Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

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Okay, so until now, I've paid zero attention to Vivziepop aside from watching her Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss shorts. I've understood that there's some amount of internet Lefties that hate her guts, but still don't know any of the details about it.

With that said, back when I first watched the Hazbin Hotel pilot, I was quite tickled by the possibility of this show about denizens of Hell (with a heavy dose of gayness) ultimately having a positive Christian message. Our main protagonist Charlie is set to run a "hotel" for the purpose of redeeming sinners so that they can leave Hell. All the while, she has to find the answer to what redemption even means. Antagonistic Alastor scoffs at Charlie's goal, a setup for his doubts to be proven wrong by the end of the show. Angel Dust is a supporting character who puts on a front of intense debauchery, but ultimately wants to be redeemed of his sinful behavior. This is all a pretty Christian premise, don't you think?

In light of what I am seeing Viv say about Scott Cawthon with explicit demeaning mention of Christianity, however, my enthusiasm is now diminishing with the rising possibility that the show won't be as Christian as I was hoping, but will rather go the route of edgy anti-theism. I especially dread the prospect of the show eventually involving itself with Heaven, given the likelihood that Viv's takeaway for it will be "actually Heaven is just as bad (or worse) than Hell."
 
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Okay, so until now, I've paid zero attention to Vivziepop aside from watching her Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss shorts. I've understood that there's some amount of internet Lefties that hate her guts, but still don't know any of the details about it.

With that said, back when I first watched the Hazbin Hotel pilot, I was quite tickled by the possibility of this show about denizens of Hell (with a heavy dose of gayness) ultimately having a positive Christian message. Our main protagonist Charlie is set to run a "hotel" for the purpose of redeeming sinners so that they can leave Hell. All the while, she has to find the answer to what redemption even means. Antagonistic Alastor scoffs at Charlie's goal, a setup for his doubts to be proven wrong by the end of the show. Angel Dust is a supporting character who puts on a front of intense debauchery, but ultimately wants to be redeemed of his sinful behavior. This is all a pretty Christian premise, don't you think?

In light of what I am seeing Viv say about Scott Cawthon with explicit demeaning mention of Christianity, however, my enthusiasm is now diminishing with the rising possibility that the show won't be as Christian as I was hoping, but will rather go the route of edgy anti-theism. I especially dread the prospect of the show eventually involving itself with Heaven, given the likelihood that Viv's takeaway for it will be "actually Heaven is just as bad (or worse) than Hell."
Ehh, from the fourth episode of HB, it became clear that Viv Heaven is a closed elitist community filled with two-faced bureaucrats.
 
Watched this a while back when it premiered on Youtube; honestly seemed promising. There's always going to be a market for animation with adult jokes that throws back to Adult Swim - shit, there's ghostly Steven Universe fans and bronies out there who could probably use something like this to latch onto.

Creator's another way-too-online cow though, and any production company worth their salt would get her accounts locked down or filtered through a PR person, because the creator just screams liability from the way they talk online. I get shades of Zoe Quinn from her, It can only get worse from here.
 
Ehh, from the fourth episode of HB, it became clear that Viv Heaven is a closed elitist community filled with two-faced bureaucrats.
Yeah, I later saw that and naively hoped it to be an outlier just involving low-level heavenly agents to match the more purely-comedic tone of Helluva Boss. It's at least worth noting that the cherubs who lost their shit and accidentally killed someone were duly punished to be fallen angels exiled from Heaven.

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Yeah, I later saw that and naively hoped it to be an outlier just involving low-level heavenly agents to match the more purely-comedic tone of Helluva Boss. It's at least worth noting that the cherubs who lost their shit and accidentally killed someone were duly punished to be fallen angels exiled from Heaven.


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I went ahead and archived the two videos. Better safe than sorry, I suppose. Had to compress the videos to get them uploaded, apologies in advance.

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SPEED DRAW - FNAF ANIMATRONICS -VivziePop (uploaded on 5 June 2015)


The most recent comments on Viv's speed draw gave me the feeling that she might delete it, if her deleted tweets are anything to go by.

