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[RedRage]

I think what really blows is that it kind of gives me an eternal feeling of uncertainty.
If Coco can just open graduate out of the blue despite how well things seem to have been going then there's nothing stopping anyone else from just jumping ship too.
Something like Mori or another Talent leaving is something that can realistically just happened now

Yep, this happening is the equivalent of a crack forming in the glass. now every time you look at it you can't help but expect it to break.

 

[Site User 11]

It's almost poetic huh? The brightest stars burn out the fastest. It wasn't until this that I realized just how far into the hole I had fallen. Even if she wasn't my oshi this announcement actually disturbed me.

 

[Town Drunk]

Yeah, this is way too fake. Again, if the chinese shareholders really have such a power to harass and isolate Coco like that, Cover wouldn't have burned bridges with bilibili/China. They have lots of deal cancelled because of the West Taiwan incident, if some of the shareholders really hates Coco, they would have fired her instead

Cover is a business, and you underestimate how much the Chinese cock is worth sucking. If the rumors are to be true, and they seem to be, they tried to have their cake and eat it too. Keep Coco as a cash cow for the JP/EN market, but limit their support for her. Try to ride out the storm. You forget that the talent are more or less contractors for Cover. Independent, but giving Cover a cut of the money made. Disavow, but cash the checks.

Just my guess, but Coco got sick of dealing with it. Something major happened. A dispute with management probably.

 

[LullerDerbyRollin]

Apparently both Miko and Choco also tried to talk Coco out of graduating, sounds to me like it was voluntary.

https://twitter.com/yuzukichococh/status/1402507184353660929

https://twitter.com/sakuramiko35/status/1402483372660649989

https://twitter.com/yozoramel/status/1402508390375378944

Seems like Mel tried to talk her out of it as well. Voluntary indeed, but the verdict's still missing onhow amicable it is, but then again. Coco's been rather pleasant during this, as much as she can be.

Calling it right now: Someone gave Coco the casting couch and now she's running for the hills

Not to make light of it if it's true but I can't see it any other way. She's not gonna say she was given the Weinstein Wine because she wants to protect her frens but something happened. You don't turn down potentially millions of dollars annually and a career cross-platform that nets you merch, an anime, potentially more job opportunities in voice acting (unless Hololive forbids you branching out in its contract, which would be another reason to leave since in Japan voice acting gets you mega money) and further.
Someone diddled the dragon. I almost guarantee it.

If the casting couch came out I do not think any of the girls would talk her into staying. Why would Mel? She nearly got physically, sexually assaulted by her ex-manager. She'd try to have their balls on her plate next room mate stream if they tried to casting couch Coco. I can't buy the casting couch idea.

 

[X-avier cuck]

Yep, this happening is the equivalent of a crack forming in the glass. now every time you look at it you can't help but expect it to break.

I know I sound like an autistic broken record but I just think of how much influence she had not only over the community but Reddit.
The biggest lesson here is to never take something for granted.

 

[Scuttle]

In slightly brighter news, they finally released the participants of the Nijisanji World Among Us collaboration. There's at least one person from every branch, including Ban Hada.

https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1402520843452923914?s=19

 

[SmugPeko]

Enjoy every kaichou's content this month bois. Anyway she have a uno collab stream later aswell with marine, FBK and kanata in FBK ch.

 

[Diya]

Happy 1500 page, everyone. I don't have anything worthwhile to add. Everything is meaningless.

 

[Town Drunk]

I think what really blows is that it kind of gives me an eternal feeling of uncertainty.
If Coco can just open graduate out of the blue despite how well things seem to have been going then there's nothing stopping anyone else from just jumping ship too.
Something like Mori or another Talent leaving is something that can realistically just happened now

I'd always imagined Calli leaving first. Holo just being a stepping stone for her real dream of a rap career.

 

[Lyra94]

Cover is a business, and you underestimate how much the Chinese cock is worth sucking. If the rumors are to be true, and they seem to be, they tried to have their cake and eat it too. Keep Coco as a cash cow for the JP/EN market, but limit their support for her. Try to ride out the storm. You forget that the talent are more or less contractors for Cover. Independent, but giving Cover a cut of the money made. Disavow, but cash the checks.

Just my guess, but Coco got sick of dealing with it. Something major happened. A dispute with management probably.

I'd buy this more if they hadn't nuked the entire CN branch as some of the girls were getting new models/3D etc

 

[EyelessMC]

I think what really blows is that it kind of gives me an eternal feeling of uncertainty.
If Coco can just open graduate out of the blue despite how well things seem to have been going then there's nothing stopping anyone else from just jumping ship too.
Something like Mori or another Talent leaving is something that can realistically just happened now

Remember, the cat said "I'll leave when Hololive is no good." Something like that. If the cat goes also then you know Hololive is under new management...

