Clayton Ray Huff / Dream / DreamOnPvP / DreamTraps / DreamAF / DreamXD / DeltaKnight / DreamSkilful / Clayman23 - Fat Minecraft Youtuber with fans that want to torture and rape him and are in denial that he's fat.

Is JacobTMK the Fatman?

  • Yes! It's a deadringer!

    Votes: 305 13.2%
  • No! That's Dream!

    Votes: 1,713 74.1%
  • It's neither of them!

    Votes: 295 12.8%

  • Total voters
    2,313
I said I wished Tommy would hurry up and get his damn disks back so the smp could finally end and I was informed that apparently he already did, back in January. On top of that Dream, as the main villain, was also "defeated", so why is it still going on at this point if the central conflict's already been resolved? Is it solely because of whatever Quackity is doing?
They get to hang out and game with their friends, and it's been a creative writing exercise for Tommy, Wilbur, and Techno.

Given how the SMP itself is the least problematic part of MCYT, I'm fairly certain it's going to be the opposite situation. The SMP will probably be continuing in some form or another even after the creators start losing popularity.
 
I still can't wrap my head around how anyone, even a kid like Tommy, would care or be emotionally affected by a bunch of randoms on Twitter who have no power and no influence over their lives at all.
To be fair, those twitter randoms are either threatening him for daring to associate with someone they don't like, or they're writing and drawing deranged erotica about him. He probably also knows that those sorts of maniacs have a very real chance of finding out where he lives, as several others in the MCYT sphere have already been doxxed.

I certainly wouldn't blame him for being affected by what those randoms do.
 
They get to hang out and game with their friends, and it's been a creative writing exercise for Tommy, Wilbur, and Techno.

Given how the SMP itself is the least problematic part of MCYT, I'm fairly certain it's going to be the opposite situation. The SMP will probably be continuing in some form or another even after the creators start losing popularity.
If Tommy stays, then yeah the SMP will be fine, but there's no way people with as little charisma and backbone as CaptainPuffy and Awesamdude can carry the SMP without it ending up feeling like a zombie to the viewers.

I have to assume if Tommy leaves, there's going to be a few people that leave with him, and Dream is currently stuck in a hole as his character is "defeated" and in the prison and he also doesn't allow himself to stream the SMP himself due to not wanting to "overshadow the other streamers", and Dream doesn't have the charisma for roleplay either. It'll definitely stagger along ala zombie simpsons, but a lot of people will echo the sentiment of "remember when the Dream SMP was around? Yeah, it went down the drain when that Tommy guy left,"

To relate this back to Clayton, how does he expect this SMP to survive beyond Tommy? If he keeps up what he's doing the kid and his friend group, the few that have actual charisma on the server, are most likely going to leave and take the viewers with them, leaving only the most dedicated of stans. Even the more normal stans will stop watching because they're obsessed with Dream, but Dream doesn't stream. He keeps inviting more people in an attempt to douse the fire, like that fuckin "MichaelMcChill" guy or whatever from recently, but he's not inviting anyone who either isn't cardboard (Michael) or in Tommy's friend group (Slimecicle). It must really hurt Clayton's ego that his big SMP hinges on a fucking 17 year old.
 
What is a black voice? Ooga booga gimme moneh wear dah wyte hoez at? Mah dique?

Does Clayton even know any Blacks? I don't recall anyone in this retard circle that's Black besides his Tyrone video. He sounds like the insufferable faggot from an all-White upper class gentrified plot virtue signalling to boost his ego and claim that he's totally not a racist.

Let's just ignore how demeaning this all sounds, listen because the mouth grew on a darker pigment of skin. Now on the contrary, why the fuck should we listen to Clayton then, that's not a "black voice"; or maybe it's counterintuitive to deduct individuals to a shade of colour?

This is his association of drugs with Blacks all over again. I throw slurs around like confetti, but niggers aren't the first things even someone like me would think of when drugs are mentioned, it's probably not even in top 10. It's probably something like a list of drugs, the bad effects, personal encounters with druggies (all of them were White in my case), some shitty hipster suburbs, cartels, gang violence, then Blacks. Is that even top 50?

