Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

You think he'll detrans? Could be a possibility doesn't look like he's gone to the same efforts contra has. If he detrans, at this point what could he revert without permanent damage?
Physical? Probably, if he isn't taking severe HRT and doesn't undergo any of the highly dangerous experimental surgery - SNIP SNIP, stink ditch installation, FFS, trach shave.
His sanity and public picture is inevitably going to take damage.
 
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Nipple and breast tissue growth won't be reversible. Infertility can definitely happen, but it's not a sure fire thing. Penile shrinking can also occur and to a greater or lesser extent is irreversible - it's a result of atrophy though (androgen blockers + oestrogen stop spontaneous erections), so if Ollie's wanking on the regular there'll probably won't be as much shrinkage, although HRT can get rid of the ability to have erections at all - and some detransitioners report erectile dysfunction long after they've come off HRT. The NHS might offer testosterone replacement therapy to help, but that essentially means your balls have atrophied and you're not able to produce a normal male amount of endogenous testosterone.
 
Olly makes a cringe appearance here at 46:10 as a Fairy, yes you read that right.

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Nipple and breast tissue growth won't be reversible. Infertility can definitely happen, but it's not a sure fire thing. Penile shrinking can also occur and to a greater or lesser extent is irreversible - it's a result of atrophy though (androgen blockers + oestrogen stop spontaneous erections), so if Ollie's wanking on the regular there'll probably won't be as much shrinkage, although HRT can get rid of the ability to have erections at all - and some detransitioners report erectile dysfunction long after they've come off HRT. The NHS might offer testosterone replacement therapy to help, but that essentially means your balls have atrophied and you're not able to produce a normal male amount of endogenous testosterone.
I was really suprised to hear how permanently lowered FtM detransitioners voices are.
i dont undertand how voices work at all though, but yeah its pretty jarring to hear sucha. low voice coming from a female mouth.
Wonder if its the other way round too? Really dont get how that all works.
Does anyone know what the little lizard emoji a certain section of detrans peple on twtter use in thier screen names means?

Olly makes a cringe appearance here at 46:10 as a Fairy, yes you read that right.

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eugh.
worked out today why i hate this new incarnation even worse than the previous, posh male softcunt one.
I've never really had to have anything to do with those kind of males, but his female form just reminds me of a certain breed of horrible female head of year/deputy headteacher.
cold, unfeeling, threatening femininity only in its representation for use that is self beneficial.
Nothing actually nurturing or kind, or even strong in a real sense. Just painting a face of makeup on a sgt major and barking orders to mask dangerous insecurity.
 
I was really suprised to hear how permanently lowered FtM detransitioners voices are.
i dont undertand how voices work at all though, but yeah its pretty jarring to hear sucha. low voice coming from a female mouth.
Wonder if its the other way round too? Really dont get how that all works.
Does anyone know what the little lizard emoji a certain section of detrans peple on twtter use in thier screen names means?
FTM is very different, as testosterone has a much bigger impact - it thickens the vocal cords, so permanently changes the voice. FTMs going on oestrogen after puberty don't get a voice change, because oestrogen doesn't make the vocal cords thinner - their endogenous testosterone has already permanently thickened them. That's why trans women have to do "voice training".

Testosterone also has permanent impacts on clit growth (it won't shrink back), male pattern baldness (as in, coming off testosterone won't make your hair come back if you've started losing it) and facial hair - testosterone permanently changes the facial hair follicles, so the facial hair growth won't be as much, but if you've been on testosterone for a while then detransitioning will still mean some facial hair.

🦎 is supposed to be a salamander, which can regrow its tail that has been cut off, which detransitioners relate to.
 
FTM is very different, as testosterone has a much bigger impact - it thickens the vocal cords, so permanently changes the voice. FTMs going on oestrogen after puberty don't get a voice change, because oestrogen doesn't make the vocal cords thinner - their endogenous testosterone has already permanently thickened them. That's why trans women have to do "voice training".

Testosterone also has permanent impacts on clit growth (it won't shrink back), male pattern baldness (as in, coming off testosterone won't make your hair come back if you've started losing it) and facial hair - testosterone permanently changes the facial hair follicles, so the facial hair growth won't be as much, but if you've been on testosterone for a while then detransitioning will still mean some facial hair.

🦎 is supposed to be a salamander, which can regrow its tail that has been cut off, which detransitioners relate to.
hmm, do you reckon ITS MA'AM just never bothred with voice training, or like...if Agigale* got really fucking angry, the voice would come right back out?

reminds me of a certain breed of horrible female head of year/deputy headteacher.

(and Nurse Ratchet, how could i forget. it's not sexy, Ol.)
 
Olly makes a cringe appearance here at 46:10 as a Fairy, yes you read that right.

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Slightly off topic, but Dan Howell? I remember when he and his pal Phil Lester were at the height of their popularity as comedy Youtubers, I knew there was something off about them as they did seem to appeal to the Tumblr addicted, woke teenage girl audience, then the whole coming out thing happened and rather than just being gay but not making a big deal of it (both Dan and Phil are IIRC, but they aren’t/weren’t an item) they leaned into the whole LGBT identity politics thing and used cringeworthy terms like “baby queer” (meaning a person who’s newly out). So it’s no surprise Dan and Olly are in cahoots with one another.
 
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You think he'll detrans? Could be a possibility doesn't look like he's gone to the same efforts contra has. If he detrans, at this point what could he revert without permanent damage?
I think he detrans, just when it becomes popular enough on YouTube. Some of those detrans youtubers racks in mad views and he would again be allowed to talk to the press about how hard it was for him to realise he had other problems bla bla bla. Then all the terrible effects will just add to the sadness of his story. If the left also is going strong about being pro-trans, he can be a good example of a detrans that goes against the Terf argument.
 
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Olly spoke at Trans Pride London. I haven't found a recording yet but the quotes people have posted are eye-roll inducing. Also Olly wore his womanly heels for the entire march, as any sensible and empowered woman would tee hee! Shout-out to Olly for doing womanhood better than any woman could despite being a man! You go girl! So worth it!
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Olly spoke at Trans Pride London. I haven't found a recording yet but the quotes people have posted are eye-roll inducing. Also Olly wore his womanly heels for the entire march, as any sensible and empowered woman would tee hee! Shout-out to Olly for doing womanhood better than any woman could despite being a man! You go girl! So worth it!
Candid photos are extremely transphobic. Without the benefit of angles and filters, his inate mannishness is on full display.
 
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Olly spoke at Trans Pride London. I haven't found a recording yet but the quotes people have posted are eye-roll inducing. Also Olly wore his womanly heels for the entire march, as any sensible and empowered woman would tee hee! Shout-out to Olly for doing womanhood better than any woman could despite being a man! You go girl! So worth it!
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Built like a fucking fridge
 
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