silencing event. no it won't be the yurt's last stand, it'll just be a bunch of petty manchildren with admin powers banning people from the wiki left and right thinking itll all be okay and everyone will forget. its happened with so many other communities, and itll happen with this one.

I agree, but it won’t happen how you described. scp users, for all of their flaws, aren’t complete imbeciles. most of them know about and actively complain that bright is still on the site. what do you think the context of those screenshots was?

that being said, the admins policy on this issue has been to “kill it with silence” instead of mass bannings, which seems to be working so far. but some semi-influential writers are getting really mad, and its inevitable that a youtuber will pick it up or someone will start a boycott or something. after that, i’m not sure. scp admin autism civil war? that would be pretty funny. but eh, who knows.

 

[Troonologist PhD]

What the Hell does SRS stand for? Shit Reddit Says? Supplemental Restraint Systems? Sex Reassignment Surgery? Simple Revolutionary Solutions? The OP for a thread shouldn't use a vague abbreviation without explaining what they're talking about.

 

[shnoopsis]

that being said, the admins policy on this issue has been to “kill it with silence” instead of mass bannings, which seems to be working so far.

Considering these guys are nerds who spend too much time on the internet, they've probably heard of the Steisand Effect. Whether or not this strategy will prevent it from happening is another thing entirely, especially since it hasn't really worked in the past. The "Doctor Doctor Doctor" article is the first thing that comes to mind when it comes to attempts by staff to silently sweep something under the rug failing to hide it for long.