Lolcow Melinda Leigh Scott & Marshall Castersen - Sue-happy couple. Flat earth conspiracists. Pretending to be Jewish. Believe Kiwi Farms is protected by the Masonic Order. 0-6 on lawsuits. Marshall is dead.

[Baby Yoda]

Bill Gates currently owns 300,000 acres of farm land. Why does any one person need to own 300,000 acres while other people in the US don't even have access to organic food?

Speaking of socialism, please redistribute your shithole by DMing pics of your ass opening to all of us.

 

[Karl der Grosse]

In Qatar, the average per capita income is $129,700 a year; in Saudi Arabia, it is $54,100.

https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/saudi-arabia-economy-facts-2019-5-1028161696

I read the $95k statistic a few years ago. But the point is the same: the redistribution of wealth benefits the masses in other countries. And Saudi Arabia's socialistic programs bring the average per household just as high as the US

Both Qatar and Saudi Arabia are very poor examples to use when talking about land homesteading and land distribution. Both countries, but especially Qatar, have very small areas of actually arable land worth owning. Their wealth comes not from the land surface, but from the uniquely valuable resource that lies under it. They can afford to be outrageously generous when it comes to income and social services. It's important to note that, even with this huge wealth, the average citizen doesn't actually own the resource, they only share in a tiny portion of the revenue. The state owns the resource, and a tiny elite controls it. That's not wealth redistribution, that's buying off your populace with bread and circuses and free money to keep them sated and lazy and keep them from questioning why they have so few rights and such an oppressive government. It's not actually benefitting the masses at all. See also: UBI.

Not to mention that their populations are tiny compared to ours.

I actually like the idea of opening up select lands in federal hands for some form of homesteading. It could be a way to start hundreds or thousands of small, family owned businesses/farms/ranches. The key thing would be vetting the homesteaders. You would need to have objective standards for prospective homesteaders. That will never happen in today's atmosphere. I believe a proposal was floated last year to fund a program where blacks can get grants as small ranchers and farmers and very favorite treatment, but it may have been quietly dropped when people started pointing out that there's not all that many black people who really want to farm or know how to do it. I actually like the idea in theory, assuming you were selecting from a pool of qualified applicants. Why shouldn't a black farmhand or ranch worker get a chance to run his own outfit? Again, impossible in today's clown world.

In any land redistribution scheme that's likely to happen in today's world, Melinda will be second to last in line. She's a white woman. The only person behind her is we white men. And nobody's gonna give either one of us free land. It's a nice dream to have, though. It's not a bad thing to wish for a piece of land of your own. Being a landowner is a great feeling and I think it's criminal the way land ownership seems to be consolidating into the hands of the few.

 

[talk talk talk]

As the resident KF Marxist, I have to point out that the lumpenproletariat doesn't get any more lumpen than Smelly.

 

[Rod Dangerous]

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I’m missing about two dozen more of their sock accounts.

 

[Burmese Rice Farmer]

Bill Gates currently owns 300,000 acres of farm land. Why does any one person need to own 300,000 acres while other people in the US don't even have access to organic food?

Cuz he's rich and ur poor, just stop being poor you fucking moron

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Both Qatar and Saudi Arabia

Why does every time her "perfect land" come up, she always lists countries where women have little to no rights, or none at all? Does she like to get abused that much?

 

[TamarYaelBatYah]

Also, guess why Saudi Araba can give so much money away? Oil fields!

And guess why the USA can give so much money away?

It has 800 billionaires!

Nobody needs to keep on hand more than 1 billion dollars in cash a year.

Are you alleging a massive world wide conspiracy to fake all the data around socialism?

Yes, I believe many studies are fake news, paid for conclusions and confirmation bias at work.

Because he earned it. and wants to have it. Why should you get his stuff for free?

Bill Gates did not earn the right to hoard land. No one has an inherent right to hoard any natural resource.