This is your brain on a block game.
Well, after the 🎵drugs🎵 fiasco, Dream did start following the Black Israelites of mcyttwt, the RBGC. Maybe this is just Clayton's way of distributing reparations to the oppressed minorities of Twitter. Truly a hero!

(More on RBGC here)
So Dream has been accused of rayciss, and our good friends at the Ranblack Groupchat have decided to capitalize on the scandal with a Twitter Space. If you don't know what that is, think a broadcasted Discord call but everyone is a pants-shitting "blacks can't be racist, gib reparations" retard. Based off of the app Clubhouse (which is equally shit), it's intended to be an exclusive, live experience, not a recorded one.

Anyway, here's a recording of their Twitter Spaces:
it starts a bit into the call but there's still an hour lol
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If this undiagnosed autism is interesting to you, that Discord server they mentioned might pique your interest.

Server Invite Link: https://discord.gg/GRQpjn8 (this will probably expire later)

Let's meet the wonderful visionaries behind the RBGC...
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I counted nine unique cashapps, good lord :story:

Bonus: they have a Minecraft server!
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I don't understand how zoomers can in one hand be the generation of post-ironic meta-humor but in the other hand need to announce when they start doing a bit. Nobody tell them that an inability to pick up on jokes is a sign of that aforementioned autismo we're all familiar with, they might add it to their bio and shill their cashapps and venmos twice as hard!

These people are something else, but hey, they're who Dream wants to pander to - I'm sure he knows what he's doing and this won't ultimately kill his platform. If anyone wants to archive all of the linked socials in the Discord screencaps and find dat funny shit, then be my guest, but I need to go take some headache medicine after sitting through a one-hour Twitter Space.
 
If Tommy stays, then yeah the SMP will be fine, but there's no way people with as little charisma and backbone as CaptainPuffy and Awesamdude can carry the SMP without it ending up feeling like a zombie to the viewers.

I have to assume if Tommy leaves, there's going to be a few people that leave with him, and Dream is currently stuck in a hole as his character is "defeated" and in the prison and he also doesn't allow himself to stream the SMP himself due to not wanting to "overshadow the other streamers", and Dream doesn't have the charisma for roleplay either. It'll definitely stagger along ala zombie simpsons, but a lot of people will echo the sentiment of "remember when the Dream SMP was around? Yeah, it went down the drain when that Tommy guy left,"

To relate this back to Clayton, how does he expect this SMP to survive beyond Tommy? If he keeps up what he's doing the kid and his friend group, the few that have actual charisma on the server, are most likely going to leave and take the viewers with them, leaving only the most dedicated of stans. Even the more normal stans will stop watching because they're obsessed with Dream, but Dream doesn't stream. He keeps inviting more people in an attempt to douse the fire, like that fuckin "MichaelMcChill" guy or whatever from recently, but he's not inviting anyone who either isn't cardboard (Michael) or in Tommy's friend group (Slimecicle). It must really hurt Clayton's ego that his big SMP hinges on a fucking 17 year old.
so the question then is why doesn't he stream? Is there a broader reasons? He gets like twenty thousand people months back when he out of nowhere decided to just stream himself playing Minecraft without even announcing it. So clearly people do want to hear his voice. Why doesn't he stream? No way a guy with the ego of Dream is avoiding it just because he doesn't want to overshadow everyone.
 
Great video thanks for sharing although I was hoping to learn more about the antihero obsession of society these days.
Simple: people think the concept of a badass dude who could care less about the people around him is cool and they want to relate to that.
 
so the question then is why doesn't he stream? Is there a broader reasons? He gets like twenty thousand people months back when he out of nowhere decided to just stream himself playing Minecraft without even announcing it. So clearly people do want to hear his voice. Why doesn't he stream? No way a guy with the ego of Dream is avoiding it just because he doesn't want to overshadow everyone.
If I had to hazard a quick guess, it would be that he wants to feel like he caused all these streamers success via the outlet of DreamSMP, when in reality most of these streamers are fucked when the 17 year old leaves the server.

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As I was going over Sapnap's twitter account, I noticed that not only did him and Dream tweet about Juneteenth near the same time, but they even used the same "Juneteenth from a black person" tweet.
Imagine having to coordinate your friend's virtue signaling to line up with yours. :story:
 
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Simple: people think the concept of a badass dude who could care less about the people around him is cool and they want to relate to that.
Yeah, Tumblr-Twitter has a bit of a thing for characters like that. It's part of the whole meta that "Tumblr historians" discuss.
 
