Taliban offensive of 2021 and collapse of Afghan government.

[Coleslaw]

His son is probably going to stop the Taliban or die trying.
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And to those who think communism is a good idea look no further than the Saur revolution 40+ years of conflict could have been avoided if that never happened.

Daoud Khan should never have been overthrown.

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

Are we going to go back to soccer stadium AK executions for women showing their ankles? That really use to make the feminists reee

 

[AnimeGirlConnoisseur]

Are we going to go back to soccer stadium AK executions for women showing their ankles? That really use to make the feminists reee

No, reeeing to that would be racist.

 

[FAQnews Correspondent]

I can assure you that the CIA has more money than it knows what to do with.
We’re in Afghanistan for MUH GREAT GAME reasons. 19th century logic.

All this geopolitical shit seems to have gotten a whole lot less interesting and a whole lot more retarded after the end of the cold war.

 

[Coleslaw]

While I support withdrawal I can't help but feel bad for the current Afghan government.

 

[No. 7 cat]

The Democratic Republic of Afghanistan (the Soviet invasion was to overthrow Hafizullah Amin who appeared to the paranoid Soviet leadership to be going rogue from the Communist bloc, but Amin thought almost to the last moments of his life that the invaders were perhaps Americans and he was hoping the Soviet Union could help) might be a slight parallel. It actually survived the Soviet withdrawal and could have survived longer were it not for the collapse of the Soviet Union which meant it could no longer fuel its helicopters, fixed wing aircraft, tanks and APCs, plus pay bribes or tributes to local potentates. One reason too for the fall of the Republic - the explicitly Communist Democratic Republic was dropped in 1987 - is that some northern Uzbek and Tajik leaders withdrew their support and hunkered down with Gen. Dostum obstructing the efforts of the last Communist President to escape). Anyhow, the point I hope to make is that the present government will last while US money keeps flowing. Now its ruling ideology, compared to the old Communist state, a sort of watered down Islamism, isn't particularly good except for drawing in local warlords with their hands out for bribes.

The Tajik and other minorities like the Taleban little, but without US taxpayer money, the present Islamic Republic of Afghanistan would survive except as a flag of convenience for Uzbek or Tajik minority militias and others who won't accept the Taleban. One thing at least is that most of that white is lightly populated. Another result of ridin' with Biden.

 

[Stoneheart]

these Afghan women are just picking up an AK-47 or other rifle in their colorful outfits that draw the eye. The fact most of these women are actually masked makes me believe this is more propaganda

Well the taliban arent a good fighting force either. also muslim woman are less retarded than muslim men(genetics keeps females closer to baseline IQ).
well motivated they cold defend their villages.

 

[Ancient Pioneer]

https://twitter.com/TGhazniwal/status/1408817139939643395#m

I rotated the motorcycle one, it was vertical and sideways. Most of the major highways between Khandahar, Kabul and Herat are plagued with Taliban highwaymen and the three cities are cut from each other. There are military actions from the Afghan Government happening but they just cannot be everywhere at once.

Apparently the Taliban captured 85 of these men who are deemed "Commandos," more likely militia and gave them a bit of cash and told them to go home after they surrendered. This leniency is going to cause more defections and surrenders once word spreads about how generous the Taliban forces are being. The deputy leader of the Taliban put out notice that "War booty" is limited to weapons and gear captured from military units only, anyone caught plundering or raping civilians would be dealt with severely: http://alemarahenglish.net/?p=47280

New Map showcasing recent gains and current contested areas:

Its now impossible to travel from one city to another without passing through Taliban controlled or contested regions, they're also being cut off on the borders so each city will become cut off from everything that is not airlifted aid.

 

[Bad Gateway]

War is based, right wingers are such soy cucks now lmao

 

[potato in mah painus]

New Map showcasing recent gains and current contested areas: View attachment 2297095

Its now impossible to travel from one city to another without passing through Taliban controlled or contested regions, they're also being cut off on the borders so each city will become cut off from everything that is not airlifted aid.

without intervention this is over, government forces will be overrun by the end of next week or sooner.

 

[atleast3letterslong]

without intervention this is over, government forces will be overrun by the end of next week or sooner.

We did it guys!!!

 

[Ancient Pioneer]

without intervention this is over, government forces will be overrun by the end of next week or sooner.

I wouldn't expect that, the government is going to be giving up vast amounts of land but this will take better part of the summer to happen, the government is going to have a lot of hold out pockets that will probably last until next year, how long these pockets of resistance will last is unknown, we already witnessed this kind of blitz with ISIS initially then they hit a brick wall of resistance that required heavy attrition to break through. I'm waiting for the Afghan Government to figure out what regions can be saved and consolidate it into some sort of defensible perimeter, all we've seen is tepid military actions to liberate this or that district only for it to immediately fall out of control once the army unit leaves the village.

 

[Piss Clam]

There is a video of a US Captatin telling the afagain police to stop abusing 10-12 year old boys.

The taliban (pakistan) will stop young girls from going to school and abuse young boys....this is what is going to happen when we leave...

Afghan 'Dancing Boys' Tell Of Rape, Abuse

In Afghanistan, impoverished boys are being forced into a life of abuse as a result of bacha bazi – dancing boys – an old practice that sees wealthy or power...

www.youtube.com

 

[fine tooth comb]

There is a video of a US Captatin telling the afagain police to stop abusing 10-12 year old boys.

