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Ethan Klein / h3h3Productions - Opportunistic, two-faced e-celeb sperg with a penchant for hypocrisy and an Oedipus complex; sold out to Susan Wojcicki, the incompetent CEO of YouTube
The way Steven reacted was like seeing a man going on an episode of Jerry Springer and getting a surprise visit from the guy who diddled him as a child.
I have never seen him react the way he did to Sam and it was fucking funny.
Also Steves first mistake was even agreeing to debate Ethan in the first place. What a fucking idiot.
this is some weird cope I see going around. You guys live in another reality. Crowder's only reaction of shock was to Ethan telling him some subversive buttsex joke about Romans in response to a question about the CDC which was the only thing Ethan answered btw. He starts calling Ethan out as dodging the debate before Seder ever appears on his screen and at that point knew some high-powered jewery was coming his way. On his show today, Crowder even played a clip from before the debate where he says he doesn't think Ethan wants to do this and expects trickery and even mentions Seder's name as a possible ringer. God, I feel like a faggot for even having to stick up for Crowder, but you guys are just awful and don't even care about the truth at all.
this is some weird cope I see going around. You guys live in another reality. Crowder's only reaction of shock was to Ethan telling him some subversive buttsex joke about Romans in response to a question about the CDC which was the only thing Ethan answered btw. He starts calling Ethan out as dodging the debate before Seder ever appears on his screen and at that point knew some high-powered jewery was coming his way. On his show today, Crowder even played a clip from before the debate where he says he doesn't think Ethan wants to do this and expects trickery and even mentions Seder's name as a possible ringer. God, I feel like a faggot for even having to stick up for Crowder, but you guys are just awful and don't even care about the truth at all.
Ethan is a slimy cocksucker, he's been posturing to get Crowder kicked off of Youtube for a couple weeks now. Going into what happened in the aborted "debated" I was heavily biased because of this. I'm shocked that anyone can see that fat manchild as anything but a slimy fuck. I guess the tribal nature of politics tends to color damn near everything, maybe that's one of the reasons. The "other side" just can't get a win. Hell, the "other side's" loss has to be bigger no matter what.
Honestly, Crowder should haven't even attempted to debate this faggot, but his ego probably got the best of him. Ambushing the guy like he did was a slimy move, but if you are a fan of ethan I can see how you could find it funny.
Can we just get back to ripping on him for having an ugly wife, not being able to fuck his wife, rip on him for having a broke dick, and for being such a dumb fat faggot?
I can see Crowder as a clown without needing to misinterpret situations and acting like some braindead leftist who thinks Crowder has any fear of this random nodoby kike. I don't like Crowder, but he didn't get punked here. Ethan punked himself and proved that he has no honor at all.
I can see Crowder as a clown without needing to misinterpret situations and acting like some braindead leftist who thinks Crowder has any fear of this random nodoby kike. I don't like Crowder, but he didn't get punked here. Ethan punked himself and proved that he has no honor at all.
And that bothers you that much? I'm not here to stick up for Crowder, but who the fuck cares that Crowder interviews college students and proves how retarded and indoctrinated 95% of them are? The fact this is such a threat or some injustice is really sad and shows massive insecurity. The reality is Ethan made dumbass political statements, contacted Crowder for a debate(not the other way around) and even agreed to no misdirections or kikery. Crowder treated him fairly and was even nice to him. Spinning this as Crowder somehow getting btfo in any fashion requires mental gymnastics and treating Ethan as some comedic mastermind which is just hilarious in itself.
p.s. Seder is a random nobody and should be referred to as such.
I remember when I used to watch H3H3 thinking there was a certain charm to Hila.
Now, she’s arguably just as insidious as her obese husband. Her regression into teenage dangerhair and increasingly self-righteous sperging is actually really sad to see as opposed to just being lol-worthy.
Why leftists are comparing college students giving their consent, siting and debating calmy without any constraints to a grifting e-celebs who try to insert himself ? That’s retarded. College students and professors are technically part of the smartest people in United state. They are not defenless babies who cannot articulate their own thought. You could ask "So, in his Change my mind, why most of his oponent are retard?" It is quite simple: Dunning–Kruger effect, the stupidest students overestimate their debate skills and have more chance to decide to site and talk with Crowder. It is not Crowder's fault if idiots are always the loudest. That don't seem someone giving Crowder a taste of his medecine to me.
That being said, I think Crowder is a retard, so I'm quite surprise that nobody have own him yet. Nobody is not the exact word, because a random natsoc, Yusef (cf. Change my mind: socialism is evil), have made him loss his cool. Some of Yusef's argument was not good, but just the fact he have his owns opinions and was not some cookie-cutter SJW was sufficient to make him loss it. Plus, Crowder is slimy and his Change my mind are full of shit and shitty tactics. From memory, I can list three of them.
