Ethan Klein / h3h3Productions - Opportunistic, two-faced e-celeb sperg with a penchant for hypocrisy and an Oedipus complex; sold out to Susan Wojcicki, the incompetent CEO of YouTube

[+MarkOuttaBat+]

It could've very easily backfired on Ethan, but instead Crowder made the dumb decision of playing into it perfectly and running away, making it Ethan's win.
Ethan won by sacrificing his trust and integrity, though it wasn't much of a sacrifice as it was already low.

Ultimately, Crowder did have the right to leave. He agreed to a one on one, not a two on one. Although I agree he could have gone out with more tact. People are acting like this is a win for the left, but it is only a matter of time those same people will get the same treatment.

 

[shit talker]

h3 pretty much effortlessly made a bag and made crowder look like a whiny bitch at the same time. I’m not a leftist but crowder is a chubby manchild and deserves to be laughed at. Who takes that retard seriously?

 

[InsolentGaylord]

It could've very easily backfired on Ethan, but instead Crowder made the dumb decision of playing into it perfectly and running away, making it Ethan's win.
Ethan won by sacrificing his trust and integrity, though it wasn't much of a sacrifice as it was already low.

So basically he won but now looks like a cowardly douchebag?

That's not really winning lol.

 

[M3453dst324]

Who wore it better?

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lol how does Ethan look worse in his own thumbnail???
Chowder is a bro choosing a angle to hide the double chin and neckbeard

 

[Self-Aware-Neckbeard]

You misunderstand me.
I did not mean that Ethan should not be mocked, I just think that, when it comes to internet drama, one has to admit that not everything a lolcow does is pathetic for themselves. You know, actually not being an A-logger.
Ethan is not funny, smart, or even entertaining. Even so, I believe that he did something really funny for once, even if he himself doesn't deserve all that much credit.

I also expected better from you all - this being a respectable forum dedicated to documenting lolcows. But I guess I was wrong...

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[Red_Cap]

h3 pretty much effortlessly made a bag and made crowder look like a whiny bitch at the same time. I’m not a leftist but crowder is a chubby manchild and deserves to be laughed at. Who takes that retard seriously?

I don't know if there's a right way to back out of an arrangement once it's been made clear that terms are not being honored. At that point backing out is backing out and if people want to complain about the kind of spectacle that a person made while doing so, that's their prerogative I guess.

Crowder's not as funny as he thinks he is and his skits are dumb. Full disclosure I watch the show and it's half-decent background noise. Landau and the lawyer are funny, but not as funny as sucking Ethan's dick to dig at Crowder some more.

 

[Self-Aware-Neckbeard]

Honestly, if Ethan had just been up front about bringing on a +1 with actual experience discussing politics that may have mattered. I wouldn't want to bring on someone for an adult conversation only for them to dump their hyperactive 8 year old on me. Doubly so for Crowder, considering one slip of the tongue could provide Youtube with an excuse to delete his channel.



I don't think Ethan or his current fanbase care about whether Ethan was in the right. Ethan is, so far as I can tell, selling himself as some sort of master troll for having no integrity.

Do you realize that if Ethan had told Crowder, he would not have debated Sam? Because, you know, Sam isn't a college student.

 

[Neil]

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Wow so that was beyond pathetic. Ethan agrees to a 1 on 1 debate then brings on some cringe random leftoid to debate for him. Ethan lost the small bit of respect I still had for him. Imagine if someone agreed to go onto his show and instead they sent Sam Hyde or Keemstar in their place. You just know Ethan would have a bitchfit for days.

The point is that it would be funny to watch Ethan squirm in that situation, much like how it was funny to see Stephen have a panic attack and flip his shit when Seder was brought on and then pearl clutch as much as he could about being crashed, then grasping at straws to sling random shit at Seder and bringing up Trisha Paytas's mental illness and Ethan's tics. Stephen himself did the same thing to Chunk Yogurt from The Young Genocide deniers. It's called doing a little trollgeing. It's for comedy.

Can you people quit pretending Crowder gave a fuck at all about "decorum"? His whole act is based around being as brash crude and politically incorrectly MANLY, why cry like a woman and meltdown? Be a manly man and tackle the other guy like a manly man. Crowder knew Ethan was planning on bringing Seder on for weeks. Crowder even did his own research into Sam Seder, he himself knew Sam's subcount, looked for Seder's standup, etc etc. Stephen lied about his pregnant wife's having a medical emergency coincidentally around the first time they were scheduled to stream because he knew Seder was lurking.