The taliban (pakistan) will stop young girls from going to school and abuse young boys....this is what is going to happen when we leave...

Afghan 'Dancing Boys' Tell Of Rape, Abuse

In Afghanistan, impoverished boys are being forced into a life of abuse as a result of bacha bazi – dancing boys – an old practice that sees wealthy or power...

www.youtube.com

you've got it the other way around, the taliban are the ones who put an end to bacha bazi before the US came in to enforce drag queen story hour

 

[The Curmudgeon]

The sooner we're out, the better. We wasted 20 years trying to socially engineer a country at gunpoint. Some people tried to rationalize this nation building by comparing it to Japan, but Afghanistan's situation was always very different from Japan's. 20 years occupying the shithole country amounted to nothing. Anothter 20 or more years would also amount to nothing. We CAN'T fix Afghanistan nor should we have ever tried to. Are the Taliban awful? Of course they are, but that doesn't justify staying in Afghanistan indefinitely to enforce an artificial peace that wasn't meant to be. The only real solution is to leave and let the various peoples of Afghanistan and their neighbors figure things out. We may not like it, but that's irrelevant. Most of the people backing the war for misguided reasons were never affected by what happens in Afghanistan in the first place. It was alway just a fantasy sport to the chickenhawks and ideologues.

I'm not sorry for how I feel. I used to support this war a long time ago, but over time realized it's a stupid quagmire. The best thing the United States, and its allies, can do is leave.

 

[SuzukiToyota]

Fall of Saigon 2.0 but this time there won't be news reports about it.

 

[Hellbound Hellhound]

The US effort in Afghanistan was doomed to fail for the simple reason that the tribal mentality of the people there makes functional statecraft impossible. Another big problem is that the US military has to hold itself to rules of engagement that the insurgents they're fighting have no interest in observing, and when civilians inevitably do get caught in the crossfire, the Americans (being the invaders) receive most of the blame, regardless of culpability.

I can understand the logic of wanting to prevent the country from once again falling to theocratic nihilists and becoming a breeding ground for international terrorism, but as far as nation building goes, Afghanistan seems to be a lost cause. We're not talking about a salvageable civilization like Germany or Japan here; we're talking a society which is still firmly stuck in the Dark Ages.

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

The other problem is that Afghanistan is very multinational and various allegiances

Imagine if the world warped back to the 90s.

How far? 1990 where there was still Soviet Union or 1995 when Grunge ended? If it’s 1990 will the Soviets have one last shot this time?

 

[Prester John]

Background: In 2020 the Taliban came to an agreement with US President Donald Trump to halt attacks while the American military withdrew from the country, the deadline being May 1st 2021. The Biden administration found itself unable or unwilling to complete the withdraw in this timeframe and set a later date of September 11th, the twenty year anniversary of the attacks on NYC and D.C. The Taliban rebuked the American government and has begun an offensive starting on May 2nd 2021 with a declaration that the American government broke the terms of the treaty. The attacks have only intensified since and the Taliban have begun to rout Afghan National Army forces whom have begun surrendering en masse in a similar fashion witnessed during the ISIS expansion of 2015.

In the past 72 hours the Taliban offensive has captured over 50 districts -- nearly 20% of the country and has closed off the major border crossing to Tajikistan.

Control Map:
Red: US Backed Afghanistan government
White: Taliban Controlled regions
Green: Pakistan -- patron of Taliban financially and materially
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If only Biden had withdrawn American forces on May Day as promised, the Taliban wouldn't be conquering the country.

 

[Random Internet Person]

The sooner we're out, the better. We wasted 20 years trying to socially engineer a country at gunpoint. Some people tried to rationalize this nation building by comparing it to Japan, but Afghanistan's situation was always very different from Japan's. 20 years occupying the shithole country amounted to nothing. Anothter 20 or more years would also amount to nothing. We CAN'T fix Afghanistan nor should we have ever tried to. Are the Taliban awful? Of course they are, but that doesn't justify staying in Afghanistan indefinitely to enforce an artificial peace that wasn't meant to be. The only real solution is to leave and let the various peoples of Afghanistan and their neighbors figure things out. We may not like it, but that's irrelevant. Most of the people backing the war for misguided reasons were never affected by what happens in Afghanistan in the first place. It was alway just a fantasy sport to the chickenhawks and ideologues.

I'm not sorry for how I feel. I used to support this war a long time ago, but over time realized it's a stupid quagmire. The best thing the United States, and its allies, can do is leave.

The US effort in Afghanistan was doomed to fail for the simple reason that the tribal mentality of the people there makes functional statecraft impossible. Another big problem is that the US military has to hold itself to rules of engagement that the insurgents they're fighting have no interest in observing, and when civilians inevitably do get caught in the crossfire, the Americans (being the invaders) receive most of the blame, regardless of culpability.

I can understand the logic of wanting to prevent the country from once again falling to theocratic nihilists and becoming a breeding ground for international terrorism, but as far as nation building goes, Afghanistan seems to be a lost cause. We're not talking about a salvageable civilization like Germany or Japan here; we're talking a society which is still firmly stuck in the Dark Ages.

Honestly, I can see Washington justifying keeping troops there because they don’t want the place to fall to Russia because they’re stuck in the Cold War. Meanwhile, China’s right there for their initiatives, and when you have people like The Taliban running the show, it’s not a matter of if they’ll make an attack on the US, but when.