Clayton Ray Huff / Dream / DreamOnPvP / DreamTraps / DreamAF / DreamXD / DeltaKnight / DreamSkilful / Clayman23 - Fat Minecraft Youtuber with fans that want to torture and rape him and are in denial that he's fat.

Is JacobTMK the Fatman?

  • Yes! It's a deadringer!

    Votes: 305 13.2%
  • No! That's Dream!

    Votes: 1,713 74.1%
  • It's neither of them!

    Votes: 295 12.8%

  • Total voters
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To Clayton, virtue signaling about Juneteenth is more important than sticking up for his supposed friend. He's playing a dangerous game here, not only is he too busy virtue signaling to stand up for his supposed friend, which will piss off the sane people, he's using the topic of Juneteenth, which will piss off black twitter crazies because it will remind them of the stuff that pissed them off not too long ago.

In other words, Clayton is fucking retarded.

He was better off not saying anything at all :story: It sounds like he doesn't even know what Juneteenth even is himself of just figured it would be "offensive" if he explained what it was himself. Either way, his "harassment" of a black lesbian might be brought up again because of this tweet lol
 
You bring up a very good point actually!

Dream should be stumbling over himself trying to defend Tommy. The main thing about the SMP is that Tommy was considered the "main character" in the roleplay writing for the longest time, and still is by the fans. Everybody associates the Dream SMP with Tommy since he's one of the few people on there with the charisma required for roleplay. Without Tommy, the SMP has no "main character" and because of that, nobody will watch half the streamers anymore because the interesting guy is gone, and Dream himself doesn't stream the SMP.

Tommy is legitimately the "main character" in both senses, not only in the SMP, but he's the main person keeping the SMP afloat, and if he's gone, the SMP dies or is at least severely hampered. I'd bet Clayton's torn between defending Tommy for that, and giving him to the wolves for his ego.
Pretty sure he said he had plans to leave the SMP too for the OriginSMP Wilbur made, I think? Somehow, he's still in the SMP though.
 
Wilbur is a spineless theatre kid suck up faggot with delusions of changing the world through whatever political subtext he was trying to insert into his writing and thinks he's changing the world by parroting the "it's your job to learn about it" and "you're coming from a position of privilege" shit.

Like who actually says that anymore? That shit was old on tumblr years ago. It was bad discourse and ended up being universally mocked. Did Wilbur miss all that?
I think he also claimed that "teenage girls can't enjoy anything without being made fun of", and if I recall, I think that was some shitty tumblr hot take back in 2015/2016. Of course his dumb fangirls started parroting his opinion even though no one gave a shit about it before until Wilbur said something. Now his fangirls use that argument if you try to shit on/criticize the MCYT fanbase or any fanbase filled with girls. It's a dumb take tbh, anyone on the internet will be made fun of regardless of their gender. I mean, teenagers are dumb in general. But if you're on the internet who happens to be a creep, a shittty person, and incredibly autistic about your interests, or all three, of course you're gonna be made fun of. And most of these MCYT fangirls fit those categories.
 
You bring up a very good point actually!

Dream should be stumbling over himself trying to defend Tommy. The main thing about the SMP is that Tommy was considered the "main character" in the roleplay writing for the longest time, and still is by the fans. Everybody associates the Dream SMP with Tommy since he's one of the few people on there with the charisma required for roleplay. Without Tommy, the SMP has no "main character" and because of that, nobody will watch half the streamers anymore because the interesting guy is gone, and Dream himself doesn't stream the SMP.

Tommy is legitimately the "main character" in both senses, not only in the SMP, but he's the main person keeping the SMP afloat, and if he's gone, the SMP dies or is at least severely hampered. I'd bet Clayton's torn between defending Tommy for that, and giving him to the wolves for his ego.
The DreamSMP is a ticking time bomb ready to explode at any moment now, and will cause the fall of mutiple MCYT youtube channels.
 
You bring up a very good point actually!

Dream should be stumbling over himself trying to defend Tommy. The main thing about the SMP is that Tommy was considered the "main character" in the roleplay writing for the longest time, and still is by the fans. Everybody associates the Dream SMP with Tommy since he's one of the few people on there with the charisma required for roleplay. Without Tommy, the SMP has no "main character" and because of that, nobody will watch half the streamers anymore because the interesting guy is gone, and Dream himself doesn't stream the SMP.

