Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

Just a thought about Olly thinking himself the most famous trains-man in the UK and the speculation that he did it to improve his acting career - What's he going to do about Rebecca Root? Will Olly really do well competing for roles against someone else trans who has been in big stuff like Queen's Gambit, The Danish Girl, Colette, The Sisters Brothers, and Last Christmas and is staring in their own TV show?

Also my favourite part of his Pride speech was when he said "It should be illegal for Contrapoints to not have sex with me"
Totally forgot about him! See that is how you go stealth even as an known trans/actor has anyone watched Boy Meets Girl recently? I mind seeing it in the days before on demand streaming and when troons were rare, sad sympathetic figures.
 
why does he think his followers care about who he is fucking?!
why act like this??
are any of the replies playing along being baited into speculation?
if anyone deserves gettinga. fucked up stink ditch and not being able to fuck ever again, its him. but he wont. and we knwo why
(side note i think all trannies should never bother with 'bottom surgery', just drink your own kool aid and dont give af that a woman has a dick or whatever)
he is the only one i'd advise it to

just went for a gander, and saw people blithley playing along, talking about thier own nobodies.
nobody fuckingcares.
anyway, saw this, lol.
I actually hope that PT gets his Tube chopped off. Maybe it’ll stop him from raping Hontra. But knowing him, he’ll probably find a way.
Totally forgot about him! See that is how you go stealth even as an known trans/actor has anyone watched Boy Meets Girl recently? I mind seeing it in the days before on demand streaming and when troons were rare, sad sympathetic figures.
Lol, I still remember when trannies were super rare and no one gave a shit about them either way because they were basically seen as harmless ultra feminine homos (to be far, there were many more HSTS back then). I don’t believe in the concept of “true trans” but whereas “old school transsexuals” were still problematic, but at least they didn’t go around forcing their way into every single-sex space and trying to erase the meaning of “man” and “woman.” The good ol’ days.
 
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Someone uploaded the whole speech, it's 7 minutes long.
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"T'was on that fateful day that I realized I was destined for greatness."
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"It dawned on me what I am, and who I am, like the hand of God running right through me!"

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"Adorn me on this day, and for all the days that follow, for I have cometh, thine own salvation...thy sovreign...
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The one true princess of Terflandia"
 
Someone posted this pic to his subreddit. Definitely went out of their way to pic a more flattering one
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Regarding the speech itself - holy fuck the persecution complex is strong with this one. He began with his "I'm just an actress" bit and then proceeded to whine how he may not have a career after this - motherfucker, you only ever started having a budding career because you trooned out
Also his body language in the vid is extremely masculine. Probably because his idea of a woman is limited strictly to airhead bimbo territory, so he simply has no frame of reference when it comes to women being inspiring and confident (what I think he was going for)

That dress was extremely poor fit too. His insistence on stuffing his bra makes his broad shouldered predicament even worse somehow by making his torso look fat:
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That dress was extremely poor fit too. His insistence on stuffing his bra makes his broad shouldered predicament even worse somehow by making his torso look fat:
PT has no waistline and no hips since they're a male. True there are some women who are "ruler" type bodied, as in their bust, waist, and hips are relatively the same size; I think thats the look Ollie was trying to emulate, but he has an inverted triangle shaped body (broad shoulders and narrow/non existent hips). The result is an awkwardly cut dress that looks too tight at the upper body, too short at the lower, and gives PToob an overly boxy look.

Do you think on some level he took this speaking gig as a way to one-up Contrapoints who never does anything irl?
 
Do you think on some level he took this speaking gig as a way to one-up Contrapoints who never does anything irl?
nah, he's speaking cos this is his absolute narcississt, roaring crowd roaring speech, center of la revolucion fucking DREAM.

'one-upping contra' is just a happy bonus - in his eyes.
unhappily for him, if he was capable of realising it, contra is many, many miles too self aware, and dare i say, normal to see this speech as anything other than the most cringe thing that has possibly ever happened in the world.

i doubt she'll get through it, the second hand embarrassment multiplied by actually knowing hm will make it physically impossible....then again maybe her and some good irl friend can pop a bottle to it and laugh thier arses off, rewinding certain bits on it, quoting it to each other in texts for the next year+.

this is how women generally act on the assortment of sad bastard egotistical ex associates in our social sphere.
when the tides are low, its scratching around on peoples social media for stuff, but just sometimes you get some real juice and it is to be squeezed to the fullest.

fucking get at it, contra.
 