If the casting couch came out I do not think any of the girls would talk her into staying.

That's the thing, she'd be silent about the casting couch because it'd potentially destroy Hololive's reputation and destroy the girls' careers by proxy. Of course there's alternatives but someone who's been put into that situation doesn't exactly think clearly and fears like this are natural.

Why would Mel? She nearly got physically, sexually assaulted by her ex-manager.

What's the story with that? Was it a previous producer or a store manager?

She'd try to have their balls on her plate next room mate stream if they tried to casting couch Coco. I can't buy the casting couch idea.

Coco needs to say it for her to react that way, though. You never know. But I can't fathom anything else that'd call for a drastic turnabout like this other than something as stark as that. Coco was so deep into the frens she started a V-tuber boarding house or whatever. She wouldn't give all that up--and, again, millions of dollars--for anything less than a nuclear strike.

 

[Town Drunk]

Happy 1500 page, everyone. I don't have anything worthwhile to add. Everything is meaningless.

 

[X-avier cuck]

I'd always imagined Calli leaving first. Holo just being a stepping stone for her real dream of a rap career.

That's kind of a thing I wouldn't have really imagine anybody leaving anytime soon if it weren't for this.
Ik Coco had to deal with a lot but this could end up becoming a void.
I only mentioned Mori because it's clear that people were doggin around due to the stream muck-up and her 5% comment from her drawing stream

 

[Bingeamint]

Enjoy every kaichou's content this month bois. Anyway she have a uno collab stream later aswell with marine, FBK and kanata in FBK ch.

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I don't know about you guys but watching coco last streams the rest of the month is going to be hard and depressing, knowing that July 1st is going to come 1 day closer every stream she is does or is on.

 

[RiverBear]

In slightly brighter news, they finally released the participants of the Nijisanji World Among Us collaboration. There's at least one person from every branch, including Ban Hada.

https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1402520843452923914?s=19

ID, EN and KR reps are fluent in English

Kana Sukoya has a Lv2 English Proficiency

I'm not familiar with Remi, but I assume she's decent enough at English

 

[EyelessMC]

Theories and feels aside, how would you react if Coco came back on July 2 as Coco2 or something and all of this turned out to be a shit test?

 

[Airihead]

I 100% believe this was kaichous decision

With how much she blamed herself and the ramping up of the bugs i can see her thinking this will make them stop attacking the others

Kaichou is too kind and naive she sacrificed herself for her peers i guarantee it

 

[Rezza]

Cover is a business, and you underestimate how much the Chinese cock is worth sucking. If the rumors are to be true, and they seem to be, they tried to have their cake and eat it too. Keep Coco as a cash cow for the JP/EN market, but limit their support for her. Try to ride out the storm. You forget that the talent are more or less contractors for Cover. Independent, but giving Cover a cut of the money made. Disavow, but cash the checks.

Just my guess, but Coco got sick of dealing with it. Something major happened. A dispute with management probably.

I know this is business, but the theory still didn't make any sense. Again, the chinese don't forget and don't forgive. The theory can't hold up because the next step woul be trying to appease to the chinks again, and people on both sides won't accept that so easily

 

[LullerDerbyRollin]

Remember, the cat said "I'll leave when Hololive is no good." Something like that. If the cat goes also then you know Hololive is under new management...
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That's the thing, she'd be silent about the casting couch because it'd potentially destroy Hololive's reputation and destroy the girls' careers by proxy. Of course there's alternatives but someone who's been put into that situation doesn't exactly think clearly and fears like this are natural.

What's the story with that? Was it a previous producer or a store manager?

Coco needs to say it for her to react that way, though. You never know. But I can't fathom anything else that'd call for a drastic turnabout like this other than something as stark as that. Coco was so deep into the frens she started a V-tuber boarding house or whatever. She wouldn't give all that up--and, again, millions of dollars--for anything less than a nuclear strike.

God, the lethargy would kill me if God had any mercy, I fear he doesn't.

So, Mel was not intended to be Holo Gen 1, she was a replacement for Hitomi Chris. She got recruited by a friend of hers' who worked at Cover and thus became her manager. Said dude starts creeping on her by forcing her into a lot of meetings and even dinner meetings and so she hiatus'd Hololive work. She couldn't prove to Cover it was him, until the dumbass left his email attached to a Twitter spam account that was harassing her. Now here is Japan, the police are cowards because they fear being prosecuted and so do companies, your best bet is to then become the claimant and so she did. He got fired and she returned.

There you go, that is the play by play on Mel.

 

[Avokado]

I don't know about you guys but watching coco last streams the rest of the month is going to be hard and depressing, knowing that July 1st is going to come 1 day closer every stream she is does or is on.

Yeah, I'd rather: Announcement -> No Stream (or maybe solo chatting stream only) -> Graduation Live Show.