Ethan's a profiteer, he gives as much of a fuck about decorum or "integrity" as Crowder does. They only care when it suits them. Ethan got his coin from satisfying people who wanted to see Sam Seder confront Crowder + an additional panic attack from Crowder where he yelled his way through Sam's appearance and hid behind his sidekick.

Crowder only cares about decorum or integrity now because he gets to look like a victim who was tricked by le shady velveteen rabbit eyed j00 ethan klein to his audience.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

Ethan having a pleasant conversation with Crowder about their children before pulling his stunt says all you need to know about Ethan, really.

Crowder didn't have a meltdown; he was simply a man who was pissed. His yelling was more than justified, especially with Seder and Ethan trying to yell over him first and not at all letting up on it. I can relate-- I have a temper myself, and I don't like it when I'm disrespected either. And hell, I find it hilarious that Crowder predicted that this would happen, too. You know the old saying, "If you want to piss off a conservative, tell them a lie. If you want to piss off a liberal, tell them the truth"? This entire thing is the embodiment of this stereotype, and it's pretty damn funny.

Ethan's actions are the actions of a shit talking child telling someone to meet them behind the school at 3PM for a fight, and then bringing his older brother to fight for him. Anyone who applauds his actions are spineless children, too. Of course Ethan's fans think it's OK to bring someone else in to fight for them. Dignity? What is that even? lol.

Again, I fail to see how Crowder "lost" this. And again, I fail to see how or why Crowder should have entertained these two jackasses after they so obviously disrespected him. They didn't deserve his time the second Seder started throwing the insults-- it showcases that Seder was never at all on board with a cordial discussion or debate with Crowder in the first place either.

 

[Self-Aware-Neckbeard]

The point is that it would be funny to watch Ethan squirm in that situation, much like how it was funny to see Stephen have a panic attack and flip his shit when Seder was brought on and then pearl clutch as much as he could about being crashed, then grasping at straws to sling random shit at Seder and bringing up Trisha Paytas's mental illness and Ethan's tics. Stephen himself did the same thing to Chunk Yogurt from The Young Genocide deniers. It's called doing a little trollgeing. It's for comedy.

Can you people quit pretending Crowder gave a fuck at all about "decorum"? His whole act is based around being as brash crude and politically incorrectly MANLY, why cry like a woman and meltdown? Be a manly man and tackle the other guy like a manly man. Crowder knew Ethan was planning on bringing Seder on for weeks. Crowder even did his own research into Sam Seder, he himself knew Sam's subcount, looked for Seder's standup, etc etc. Stephen lied about his pregnant wife's having a medical emergency coincidentally around the first time they were scheduled to stream because he knew Seder was lurking.

Ethan's a profiteer, he gives as much of a fuck about decorum or "integrity" as Crowder does. They only care when it suits them. Ethan got his coin from satisfying people who wanted to see Sam Seder confront Crowder + an additional panic attack from Crowder where he yelled his way through Sam's appearance and hid behind his sidekick.

Crowder only cares about decorum or integrity now because he gets to look like a victim who was tricked by le shady velveteen rabbit eyed j00 ethan klein to his audience.

It frankly astounds me that people don't understand that.
Ethan is a scummy little shit, but he barely pretends to have any integrity in the first place.

Crowder built himself as the macho man who can take on anyone anytime. He got decked by a union worker and all but cried because of - wait for it - being challenged into a debate with.... some dude? If this is the standard for masculinity, then it is no wonder soyboys are everywhere.

Also, people talk about this debate shit as if it is some serious legal contract or something.
This is just two retards screaming at each other through a screen. This is nothing, just some fun spergatory,
Crowder lost his temper? What kind of loser takes this shit seriously enough to lose his temper? Is pretending to be a bitch boy losing his temper? Does this not sound fucking ridiculous to you?

 

[janedoe]

i dont see how anyone could consider this a win for ethan

like this is just the equivalent of two retards fighting except one retard has to get their tard wrangler to do it for them.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

Hurr durr "Crowder only debates college students!"

Yes, because Crowder forces those college students to talk to him, obviously.

Also, since when are college students defenseless? Last time I checked, they vote. If they're so unprepared and uninformed, then maybe we should raise the voting age. Everyone should stop acting like they're defenseless children. These students volunteer themselves to go talk with Crowder, and these students appear to be very confident in their opinions. Looks like Crowder is doing the job that university professors won't: He's encouraging debate and discussion, which is what college used to be about.

The "defenseless children" on the Change My Mind segments have more integrity and guts than Ethan Klein does. Change My Mind.