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I was going to mention that too. If there was any doubts about the sincerity of his words, the microphone glitch moment removed them.

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I feel like this insane event should most definitely become a meme on the same scale as “it’s ma’am!” did. It’s actually far cringier. At least the “it’s ma’am” guy was sincere. It really sucks that there’s (I guess) this aura of wealth or sophistication to Olly and Contra that let them fly under the radar.

What Olly did standing there looking insane is every bit as cringe and unbelievable as “It’s Ma’am.” Every bit! But for some reason it won’t get meme-ified the way it should. “Babe, I’ve got dignity coming out of me ass” alone is worthy of universal internet mockery.
 
This is probably the most dramatic face I have seen in a speech outside movies. Seriously, I get that Abighoul gets most of her ideas of what a woman is from porn and movies, but it seems like Abby's entire worldview is based on what she sees in movies.

Also, about the dress, I personally have never liked that type of dresses (partially because they never look good on me) but I'm not sure what dress could have looked better. I guess she could go for volume but that can also look strange, but I have seen some gay guys looking good in it (to be fair, I don't know if they used those hip things that drag queens sometimes use). In the end, I just don't know if Abighoul can look good in a dress because they are made for women, not trans-women. (Off-topic, but I guess it would be such a good business idea of making clothes for trans-women. Someone could earn so much money if done correctly.)
 
but I'm not sure what dress could have looked better.
Anything that would have covered up those knees and thighs. No troon ever seems to realise that their legs give them away too, but they do. Olly's aren't stick-thin skinny man-legs at least, but his legs and knees just emphasise that he is a chunky ogre and not a dainty lady, imo.
 
Also, about the dress, I personally have never liked that type of dresses (partially because they never look good on me) but I'm not sure what dress could have looked better. I guess she could go for volume but that can also look strange, but I have seen some gay guys looking good in it (to be fair, I don't know if they used those hip things that drag queens sometimes use). In the end, I just don't know if Abighoul can look good in a dress because they are made for women, not trans-women. (Off-topic, but I guess it would be such a good business idea of making clothes for trans-women. Someone could earn so much money if done correctly.)
Imo it's the V cut, they always look bad on troons. V cuts are specifically designed to look good on bodies troons can never have: no broad shoulder and that female hip to waist ratio. Also sleeves. Ironically they wear them to hide their man shoulders, and they do.... as long as they don't move. When they do they puff up and make their shoulders look even bigger, as is evident on the vid
I looked for similar dresses, looks good on women, probably what Abighoul was aiming for:
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I even drew over this tard to make his silhouette look more like a woman's would. Makes it so much better, except even with all the surgeries in the world he'll never be able to achieve this look irl:
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I think that white dress you are snarking on was carefully picked after hours of online shopping because it's supposed to hide the maleness of the body... it's seems to have all of the details recomanded.

The fabric gather a bit at the sleeves: to disguise a bit the shoulders
V-neck: to elongate the neck and draw the eyes away from the shoulders.
Sort of "breast forms" in the pattern: create breasts where there are none, can accomodate some padding
A line: to hide the large torso and absence of waist
Flaring at the bottom: to hide the hips, makes them look larger and more feminine.

The result isn't convincing but it's not for lack of trying. It's just that the individual has the frame to be a rugby player.

A lot of transwomen tend to think their legs are the most feminine part of their bodies, for exemple because they are "long" and the fashion industry made narrow hips and bony legs fashionable for women when the model body type took over.
Transwomen also are trying to look more narrow. I see they tend to wear a lot of skinny jeans or narrow mini-skirts in my area, while current fashion for their age-bracket moves away from those silouettes.

I don't watch this youtuber, but i know people who do. I wonder if that self-aggrandizing speach will make them more or less sympathetic to their audience. Nothing bad seems to have happened. No loss of their job, no getting kicked out by parents, no transphobic harasment in the streets, tube or bars... the state ask them to fill in a couple of papers before getting things, seems on par on the course for all of us. Put on a stage to shout platitudes after transitioning a couple month ago...
Life seems pretty sweet on Terf Island for this individual, actually.
 
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