Tommy is legitimately the "main character" in both senses, not only in the SMP, but he's the main person keeping the SMP afloat, and if he's gone, the SMP dies or is at least severely hampered. I'd bet Clayton's torn between defending Tommy for that, and giving him to the wolves for his ego.
Doesn’t Dream tries to be the “edgy villain” (joker like) that his really popular with teenage girls nowadays (the surge in popularity of villainess centered shojo for exemple) in the Dreamsmp?

The thing is, this also seems to be the kind of character Wilbur and Quackity want to portray?
 
Doesn’t Dream tries to be the “edgy villain” (joker like) that his really popular with teenage girls nowadays (the surge in popularity of villainess centered shojo for exemple) in the Dreamsmp?

The thing is, this also seems to be the kind of character Wilbur and Quackity want to portray?
yes, emp lemon did this about people taking on traits of anti-heros and villains, give it a watch. Teenage girls like edge this fact is well known, though nowadays its mostly through the media they produce and watch.
 
My take on Tommyinnit and Wilbur is... Wilbur is a spineless theatre kid suck up faggot with delusions of changing the world through whatever political subtext he was trying to insert into his writing and thinks he's changing the world by parroting the "it's your job to learn about it" and "you're coming from a position of privilege" shit.

Like who actually says that anymore? That shit was old on tumblr years ago. It was bad discourse and ended up being universally mocked. Did Wilbur miss all that?

When you look into the logic these people follow, can no one in MCYT (apart from Badboyhalo of all people) see this whole drama is started by fuckin cloutseeking kids playing activist and pushing this twisted ideology which all adds up to "these groups cannot be criticised in anyway"

I feel bad for Tommy, imagine having another creator who's older than you, helped your channel and collabed with you many times tell you a bunch of circlejerking self-important kids on twitter are right, and will always be right, and you'll always be wrong

To bring it back to Dream though, I kinda hoped part of the reason he followed the ranblacks was to keep an eye on them, since they've widely been accused of harassing people. Maybe he was "ruling his stans with an iron fist"... But maybe he really is there just to sniff their farts.

I can only see this turning into an ideological conflict behind the scenes with the DreamSMP members. Perhaps we'll see people walking soon. If Tommy walks, the whole thing is probably over.

I 100% agree with this. From what I've seen Wilbur tries way too hard to be woke, and him telling tommy it's his job, etc. is a really shitty thing to do. Maybe it was just on stream so he could put up an act and please the stans, but even still, throwing what is supposedly one of his closest friends under the bus just to please the cloutchasing kids.

I also agree with you about Tommy, and I feel bad for the guy because from what I've seen he started Minecraft back in 2019 when it was first getting started again. I'm talking the likes of Lazarbeam, PewDiePie, LukeTheNotable, and to a lesser extent Dream, who all played quite a part in the "revival" of Minecraft as it is so called. None of these YouTubers have a batshit crazy fanbase (Dream would begin having one in 2020) so Tommy probably saw an opportunity to blow up in Minecraft content, which he was already doing to a lesser extent. From there he used the explosion of popularity in Skyblock to grow his channel, which eventually led to SMPEarth (where I believe he met other mcyt) then to the Dream SMP. The poor kid got pulled in too deep for his own good, and now it's beginning to show that he wasn't prepared for such a massive "standom".
 
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Hey wait a minute, they're speaking facts. Some of them are waking up. For those contexless, teenage streamer Tommy makes videos and streams with Dream. One of the members of the crew schlatt has been blasted for edgy humor, which he shrugged off. Deciding to be his own man, he essentially made fun of MCYT for how they were upset at schlatt for bullshit. As you may know, they ddidnt take kindly to that and tried everything from doxxing to multi paragraph essays analyzing his interestinalized racism. Whatever the fuck that means. Now he has deactivated as far as I'm aware and is visiting a therapist.

And they call us monsters. The kids 17 you retards.