Everytime he talks about Québec, he lies (cf. his videos about canadian healthcare system) and knows he can get aways with it, because his audience is mostly unilingual english speaking americain who don't care enough. He don't care about what french canadians think, because they are not his targeted audience.
When his opponent have more profound disagrement, he ends the conversation.
On one hand, Crowder claims that Change my mind is educational and encourage civil discourse. On the other hand, he focus on his opponent's mistake and meltdown like a bread dead reality show.
I would love more than anyone to see Crowder humiliated, but it is simply not the case. The fact some people think it is an humilation puzzle me.
This right here is a very valid take and let me explain to all the retards, that seem to be suffering from Steven Crowder hate boner syndrome, why that is the case. You might learn a thing or two if you cared about making Crowder look bad in front of a neutral audience (not talking about the mentally ill leftists)
(Also I seem to be noticing very obvious pattern here. They always start off with "ETHAN and STEVEN are both CLOWNS BUT.... *insert reasons why Crowder came out as a joke*.. It's pretty obvious what they're trying to do, portray themselves as some sort of neutral party thus your takes are somehow unbias)
So the example @LeCoq has used made Crowder look bad due due to multiple reasons:
- He has this segment where Students WILLINGFULLY agree to a 1 on 1 debate and the debate he had with Yusef really made him look bad. Steven got visibly shook and started desperately clinging unto Yusef's words such as "OH YOU SAID AUTISTIC???" which is kind of ironic coming from a comedian that makes fun of fragility of other leftists. Yusef remained calm, engaged with arguments only and ultimately this is one of debates that was used against Crowder many times, rightfully so.
- This ultimately proves that being a student does not mean you can't make sound well researched arguments and clown on Crowder (I mean, only a retard would think that.).
Now, the problem with H3h3 and Crowder debate is that:
- The only thing Sam Seder/H3H3 cucks appeal to is emotionally overloaded arguments in order to try and portray Steven as the bully in the situation and in order to try and make their argument sound more legitimate. Example of this being is "CROWDER the dude with HUGE ego that is destroying students left and right and makes fun of the leftys that are brainless according to him therefore he should debate him regardless of anything". This obviously fall flat when Crowder and H3H3 have BOTH made videos of defaming each other, made fun of each other but then pre-debate Crowder's leaked DMs come out where it was more than obvious that Crowder was the one giving H3h3 praise for coming on and agreed to "1 on 1" debate, which is literally the same condition Crowder has for the students debate.
- Steven Crowder has a show that has it's own production costs so ultimately, not anyone is entitled to air time. I understand that the cucks never have dealt with producing a show like that but ultimately, if someone comes crashing into your show and you haven't agreed to it - the host has all the legitimate reasons to escort you out since he's the one that have arranged it . Those are the same cucks that I guarantee you had problems with Steven crashing on Cenk's panel (which I thought was retarded).
- The student debates are OPEN for anyone to attend. If those cucks really wanted to call Steven a coward, they'd attend those debates & let someone else film the debate in case Crowder would edit it out. If Crowder REFUSED to debate that (since he obviously agreed for anyone to step in and debate the issues + it would happen on his own platform) then yes, indeed he'd be a coward.
Now here's some thought experiment: Do you think the same cucks would call those students COWARDS if somehow Crowder would invite someone else to do debating for him and then start shouting "coward" at students for backing out? Lol obviously not, but their derrangement syndrome is more than apparent.
The leftist circle jerking bias idiots think this is W for their Twitter Team but unfortunately Sam Seder (as of now) only has 77k views on his Crowder segment and he'll quickly diffuse into irrelevance since his higher viewer content only seem to dependant on leeching of others.
I definitely think there's been a clear mental and creative decline in Ethan over the years. He used to make videos mocking Pepsi and YouTube for their soulless corporate shilling, and they were genuinely funny and filled with good gags and good points. Now he makes videos arguing with other YouTubers and telling Momma Wajinski not to give them ad money.
If spelling is the only thing you're going to go after then that makes you look quite desperate.
No, if you actually read what I said (which you quite clearly didn't). I made it quite clear that Seder obviously has a much, much smaller audience and if his more popular content (which this segment obviously was) will depend on leeching unto others, he'll quickly return back to his usual views numbers. And, I haven't painted him as a coolheaded skeptic in my argument against him (which was his debate with Yusef) but I guess you didn't read past 2 sentences.
Shame that this thread about a fat jew who can't even get a erection and had to get backup for a shitty debate against a sub 80 iq retard got overrun with a bunch of the trump threads idiots
1) Politicon organizers? Some names would be nice, because otherwise it's just rumors. And it's really fucking hilarious that you would trust Gavin McInnes, but wouldn't give Crowder benefit of the doubt, that's RICH.