It should be illegal for anyone to own more than 5 acres of land/per adult and 5 acres for each dependent.

When you go to the grocery store you see signs that say "LIMIT 2 PER CUSTOMER". When you live in a housing complex you get 2 parking spots.

If grocery stores and housing complexes can find a way to regulate greed, so can governments.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

And guess why the USA can give so much money away?

It has 800 billionaires!

Nobody needs to keep on hand more than 1 billion dollars in cash a year.



Yes, I believe many studies are fake news, paid for conclusions and confirmation bias at work.



Bill Gates did not earn the right to hoard land. No one has an inherent right to hoard any natural resource.

It should be illegal for anyone to own more than 5 acres of land/per adult and 5 acres for each dependent.

When you go to the grocery store you see signs that say "LIMIT 2 PER CUSTOMER". When you live in a housing complex you get 2 parking spots.

If grocery stores and housing complexes can find a way to regulate greed, so can governments.

Just because you can never afford something shouldn't make it illegal for others. Get off your fucking ass and work and you'll make money to afford things. Than again, you have no idea how money works. It's one of the reasons why you're poor and need government hand outs.
Also, learn what taxes are and how much money American steals from the World Bank.

Why does every time her "perfect land" come up, she always lists countries where women have little to no rights, or none at all? Does she like to get abused that much?

I doubt the idiot reads up on those countries. She can't even read the articles she links.

Because he earned it. and wants to have it. Why should you get his stuff for free?

He mentioned on a AMA on Reddit that the investment firm he deals with told him to buy land, so he has.

I wonder if she knows

The answer to this is always "No".

 

[White Baby]

Yes, I believe many studies are fake news, paid for conclusions and confirmation bias at work.

This is hilarious because you're literally the human embodiment of confirmation bias.

Nobody needs to keep on hand more than 1 billion dollars in cash a year.

They don't. Billionaires hoard wealth in investments (like land and stocks). When you see someone whose net worth is valued in the millions or billions, the majority of that value is in investments.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

This is hilarious because you're literally the human embodiment of confirmation bias.

They don't. Billionaires hoard wealth in investments (like land and stocks). When you see someone whose net worth is valued in the millions or billions, the majority of that value is in investments.

And in material assets which is often list separately from investments even though they're the same thing.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

800

644, you mean, right?

And guess why the USA can give so much money away?

It has 800 billionaires!

Nobody needs to keep on hand more than 1 billion dollars in cash a year.

Punishing the rich, will only drive all of them away, and then you will be left with a 4 trillion USD loss. But, lets say we steal all the money from the rich. How long will it last? Less than a year. All the billionaires combined have around 4 trillion usd (that is if you were able to convert everything into cash perfectly which is impossible). US spends 210 thousand per second. That's 12,600,000 per minute. 756,000,000 per hour. All the money the billionaires have would last the government 5,291 hours. That's about 220 and a half days. That's slightly more than 7 months. In the best case scenario, your communistic plan could survive only 7 months.

Now, the finer points might be difficult to understand for you, given you don't really see any difference between land having oil and billionaires, but I hope some amount of my knowledge will enlighten you.

Nobody needs to keep on hand more than 1 billion dollars in cash a year.

Most of them hold 1% or less in cash

Yes, I believe many studies are fake news, paid for conclusions and confirmation bias at work.

Prove it. I proved that you were wrong using all the available data. You can look up testimonies of people who escaped china, ussr, etc, and you will see the same thing. It doesn't work. But your counter proof seems to be "nuh uh, socialism works because I wanna!"

What about Chinese Gov admitting that half of their people can't afford to eat? Was Chinese Gov bribed to say that?

Bill Gates did not earn the right to hoard land. No one has an inherent right to hoard any natural resource.

He did though, by buying the land. You still failed to answer the main question.

It should be illegal for anyone to own more than 5 acres of land/per adult and 5 acres for each dependent.