 

[CWC-in-the-minds]

Crowder is a repressed faggot and a barely functioning retard but Ethan and Sam are eternal Jews. To people wonder who why Jews are universally despised, look no further than these 2.

 

[DrearyDoomguy]

Do you realize that if Ethan had told Crowder, he would not have debated Sam? Because, you know, Sam isn't a college student.

Then why didn't he, so he could take his up front refusal and clear any doubt? Going back on a prior agreement is exactly how you give the opposing party plausible deniability.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

Then why didn't he, so he could take his up front refusal and clear any doubt? Going back on a prior agreement is exactly how you give the opposing party plausible deniability.

This.

Most of us agreed several pages ago that Ethan could have easily gotten his "W" if he had told Crowder the debate conditions that he wanted beforehand.

 

[Neil]

Ethan having a pleasant conversation with Crowder about their children before pulling his stunt says all you need to know about Ethan, really.

That "pleasant conversation" was because Crowder used his wife as a convenient excuse to back out of the debate last week. Later in the stream he admitted that he was monitoring Seder's podcast to see when he ended the show to see if Seder really was going to crash the debate and pulled out after.

Crowder didn't have a meltdown; he was simply a man who was pissed. His yelling was more than justified, especially with Seder and Ethan trying to yell over him first and not at all letting up on it.

Absolutely incorrect. They didn't yell over him first. I watched both the version by Crowder and H3, Crowder started yelling when Seder's face popped up.

Again, I fail to see how Crowder "lost" this. And again, I fail to see how or why Crowder should have entertained these two jackasses after they so obviously disrespected him. They didn't deserve his time the second Seder started throwing the insults-- it showcases that Seder was never at all on board with a cordial discussion or debate with Crowder in the first place either.

Easy, he gave Ethan the money he wanted by screaming like a child for 10 minutes when confronted with Sam Seder.

Don't be disingenuous and pretend that Crowder didn't throw insults of his own. Seder came on and said "It's about issues, let's talk isuses", Crowder immediately started by yelling over Seder and demeaning him through subcount or whatever else he could find. For chrissakes, he ended off by going "teehee ecksdee you have widdle j00 rabbit eyes". Crowder isn't some noble honourable champion of ethics and morals. Don't pretend he is. That's his appeal to his audience.

Ethan wanted Crowder to meltdown like a nuclear core at the sight of Sam Seder, Crowder did. Ethan made his coin and got a million+ views in less than 24 hours.

I don't know in what world where losing your cool like Crowder did and throwing a 10 minute tantrum is "winning"?

No ground was made, and that wasn't Ethan's intention. He's there for the money and nothing else. Expect him to antagonize more right wing grifters for more coin. Antagonism and spergouts is how Ethan pays the bills. Being diet Jerry Springer is way more profitable than interviewing literally-who pop stars like they did the podcast before.

 

[Rabidcolombian]

Finally watched the debate so future lolcow historians don't have to.

Crowder can be a sperg - I like his videos but he does have a history of it and I'm not going to deny it even though I'm right wing. That said:

Ethan won the beginning - Crowder was incredibly nervous possibly more due to not knowing what stunt Ethan was going to pull. You could tell by his body language, it's obvious to see. It was when Sam and Ethan were the most laid back and relaxed.

Crowder won the middle - Crowder gained more confidence with the help of leprechaun cohost but overall held it on his own. He stated his stances smoothly and was rabid with the quick witted insults. Also made his side about the "dodge" on the past debate sound more believable than Sam's story.

Crowder won the end - Ending the conversation and not giving this dude the time of day. The one thing Sam wanted was to debate Crowder - the left like to call Crowder cold feet because of it. It seems Crowder ducking debates from Sam has less to do with him being afraid and more like Crowder knows this pisses Sam off the most.

But what the hell do I know? The left says I'm coping.

HIGHLIGHTS:

Ethan: Stop showing your little leprechaun co-host!

Steven: Sam, fake stand up comic no one can find footage of online -
Sam: I'm not a comedian.
Steven: That make sense because everything I've seen is unfunny and unentertaining.

Sam: How did you know I ended my show early last week?
Steven: Because you're an idiot and half of your staff hate you.
Leprechaun: Because I'm a die hard fan.

(After the repeats of Sam and Ethan telling Steven not to hide behind his co-host)
Steven: Before we go, will you take off your glasses, Sam? I wanted to see if you have the velveteen rabbit buttons.
Leprechaun: Or if there's a soul.
Steven: Don't hide behind the glasses, Sam.