Either way, it's not even a question whether Crowder, among others, are avoiding Ceder - dude is like an obsessive stalker. His whole shtick is goading people who's more prominent than him into "debates", it's clear that no one should give this cuck a time of day.
It's the implied reason, that people who refuse to give him platform are supposedly "afraid" of "debating" him. All the while there's a different, completely justifiable reason as to why people don't want him around - he's a grifter, and ultimately not interested in any sort of good faith discussion. There's no point in giving him what he wants, as I said before. Best you can do is tell him to fuck off.
"Challenged"? Interesting that you put everything in the adversarial context here. Ethan was invited to talk and sort out ongoing autistic feud like adults, giving him opportunity to defend his position. Instead he pulled this gay ass shit, and him being retarded does not justify it. He betrayed trust extended to him.
It's irrelevant whether Ethan is stupid or not, there was an agreement in place. He's an adult and was supposed to honor it.
To you Crowder's entire motivation seems to be to dunk on easy prey to impress stupid conservatives, instead of a good faith discussion, and you view everything through that lens. It's your problem, honestly.
Ethan deserved ridicule he got over his stupid comments, and acted like a goddamn child since. He ain't a victim.
This is just ridiculous. I've watched plenty of these, I don't remember Crowder high-fiving his crew over owning some college students.
He just sits down and talks about specific topic. What you call "rehearsed specific talking points" is called an argument, if you didn't know. You could argue whether they're wrong, but then you'll have to be specific. It's all conjecture on your part, you ascribe malicious intent while it's entirely plausible that there's none.
I've had enough of this shit. I don't like him as much to justify spending all this time defending him, and whatever you might think of me, I'm confident that I'm being fairly objective here.
I don't harbour animus toward him, that's about it.
Edit: Correction. Ethan was actually the one who reached out to Crowder, according to released emails.
I don't think there's anything to be gained by discussing Crowder further with you in this thread. I never said Ethan was a victim of Crowder being malicious (although referring to a discussion Crowder said was going to be a 'layup' as a good faith discussion is a bit funny). I just thought this was a pretty funny troll. This outcome is way funnier than a real debate between Crowder and Ethan. They're both morons. I'm not interested in a debate between the two of them.
The only other thing I'm going to say on the topic is that if you watch "change my mind," and what you see is a good natured, good faith discussion between two people rather than Stephen Crowder dialogue treeing unprepared college students through his pre-rehearsed talking points, anything I say about Crowder to you is like talking to a brick wall.
If spelling is the only thing you're going to go after then that makes you look quite desperate.
No, if you actually read what I said (which you quite clearly didn't). I made it quite clear that Seder obviously has a much, much smaller audience and if his more popular content (which this segment obviously was) will depend on leeching unto others, he'll quickly return back to his usual views numbers. And, I haven't painted him as a coolheaded skeptic in my argument against him (which was his debate with Yusef) but I guess you didn't read past 2 sentences.
Shame that this thread about a fat jew who can't even get a erection and had to get backup for a shitty debate against a sub 80 iq retard got overrun with a bunch of the trump threads idiots
Ethan: Hugh mungous? Bro... Yikes... What are you, like a... [eyebrows have a seizure] ... a rapist or something? I mean come on. That's kinda rapey... bro.
Hila: [slightly spins from side to side in chair while looking at desk] ...yeh...
[faint laughter from employee in the background]
I can't name a single person Ethan has "collaborated" with, been influenced by, or associated with that hasn't eventually turned on him, or turned their backs on him. Literally everyone I can think of has either had an issue with him live, behind the scenes, or has shit talked him afterwards.
Sam Hyde?
Anything4views?
Jontron?
Joji?
Bill Burr?
William Osman?
Trisha Paytas?
Shoenice?
Who likes this dude at this point aside from Susan Wojcicki?
To put this into perspective, all of the h3 podcast's greatest "hits" are from 3 years ago or feature Trisha. The old shows are popular because they feature guests like Filthy Frank, Jordan Peterson, or Shane Dawson. This is with the invariable algorithmic boost that H3 gets by being youtube's snake in the grass.
14/24 of these are Frenemies videos. It's no wonder this dude is so angry, hes the weak link in the chain, on his lazy ass.
I don't think there's anything to be gained by discussing Crowder further with you in this thread. I never said Ethan was a victim of Crowder being malicious (although referring to a discussion Crowder said was going to be a 'layup' as a good faith discussion is a bit funny). I just thought this was a pretty funny troll. This outcome is way funnier than a real debate between Crowder and Ethan. They're both morons. I'm not interested in a debate between the two of them.
The only other thing I'm going to say on the topic is that if you watch "change my mind," and what you see is a good natured, good faith discussion between two people rather than Stephen Crowder dialogue treeing unprepared college students through his pre-rehearsed talking points, anything I say about Crowder to you is like talking to a brick wall.