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I went ahead and archived the two videos. Better safe than sorry, I suppose. Had to compress the videos to get them uploaded, apologies in advance.

Five Nights at Freddy's Song - Animated Song Biscuits (uploaded on 15 August 2015)
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SPEED DRAW - FNAF ANIMATRONICS -VivziePop (uploaded on 5 June 2015)
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The most recent comments on Viv's speed draw gave me the feeling that she might delete it, if her deleted tweets are anything to go by.

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Martin Veas: 'True'
Metal Bonnie: 'Yeah yes. Vivzie apparently was a fan of FNaF, but now hates that as if there was no tomorrow.'
 
I know I'm late but here is my take on the entire situation: the amount of drama that goes on within the entire Viv/Hazbin/Helluva community is too much, most other fandoms are honestly saner and at least their creators barely or never get into any drama on Twitter. Never have I seen such a drama-tainted community with so many ship wars, fights and frequent wars between other communities, and now finally the creator getting doxxed.

The many flavors of political nutjob or toxic person either praising the series or calling it trash along with Viv's constant Twitter drama and politisperging really dampens down my enjoyment of her content. I don't want to go full doomer but at this point I wouldn't be surprised if the entire thing collapses within 5 to 10 years. I have a strong gut feeling that it could implode at any moment with all the drama taking place and escalating to levels never seen before.

And as for Viv's original tweet, its really bad and stupid as fuck. I'll fully admit I lean left myself but I'm friends with Christians and pro-lifers and can actually have civil debates with them. Not all Christians are anti-science fundies or gun-toting rednecks from the Deep South, and even though I don't agree with some of Scott's beliefs or statements I respect his decisions and beliefs as at least he is a very friendly and civil man who keeps his personal beliefs out of his work. Twitter is a plague at this point...

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This is an artwork by Themrock which is a really accurate depiction of Twitter: It being a godawful social media site that scares even the devil. It is honestly a pretty spot-on take considering how this hellsite brings out the worst in anyone using it.
 
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I was willing to give Hazbin Hotel a chance for a long while, but seeing how shit of a person Viv has proven herself to be, she can get fucked and also I'm spreading her dox.
well, she's fucked again
 
Okay, so until now, I've paid zero attention to Vivziepop aside from watching her Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss shorts. I've understood that there's some amount of internet Lefties that hate her guts, but still don't know any of the details about it.

With that said, back when I first watched the Hazbin Hotel pilot, I was quite tickled by the possibility of this show about denizens of Hell (with a heavy dose of gayness) ultimately having a positive Christian message. Our main protagonist Charlie is set to run a "hotel" for the purpose of redeeming sinners so that they can leave Hell. All the while, she has to find the answer to what redemption even means. Antagonistic Alastor scoffs at Charlie's goal, a setup for his doubts to be proven wrong by the end of the show. Angel Dust is a supporting character who puts on a front of intense debauchery, but ultimately wants to be redeemed of his sinful behavior. This is all a pretty Christian premise, don't you think?

In light of what I am seeing Viv say about Scott Cawthon with explicit demeaning mention of Christianity, however, my enthusiasm is now diminishing with the rising possibility that the show won't be as Christian as I was hoping, but will rather go the route of edgy anti-theism. I especially dread the prospect of the show eventually involving itself with Heaven, given the likelihood that Viv's takeaway for it will be "actually Heaven is just as bad (or worse) than Hell."
That’s a rising possibility I’ve been dreading since the fourth episode. I just wish there could be more western works that didn’t revolve into anti-theism. The whole “heaven is as bad as hell you guys” gets kind of stale when nothing else is done with it.
Creator's another way-too-online cow though, and any production company worth their salt would get her accounts locked down or filtered through a PR person, because the creator just screams liability from the way they talk online.
This goes for pretty much any animator on twitter right now; even those employed by big companies like WB and Disney tend to act the same way and have no tard wranglers around. Craig McCracken might be the only one to actually use Twitter for just promoting his shows and talking about production.
Which begs the question: is it that hard to make a professional twitter account and then a second account for personal use?

Well, then you haven't seen homestuck community for over the past 5 years.
Hell, try any fan community over the past decade.
 
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