Ethan: Steven, you're wearing a holster!
Steven: So?
Ethan: .....

Ethan...in internet blood sports you don't say nothing to that.
You say "So you look like a fucking idiot." Crowder wanted to have a serious debate but you brought IN the internet blood sports. In internet blood sports no one gives a shit about "intellectual" debates, especially with a nerd like Sam. It's who can make the other seem like the biggest dipshit and Steven pulled it off just because he threw more which happened to be better.

BIGGEST OWN:

Sam: Do you think your audience cares how many subscribers I have?
Crowder: My audience would say Sam who?

How true is that shit? I didn't know who the hell Sam was before this and I've already seen so many conservatives ask the same thing.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

That "pleasant conversation" was because Crowder used his wife as a convenient excuse to back out of the debate last week. Later in the stream he admitted that he was monitoring Seder's podcast to see when he ended the show to see if Seder really was going to crash the debate and pulled out after.

Absolutely incorrect. They didn't yell over him first. I watched both the version by Crowder and H3, Crowder started yelling when Seder's face popped up.

Easy, he gave Ethan the money he wanted by screaming like a child for 10 minutes when confronted with Sam Seder.

Don't be disingenuous and pretend that Crowder didn't throw insults of his own. Seder came on and said "It's about issues, let's talk isuses", Crowder immediately started by yelling over Seder and demeaning him through subcount or whatever else he could find. For chrissakes, he ended off by going "teehee ecksdee you have widdle j00 rabbit eyes". Crowder isn't some noble honourable champion of ethics and morals. Don't pretend he is. That's his appeal to his audience.

Ethan wanted Crowder to meltdown like a nuclear core at the sight of Sam Seder, Crowder did. Ethan made his coin and got a million+ views in less than 24 hours.

I don't know in what world where losing your cool like Crowder did and throwing a 10 minute tantrum is "winning"?

Firstly, calling his wife a "convenient excuse" is gross. Miss me with that.

Secondly, you don't think that anyone on Crowder's team was monitoring the Seder podcast for him? Crowder has an entire team of people for a reason. Crowder has even missed his own damn show a few times in recent weeks because of the baby situation and his upcoming heart surgery.

Did you watch the video that Crowder posted of the shitshow? Crowder knew what was going to happen, and the second he was proven right, he justifiably got mad. And Seder was being a cunt from the get-go, too.

 

[ManletPower]

It frankly astounds me that people don't understand that.
Ethan is a scummy little shit, but he barely pretends to have any integrity in the first place.

Crowder built himself as the macho man who can take on anyone anytime. He got decked by a union worker and all but cried because of - wait for it - being challenged into a debate with.... some dude? If this is the standard for masculinity, then it is no wonder soyboys are everywhere.

Also, people talk about this debate shit as if it is some serious legal contract or something.
This is just two retards screaming at each other through a screen. This is nothing, just some fun spergatory,
Crowder lost his temper? What kind of loser takes this shit seriously enough to lose his temper? Is pretending to be a bitch boy losing his temper? Does this not sound fucking ridiculous to you?

It went from "Yes, I'm not biased as the jackasses in this thread dedicated to shitting on Ethan" to you making several BIASED replies about how muhhh Steven bad muhh steven not macho, even bringing in years old incident about the union worker.

"Crowder lost his temper? What kind of loser takes this shit seriously enough to lose his temper?"
You are one of those losers who constantly try to mock others for "taking this too seriously" but yet you've made several comments about Crowder already because people on this thread think h3h3 came across as a much, much bigger coward. Surprise, it's literally a thread about h3h3 and the lolcow that he is. Have some self awareness, weirdo.

"Also, people talk about this debate shit as if it is some serious legal contract or something." It's called common sense. When someone lies to you and wastes your time, it's somewhat reasonable to not be too happy about it. I know a person like you doesn't understand basic human interactions but internet can be useful for autists like you to read more about it without having to socialize.

You are either severely mentally ill or you are cognitively impaired. Probably both to be honest.

 

[mandatorylurk]

Watching Crowder's version of it he not only called that Ethan backed out, but Sam would be the gotcha debater. Crowder should have stuck to his point about the CDC and waited for the two twats to start with the insults before leaving (that Ethan did immediately with his Spartans were gay jab).

This whole thing is the smug mask over crying face meme for Ethan.

Dave did drop a great insult on Hila. When Ethan said Dave looked like a Leprechaun he said “at least as a sidekick I don’t sound like Helen Keller still learning how to read and talk”