Link to tweet: https://mobile.twitter.com/jellyhappening/status/1403845121452482562

Another thing to note is that mutahar weigh'd in. Bless him.
Here's your archive. Because you were too lazy to copy & paste a link into archive.vn
 
I still can't wrap my head around how anyone, even a kid like Tommy, would care or be emotionally affected by a bunch of randoms on Twitter who have no power and no influence over their lives at all.
Tommy is well aware of how much effort people have put into doxxing Minecraft youtubers. Last month there was a bunch of Kpop stans spreading Technoblade's dox, and we're in a thread with Clay's deed and tax info.

So it's not like the bunch of randoms on Twitter are completely harmless. Dude's probably terrified about his dox being found and spammed everywhere.
 
What the fuck do you mean less "main stans"? are you actually THAT retarded? Clayton had already proven that the majority of his beloved little kittens are deranged loons who would gladly murder-rape him and turn his corpse into a chair. You assume that there is no massive overlap between Clayton's stans and the rest of the DreamSMP's fanbase. You also failed to state that Clayton is also in the fucking fault on propagating this behaviour with the encouragement of fanart and inappropriate joke flirtations. Do not pin the blame on a literal kid, who just turned 17, playing vidya lego for the shit happening to him when he discouraged and condemned this type of behaviour before. You are making excuses for Clayton to not be involved when this is his chance to be a fucking decent human being for once and stick up to his friend in need. Please for the love of God shut the fuck up, you make me MATI with this massive heap of shit coming out of your mouth. For someone who claims to be the """""Voice of Reason""""" you're awfully moronic and the main source of this thread's bad ideas and shit takes.
this is the most deranged take ever you absolute moron. it is not like tommy has the same people drawing fucked up art of him and tweeting about KIDNAPPING HIM as well as drawing porn of him when like you said he is a minor. Clay is completely at fault for flirting with his guy friends when they all flirt back. it is not like half of guy teenage friend groups do not joke about fucking each other on a daily basis. normal friend groups call each other gay faggots though so that makes it okay. there are videos of them all joking about that shit far before they got big on youtube.

when tommy turns 18 in less then a year does that make him no longer immune from criticism you absolute chode? he is emotionally mature and everyone matures at different rates or did you not pass the fucking second grade. criticism does not mean i am blaming him i am pointing out that all the other creators most of which are OLDER then Clay you actual fuckwad have crazy stans as well. something that your brain will refuse to comprehend because of the absolute deranged cope medicine you take every day to make sure you still think Clay is the devil incarnate. you will say the same about me because you think pointing out the absolute undisputable fact that they all have stans independently is sucking his dick. in your same reply you mention and blame dream for shipping when Karl, Quackity, Sapnap, George and tons of others have said the same thing about not giving a fuck about shipping and most of them even have canonical GAY RELATIONSHIPS on the fucking dream smp even though they are straight. even fucking Ranboo and Tubbo who are both minors have a canonical gay relationship on the SMP and dream had nothing to do with it. where is your based take on them encouraging shipping? you should consider taking some normal pills so you are not such a fucking retard next time

what about Wilbur or Tubbo two of his best and in real life friends or what about George another one of his best friends and in real life friends? Wilbur basically backed up the stans on his stream and the stans rejoiced on twitter. the other two are completely silent. these are some of the most hypocritical takes that exist on this thread
 
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Okay, let's break this down for the people who don't speak autstic.

  • Fuckwad starts the post sucking Clayton's dick by claiming that Tommy doesn't have people drawing fucked up art of him or tweeting about kidnapping him. (He does, and he's asked people to stop several times)
The top video is more recent than the bottom one. Just giving context that shows him getting more and more uncomfortable with the stan garbage. (I grabbed these from compilation channels so please excuse the garbage editing, I don't want to scour the streams for clips)

  • Fuckwad then goes on to justify Clayton pretending to be gay for the stan clicks by claiming that normal friend groups flirt with each other and call each other gay faggots all the time. (Even though there is a difference between joking and retweeting and liking fanart of you and your friend kissing on your fanart account)
  • Fuckwad then goes on to whine about emotional maturity and second grade, and then to say that other creators have crazy stans as well, even though that wasn't the point.
  • Fuckwad then also claims that people here think that Clayton is the devil incarnate, which nobody does, we just think he's a fucking retarded nigger.
  • Fuckwad claims that these creators all have stans "independently" even though these creators are all linked via the fucking DREAMSMP.
  • Fuckwad then makes the irrelevant point about Karl, Quackity, Sapnap, and George being okay with shipping and having canonical gay relationships on the DreamSMP, even though that is not the point as we are speaking about a minor who does not want that shit.
  • Fuckwad then closes the post by insulting @Decepticon Spy by telling him to "consider taking some normal pills so you are not such a fucking retard next time"
  • Fuckwad has still not asked those questions he mentioned to Dream yet.
 