If I had to hazard a quick guess, it would be that he wants to feel like he caused all these streamers success via the outlet of DreamSMP, when in reality most of these streamers are fucked when the 17 year old leaves the server.
It’s so weird how Clayton seems to have it stuck in his head that he made these people. They were already successful and climbing up in the world, he just accelerated an inevitable process. For an entire series based around dynamics of the characters/people over the plot usually, he doesn’t seem to get the characters/his friends at all.

Even off the story, he doesn’t understand that the dynamic is what made them successful, not the fact that they were associated and that brought about their fame. It was the chemistry. Chemicals don’t start reactions until you make them get in contact with one another, and relationships in stories and in real life work the same way too.

There’s so much he doesn’t say that speaks just as loud for him, and it’s hyper-abundantly clear that he believes he’s the star of the show when at best he’s a host.
 
Okay, let's break this down for the people who don't speak autstic.

  • Fuckwad starts the post sucking Clayton's dick by claiming that Tommy doesn't have people drawing fucked up art of him or tweeting about kidnapping him. (He does, and he's asked people to stop several times)
I said the opposite that he does as well despite him telling them to stop. that is my point. it happens no matter what can be done even dream has told people to stop sexualizing minors and to not draw fanart of minors. it does nothing it would be just as efficient as him coming on here and telling people to stop doxing him.
  • Fuckwad then goes on to justify Clayton pretending to be gay for the stan clicks by claiming that normal friend groups flirt with each other and call each other gay faggots all the time. (Even though there is a difference between joking and retweeting and liking fanart of you and your friend kissing on your fanart account)
for all we know he does not even run the fan art account he has mentioned someone running it on a stream before though in a joking way. I doubt that he has the time to sit down and retweet art and even if he did he has made it clear many times that he finds it funny. you might not but they all do. Sapnap and george openly said that they read heatwaves a gay fanfic about George and dream together and Clay has still said he has never read it on many occasions. you have a huge problem with two guys being straight and finding gay art of them funny?

  • Fuckwad then goes on to whine about emotional maturity and second grade, and then to say that other creators have crazy stans as well, even though that wasn't the point.
the point that has been made throughout this thread thousands of times is that everything that happens in the minecraft space is Clay's fault and any time anything with stans happens to other creators who cultivate stans as well it is also his fault

  • Fuckwad then also claims that people here think that Clayton is the devil incarnate, which nobody does, we just think he's a fucking retarded nigger.
  • Fuckwad claims that these creators all have stans "independently" even though these creators are all linked via the fucking DREAMSMP.
the devil incarnate is not the best way to put it, but everyone assumes the worst and puts blame for basically every single bad thing that happens on him. what do you call that?

as for the "DREAM SMP" it was literally named that by Tommy and a lot of the creators had huge fanbases and stanbases before the SMP. Wilbur was a part of SMP live and was active during the whole carson fiasco. they are all linked but they also all have their own independent stans and fans. Tommy is by far the biggest streamer on it and Clay streams the least out of all of them as mentioned many times on this thread before. how does what you say show that it is all his responsibility and his fault?

  • Fuckwad then makes the irrelevant point about Karl, Quackity, Sapnap, and George being okay with shipping and having canonical gay relationships on the DreamSMP, even though that is not the point as we are speaking about a minor who does not want that shit.
it is not like we have bashed on Clay again and again on this thread for 'shipping with his friends' and were blaming him for it happening to Tommy. Clay has on stream on multiple occasions spoken out about shipping minors and drawing fanart of minors and said that it is disgusting he even made a tweet about it. I was pointing out that tons of others on the smp INCLUDING minors and best friends of tommy encourage that behavior. despite that i have seen post after post saying how fucked up it is that 'dream lets this happen'. it is hypocritical and you disregarding all my comments by saying it is 'not the point' when it has been the point in hundreds of comments on here is just as retarded as the previous comment

  • Fuckwad has still not asked those questions he mentioned to Dream yet.
I did not mention anything to him i was considering it and i mentioned in my previous posts concerns about this becoming more and more of a dox thread. that was before people on here doxed other people on the smp. I still would consider it but seeing the reaction people have to any opinions that funnily enough deviate from the herd on here has made me not want to.
 