Punish the successful because you are a failure? Surely you must understand that this is stupid idea.

When you go to the grocery store you see signs that say "LIMIT 2 PER CUSTOMER". When you live in a housing complex you get 2 parking spots.

If grocery stores and housing complexes can find a way to regulate greed, so can governments.

But gov shouldn't. Greed causes progress, and makes lives better.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

I hope some amount of my knowledge will enlighten you.

It wont, she will consider it fake news or something.

What about Chinese Gov admitting that half of their people can't afford to eat? Was Chinese Gov bribed to say that?

China wont even admit the Wu flu came from them so them admitting to their citizen's can't eat was huge for the country at the time.

Punishing the rich, will only drive all of them away, and then you will be left with a 4 trillion USD loss. But, lets say we steal all the money from the rich. How long will it last? Less than a year. All the billionaires combined have around 4 trillion usd (that is if you were able to convert everything into cash perfectly which is impossible). US spends 210 thousand per second. That's 12,600,000 per minute. 756,000,000 per hour. All the money the billionaires have would last the government 5,291 hours. That's about 220 and a half days. That's slightly more than 7 months. In the best case scenario, your communistic plan could survive only 7 months.

All socialism does is put all the wealth into the hands of one person. Look at USSR. Stalin controlled up to 9.6% of the global GDP , or $5.79 trillion dollars.



The reason why socialism doesn't work is because it's not compatible with human nature. Any economics class will teach you that. In order for a government to work correctly and not fail people need an incentive to do something.

And no, anyone who wants to defend socialism by saying that it only fails because people don't practice pure/ true socialism. The only way for it to work is to change human nature.

 

[talk talk talk]

 

[Useful_Mistake]

It wont, she will consider it fake news or something.

Sad that even math is fake news nowadays. Then again, I hate math, so....

China wont even admit the Wu flu came from them so them admitting to their citizen's can't eat was huge for the country at the time.

Exactly! But, nah, it probably just was Orange Man who gave them some fortnite vbucks to say this.

All socialism does is put all the wealth into the hands of one person. Look at USSR. Stalin controlled up to 9.6% of the global GDP , or $5.79 trillion dollars.

All Socialism does, is consume a country, and move on to another. Look at post WW2 (After USSR left) Hungary. 41 quadrilion% inflation per month. Look at Venezuela. Socialism only destroys. It can never do anything else.

 

[TamarYaelBatYah]

You were warned that Marshall was going to be a bad father. So this is your fault and you reap what you sow. I love watching women who were SLOOTS and couldnt resist being nutted in, suffer in their older years and then expect sympathy from everyone.

Show shithole btw.

narcissistic dehumanization of women's sexuality AND narcissistic narrative

Secondly, never said I was "suffering" nor asking for "sympathy". Those are your assumptions.

Has Marshall paid you back a single penny of the stimulus money you "lent" him? Do you really think that he will? Or is it going to be like the times you left Marshall and he never so much as called to see how his children (both his real children and his "spiritual" children) are doing? You'll be waiting a long time for either those phone calls or any of that money, I'll bet.

At this point, I'm just going to "cut my losses and go" when it comes to the money.

Marshall has consistently taken money and resources from me to his advantage without reciprocating. I would say he's a "taker" in the relationship. He "looks out for #1"/for himself. I believe that some of this comes from his worldview about the role of women, and some of this comes from his highly narcissistic nature.

You know, it's one thing if you share your resources and money with someone because it's part of the "give and take" of the relationship, but throughout the whole time I have been with Marshall, I've given and given and given and given and given and given, and given and given and given and given....and in return, I've gotten 95% disrespect and about 5% good days.

At some point I just stopped giving because it was clear that this was never going to change. I'm not going to give to someone who doesn't treat me right. I am a fully recovered Codependent. I was once a Codependent in my past. That was the folly of my late teens/early 20s. I'm past that now.