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this is the most deranged take ever you absolute moron. it is not like tommy has the same people drawing fucked up art of him and tweeting about KIDNAPPING HIM as well as drawing porn of him when like you said he is a minor. Clay is completely at fault for flirting with his guy friends when they all flirt back. it is not like half of guy teenage friend groups do not joke about fucking each other on a daily basis. normal friend groups call each other gay faggots though so that makes it okay. there are videos of them all joking about that shit far before they got big on youtube.

when tommy turns 18 in less then a year does that make him no longer immune from criticism you absolute chode? he is emotionally mature and everyone matures at different rates or did you not pass the fucking second grade. criticism does not mean i am blaming him i am pointing out that all the other creators most of which are OLDER then Clay you actual fuckwad have crazy stans as well. something that your brain will refuse to comprehend because of the absolute deranged cope medicine you take every day to make sure you still think Clay is the devil incarnate. you will say the same about me because you think pointing out the absolute undisputable fact that they all have stans independently is sucking his dick. in your same reply you mention and blame dream for shipping when Karl, Quackity, Sapnap, George and tons of others have said the same thing about not giving a fuck about shipping and most of them even have canonical GAY RELATIONSHIPS on the fucking dream smp even though they are straight. even fucking Ranboo and Tubbo who are both minors have a canonical gay relationship on the SMP and dream had nothing to do with it. where is your based take on them encouraging shipping? you should consider taking some normal pills so you are not such a fucking retard next time

what about Wilbur or Tubbo two of his best and in real life friends or what about George another one of his best friends and in real life friends? Wilbur basically backed up the stans on his stream and the stans rejoiced on twitter. the other two are completely silent. these are some of the most hypocritical takes that exist on this thread
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I still can't wrap my head around how anyone, even a kid like Tommy, would care or be emotionally affected by a bunch of randoms on Twitter who have no power and no influence over their lives at all.
With the stigma of doxxing, how these loons will not stop until they chase you off the internet completely, and that Tommy just turned 17 who has the burden of popularity with the wrong crowd in his shoulders. It makes a sense that he's acting erratically and in a state panic.
 
The DreamSMP is a ticking time bomb ready to explode at any moment now, and will cause the fall of mutiple MCYT youtube channels.
I said I wished Tommy would hurry up and get his damn disks back so the smp could finally end and I was informed that apparently he already did, back in January. On top of that Dream, as the main villain, was also "defeated", so why is it still going on at this point if the central conflict's already been resolved? Is it solely because of whatever Quackity is doing?
 
To Clayton, virtue signaling about Juneteenth is more important than sticking up for his supposed friend.
What is a black voice? Ooga booga gimme moneh wear dah wyte hoez at? Mah dique?

Does Clayton even know any Blacks? I don't recall anyone in this retard circle that's Black besides his Tyrone video. He sounds like the insufferable faggot from an all-White upper class gentrified plot virtue signalling to boost his ego and claim that he's totally not a racist.

Let's just ignore how demeaning this all sounds, listen because the mouth grew on a darker pigment of skin. Now on the contrary, why the fuck should we listen to Clayton then, that's not a "black voice"; or maybe it's counterintuitive to deduct individuals to a shade of colour?

This is his association of drugs with Blacks all over again. I throw slurs around like confetti, but niggers aren't the first things even someone like me would think of when drugs are mentioned, it's probably not even in top 10. It's probably something like a list of drugs, the bad effects, personal encounters with druggies (all of them were White in my case), some shitty hipster suburbs, cartels, gang violence, then Blacks. Is that even top 50?

This is your brain on a block game.
 
So Dream did a podcast with George recently? I guess there was no lolcow moments from it alas despite his stans making twitter unusable.
 
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