I did not mention anything to him i was considering it and i mentioned in my previous posts concerns about this becoming more and more of a dox thread. that was before people on here doxed other people on the smp. I still would consider it but seeing the reaction people have to any opinions that funnily enough deviate from the herd on here has made me not want to.
>complaining about doxing on the kiwi farms.

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I said the opposite that he does as well despite him telling them to stop. that is my point. it happens no matter what can be done even dream has told people to stop sexualizing minors and to not draw fanart of minors. it does nothing it would be just as efficient as him coming on here and telling people to stop doxing him.
No you didn't Fuckwad. You didn't say that. You said this:
this is the most deranged take ever you absolute moron. it is not like tommy has the same people drawing fucked up art of him and tweeting about KIDNAPPING HIM as well as drawing porn of him when like you said he is a minor.
 
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for all we know he does not even run the fan art account he has mentioned someone running it on a stream before though in a joking way. I doubt that he has the time to sit down and retweet art and even if he did he has made it clear many times that he finds it funny. you might not but they all do. Sapnap and george openly said that they read heatwaves a gay fanfic about George and dream together and Clay has still said he has never read it on many occasions. you have a huge problem with two guys being straight and finding gay art of them funny?
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it is not like we have bashed on Clay again and again on this thread for 'shipping with his friends' and were blaming him for it happening to Tommy. Clay has on stream on multiple occasions spoken out about shipping minors and drawing fanart of minors and said that it is disgusting he even made a tweet about it. I was pointing out that tons of others on the smp INCLUDING minors and best friends of tommy encourage that behavior. despite that i have seen post after post saying how fucked up it is that 'dream lets this happen'. it is hypocritical and you disregarding all my comments by saying it is 'not the point' when it has been the point in hundreds of comments on here is just as retarded as the previous comment
George and Sapnap are Dream-related, so that doesn't count. Quackity has also said he wasn't comfortable with shipping himself with his friends in a stream where he was reading x Reader fanfiction. Tubbo does not like shipping. The shipping thing is a bit in the DreamSMP anyway, and the stans who do take the ships seriously are autistic as fuck. Plus, they aren't actual plausible couples that might happen in real life like what Dream and George keep teasing. [quackity] [tubbo]

EDIT: Dream has only called minor shipping out, like, once? Where else has he said to "not ship minors or draw nsfw of minors"? I can only think of one tweet where he's said that.

Sources or gtfo you fucking retard.
 
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If I had to hazard a quick guess, it would be that he wants to feel like he caused all these streamers success via the outlet of DreamSMP, when in reality most of these streamers are fucked when the 17 year old leaves the server.

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As I was going over Sapnap's twitter account, I noticed that not only did him and Dream tweet about Juneteenth near the same time, but they even used the same "Juneteenth from a black person" tweet.
Imagine having to coordinate your friend's virtue signaling to line up with yours. :story:
Who the fuck cares about Juneteeth?
 
I did not mention anything to him i was considering it and i mentioned in my previous posts concerns about this becoming more and more of a dox thread. that was before people on here doxed other people on the smp. I still would consider it but seeing the reaction people have to any opinions that funnily enough deviate from the herd on here has made me not want to.
"Stop dawxxing people and disagreeing with me and maybe I'll pass on your questions to him :smug:"

Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I'm starting to think he doesn't actually know Clayton at all!
 
To relate this back to Clayton, how does he expect this SMP to survive beyond Tommy?
The only ones I can think of are Ranboo because he also has stans that are obsessed with him [more than Dream's stans believe it or not, he's had to restate his boundaries multiple times and they still have no regard for them] and Technoblade who just kinda shitposts there I guess [but he might leave with Tommy, plus he's sort of been moving on to other things].
 
The only ones I can think of are Ranboo because he also has stans that are obsessed with him [more than Dream's stans believe it or not, he's had to restate his boundaries multiple times and they still have no regard for them] and Technoblade who just kinda shitposts there I guess [but he might leave with Tommy, plus he's sort of been moving on to other things].
I think technoblade would also be a big lost for the server aswell since I personally believe he is one of the head writers that keeps the story going. We know dream cant.
 
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