 

[Burmese Rice Farmer]

narcissistic blah blah blah

Nah m8 you can't pin this on narcisstic rhetoric, you had the time to know Marshall and his past and you ignored it, this is 100% your fault.

Show your gaping anus.

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

I have to disagree here. Socialism is about the distribution of resources based solely on the merit one's status as a citizen. It's a free gift of resources based on moral principle, not saying one man's sweat is more valuable than another man's sweat.

The most classic formula popularized by Karl Marks is: from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs. Can you see the problem here? The problem I see is that people would purposefully underrepresent their abilities while presenting their wants as needs - it doesn't even need to be purposeful malice, it's human nature. With limited resources this must lead to a collapse at some point.

I also disagree that the fair distribution of resources results in people not working. Deep within most people is a passion for something. So much so that there are people who will actually pursue their passion no matter what. Even in Capitalism this manifests as "volunteer", "starving artist", "budding [insert profession here]", "hobby business" or "retirement" (pursuing passions without thought of money). Most people have a need to work with their hands, create and produce something. Socialism results in more people pursuing their passions.

The problem is, there are professions that require a lot of training, are very stressful and carry a lot of responsibility. Why would I be a doctor and take responsibility for human life every day when I can just grow crops on my little farm? Why would I be an architect and take responsibility for buildings built based on my design when I can be a painter and devote my life to art? As it is today, money is the motivating factor.

Redistribution of resources to fuel a renaissance of small business owners is better for society. Imagine doing business with people who actually want to be working doing what they love rather than asshole employees at major chains who give you shitty customer service because they don't really want to be there.

Here the problem is if every person is a small business owner there are no people to work for those businesses, therefore their potential to grow is very limited.
And you either end up with five groceries on a street, all competing with each other OR every form of business either owned or heavily regulated by the state, like in the Soviet Union.

Imagine every woman being able to breastfeed because she owns a small business that doesn't separate her from her baby. Imagine every father being available during the day to raise his children because he owns a small business that doesn't take him away from his children during the day. Corporate Capitalism can't give that to people.

Running a small business usually takes more time than your regular 8 hours workday. If you have your own thing, you're at work 24/7.

Both of those leaders didn't properly distribute resources then. It was failure to implement properly.

Power (over others) corrupts, we can't escape it.
If you want different forms of leadership, it's not socialism, it's collectivism or anarcho-collectivism.

There's no reason governments can't redistribute land so that every American has the opportunity to be a homeowner with land OR community gardens in cities become the right of every citizen so that food is in the control of the people.

Examples from history show that once government seizes something it's not that easy to take it back. Look at urban housing solution in the Soviet Union. People did not get any land nor the resources to build houses, they got crappy rooms "communal" (shared) kitchen and bathroom.

Speaking of socialism, please redistribute your shithole by DMing pics of your ass opening to all of us.

To each according to his needs.

It should be illegal for anyone to own more than 5 acres of land/per adult and 5 acres for each dependent.

You may find it interesting:
Persecution of land owners in Soviet Union
Resistance and social costs
Not to mention, when the government seized the land they did not give it away, they kept it and formed collective farms that employed previously poor \ landless people.

If grocery stores and housing complexes can find a way to regulate greed, so can governments.

It's more about laws of supply and demand than limiting greed. It usually applies to either desirable items being in short supply or highly discounted items. Shops use such items to attract customers (sometimes discounting them to the point of making net loss on them). The limit is imposed so they don't run out of the promotional merchandise that they use to attract customers to the shop.

 

[Chariot Of Mara]

Imagine returning to posts made at the beginning of the week and responding. Especially after already responding to posts made afterwards. Sure showing off that amazing diligence to respond to every shitpost with care.

 

[White Baby]

narcissistic dehumanization of women's sexuality AND narcissistic narrative

Hurts to be wrong, don't it?

 

[Dizzyuntildeath]

I appreciate all the hard work and research everyone is putting into this, but you know you're not going to educate her. Right?