Exactly I think are fellow Kiwi miss what I said
Basically, yes. Filoni is better at pleasing his own fans than some of the EU authors were at pleasing fans of the EU characters. Filoni just goes for pure fanservice and gives his fans what they want. Fans of Mara, Jacen, Jaina, and Revan got shit thrown in their face and were told to like it. SW fans being battered housewives was a thing long before 2014 and the canon reset. People tend to forget that because of the Disney EU and Sequel Trilogy, but that was the truth of it. Fans of the legacy characters were getting pissy with LOTF, Revan fans, which comprise a large majority of Old Republic fans, were angry with SWTOR at how their homeboy got treated, the EU fanbase was already at its wit's end with Lucasfilm before the canon reset occurred.
Why reply if you're not going to address what I said and repeat the exact same argument again?
Yes he gives his fans pure fanservice. But they love that shit.
I've already discussed at great length why Ahsoka's utilization past Season 5 of TCW is a horrendously written mess, and I've discussed it with you in particular. I made most of my grievances with her use in both Rebels and TCW S7 on that page in multiple quotes, so please refer to those, because I'm not typing them all again.
It's Lord Imperator. He never ingests the arguments he's responding to, or makes any rebuttals to specific points being made. He just spews out the same word salad of exhausted points until he's red in the face.
Ahsoka fanboys traditionally are creepy coomers who sexualize her as as a tween girl or teen girl, hence pedophiles. This is also one of the most vocal elements of the remainder.
He only broke Thrawn, dozens of other characters, and supported Luke's destruction in TLJ.
I'm not, and I've seen many others ITT and irl who aren't either. I haven't given Disney a dime since Rogue One and don't ever plan to, even if they'd shit out a SWTOR cinematics-tier series about KOTOR or invent a time machine and bring back the young OT cast to shoot an NJO series. Again, Disney made a point to tell my kind we're -ist/phobes and nostalgia fags and that they don't want our dime. Why the hell would I willingly line their pockets ever again?
I don't think Karpyshyn owns any rights to Revan/KOTOR or has any pull or say with EA or Lucasfilm. They could tell him to turn Revan into a handicapped niggertroon and he'd have to comply.
Ok I get your point. But you have to understand the only way Ashoka fans would stop watching Filoni's stuff. Is if he fucks the character over like what happen to Raven.
This. I'm just amused at watching crack addicts justify why the poison laced rock sold by the sweaty dealer intentionally cutting down on his drug-to-filler ratio is totally fine to consoom.
Oh shit I frogot about that. I as somebody who grew up and watch the Clone Wars. I loved Ashoka as a character. It wasn't until I got older and learned of the internet did I find out about all the porn with Ashoka who was a teenager. I was horrified as someone who liked the character that fans were making sex fics with her when she was still a teen. Thanks for reminding me I think I legit block it out of my head.
That's your choice, and I respect that. But I'm not going to sit here and just agree with the choir that Dave Filoni is the spawn of Satan when other EU writers have treated us EU fans worse.
No. Drew Karpyshyn did that to Revan BEFORE the sale to Disney. BEFORE the EU wipe. He could have given Revan a story that respects the character or at least, gives him a nice send-off. Instead, he opted to insult the lot of us Revan fans by shitting all over him and making him the Jedi equivalent of a dog with rabies that has to be put down.
I'm not justifying anything. I'm not saying that you have to consume any Disney media at all. I'm just jealous that, as a fan of Revan and Mara Jade, my favorite characters got the shaft from the beloved EU authors while the tweens who get wet seeing Ahsoka Tano onscreen get spoiled by the guy who helped make her.
They've been drug addicts even before the EU was wiped. EU authors shat all over fan-favorite characters, and even the OT characters on occasion. (Karen Traviss shat on Obi-Wan by making him a glory hound, for instance, and LOTF made the entire OT cast act like morons) Why would they change their attitude even when the franchise changes hands? At least Disney was honest when they told the fans to go fuck themselves, unlike EU authors who pretended to respect the legacy of characters that they helped mold and shape, only to destroy them or make them fools.
And yet Ahsoka fanboys get treated better by Dave than Mara Jade and Revan fanboys were treated by the EU authors.
A great example Jacen Solo Turning to the dark side and not even getting a chance to redeem like Darth Vader was pretty shitty to do to fans.
Not to mention the man became ONE WITH THE FORCE in his battles against the Vong. That's the last guy who should turn to the Dark Side. He should have been the next Luke Skywalker, if anything. Succeeding his venerated uncle as leader of the Jedi Order. Instead, he became an even worse version of Anakin while his sister was turned into the bottom bitch of some rando whom her father defeated when he was BLIND.
Technically, yes.
Yeah, most Star Wars Fans have to do some serious mental gymnastics to delude themselves into consooming in my observations.
He doesn't though and you're being deluded by saying stuff like that, trying to abuse argumentum ad populam with no proof and cherrypicking examples and ignoring his own spree-killings to try and justify this hottake.
Be careful what you wish for.
Not what I'm seeing everywhere. All he does is make more stuff that has the normies getting wet.
They probably will screw it up. But at this point, I hardly care anymore. As I said, being a Star Wars fan is like being a battered housewife; if it's not Disney telling us to go fuck ourselves, it's the EU authors shitting on beloved EU characters in a way far worse than the OT cast were treated in the Sequels.
His only active show normies care about he's not even the sole show runner. He has Favreau conflicting with him on that one. The shows fans liked are years old and in one case had Lucas at the helm.
Ignoring of course that Dave's on an industrial scale with his character murder.
Ignoring of course the also fairly dead and minimal reaction Bad Batch gets.
This is of course why you're trying to die on this hill.
That would be TCW, and yes Filoni does work with others. At least he can work well with others unlike some other EU author I won't mention.........
Er, no he isn't. The characters he has, the normies like, and the more he gives them what they want, the more they get wet and want for more. Nothing Dave has done can ever come close to how other EU characters got sodomized.
Not really. People actually wanted more of TCW, which Dave obliged by giving them the Bad Batch. Also, the later seasons of TCW were more under Dave's control. Notice how things like pacifist Mandalorians began to disappear in the later seasons, replaced solely by warrior Mandos that Dave and Jon Favreau love to put on. And the fact that Ahsoka walked away unscathed in Season 5 and survived the Clone Wars in Season 7 was a clear sign that Lucas lost control in the later seasons of the show. Lucas would have probably killed her in the later seasons of the show to set up Anakin's inevitable fall. Maybe in Seasons 5 or 6.
Not from what I'm seeing on Youtube and online. Fan reaction has been OK so far, even though the plot makes little sense to me.
Compared to how the KOTOR fanbase reacted to SWTOR, or how fans of novel characters from the OT EU reacted to Legacy of the Force and the later EU set in that timeline, YES, Filoni is an improvement. As I said, he's nowhere near the level of James Luceno or the better EU authors, but what he lacks in style, he more than makes up for in fanservice, which is raking in both views and money.
Because as an EU fan, I'm a battered fanboy who has nothing more to lose. I envy the Ahsoka fans and the fans of the Filoniverse who actually get what they asked for. We asked for KOTOR 3 and more Revan for years, and they respond to us with an MMO that has Revan be put down like a dog with rabies. We wanted more adventures with Mara Jade and Jacen Solo, and one gets stuffed in the fridge like a side character from a comic book, while the other gets turned into a worse version of Anakin with even less reasons to turn evil before being put down like Old Yeller. At this point, disappointment is in our blood. Even before Disney came in and told us to fuck ourselves. Hey, at least they were honest about it.
