The Great Twitter Meltdown of 2021 - Emulator creator Byuu bullied to death by HateSpeech™ forum, Twitter takes up arms (Still No Death Report)

[Meat Target]

@Dyn told @Null that it'd be funny to remove certain post ratings in this section and Null agreed.

I wish it was my doing but it wasn't.

Oh, sorry, my mistake.

 

[Ferryman]

Wikipedia really wrecked itself when it established that "rely on media sources" rule.

Some random twitter account posts a sketchy allegation, and as soon as some low-effort Kotaku or Vice article cites it, Wikipedia treats the allegation as encyclopedic fact.

Wikipedia being an unreliable cliclbaity garbage pile? Who'd've thunk

 

[The Big Bad D]

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[benutz]

I've sperged on this several times, but Guanfacine is insanely hard to die on and only has one death attributed to it.

Reminder that an overdose and dying to an overdose are two separate things. Its very common to survive prescription overdoses.

PL'ing here but wtf.

He had Sertraline (zoloft), Remeron (mirtazipine), Anafranil, Escitalopram (lexapro), and that Guanfacine.

I've overdosed on Zoloft, I've overdosed on Remeron, I've overdosed on Lexapro.

But not at the same time. Just for kicks really. Like taken a whole strip (30 tablets) when you find out a few weeks later this shit doesn't work at all (it does for some people so don't take this as medical advice).

I also saved my buddy's life after him od'ing on Anafranil. But he also took a couple of strips and drank a six pack of tenents super and he was ok a couple of days later. Took him to emergency, waited all night for him to wake up. More the booze really.

I will say some of them make you feel shitty ill for a few days, and maybe I'm lucky I didn't get serotonin syndrome, but seeing as those things take days like 4-6 weeks to build up your serotonin, I don't think there's much chance of them doing it overnight. Might be wrong.

Some drugs are contra-indicated for causing SS, like any one of them with food supplements like Tryptophan or Tramadol with Remeron even. Having said that, I took a shit load (full strip) of both Tramadol and Remeron at once (over a nightly period) and I've never felt so fucking fabulous...

No idea about Guanfacine - that might be the one to push you over the edge.

Was that his stash? Did he take it all in one?

If I was going to hang myself, and I have thought about it, I would want to be lucid and on the fucking ball, because that is one trick you don't want to mess up. Near was a clever guy - pretty sure if he wanted out he would not use the double method of drugs to dull your senses.

As I understand it, hanging with drug od is not as common as drug od with alcohol od. Most people who hang themselves are lucid. You need shit set up and you need to be good to go. People who blow their brains out with a double-barelled shotgun might get all het up in the heat of the moment when they are drunk, but hanging, no, on the whole, it's mostly men that do it, and it's mostly very forethought out before hand.

Near's little threat was an empty threat in every regard.

I'm not saying if he necked all those pills that he wouldn't have had SS or his liver pack up a week or two later (same as with Paracetamol or Acetaminophen I think you call it in the states). A lot of those SSRI's are metabolized by liver and whatnot, but it's not the same thing really. Paracetamol is a very very safe drug, that is very very dirty in OD. It basically shreds your liver like a cheese grater. Don't fucking do it.

THIS IS A PSA:
DO NOT OVERDOSE ON PARACETAMOL OR ACETAMINOPHEN. It will take you a week or more to die and no one will be able to help you. You won't get put out of your misery unless you live in The Netherlands. And every single doctor/nurse/relative will be haunted by your screams until the day they die.

Then again, just like Near, maybe that is what you want.

One final thing. I took most of those drugs back to my chemist to be disposed of. I wasn't stupid enough to do the whole lot in one go.

And as for the Codeine. One of my faves and one I get enough of to kill me twice over every month. Another no go. Some people have natural tolerance via their inbuilt genetic enzymes. Same way some people can get drunk on a pint, I can take massive amounts of opiods, not because I'm strong, but because my body is built that way. I get drunk easy though.

The point is, you really really have to work out how all this affects you. And no one really can at the end of the day if this is novel to you. Pharmacokinetics and Pharmacodynamics are an absolute minefield that no one really understands except maybe the finest minds on planet earth, involved with ongoing research.

Near new this. Others have said this in this thread. I just backed it up a bit (take it with a grain of salt). No fucking way he would take pills and neck himself. One or the other.

All those pills were for show. All easily available. None of them very deadly. Probably not even in combination (don't try this at home).

Make of this what you will.

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[Nointey]

dave is on the argentinian island and realizes he has become more of a shithead and kills himself by shredding up a SNES and drinking it

 

[Jagraveen]

dave is on the argentinian island and realizes he has become more of a shithead and kills himself by shredding up a SNES and drinking it

Now Byuustein killed himself

 

[Smug Cat]

Zoe Quinn lied and accused someone of sexual assault. This leading directly to their permanent professional cancelation and, ultimately, suicide. These exact same people defended her. They are the scum of the Earth.

This line is argumentation is so fucking pozzed. Holowka is exactly as responsible for the decision to take his own life as any dead cow people try to blame on this website. Zoe isn't magically responsible for his decisions because she's a two-faced psycho grifter who everyone hates. She's responsible for her shitty actions, but unless she physically held a gun to the man's head, he's responsible for his. If you're going to argue on principle, commit to the principle and don't double-back on it to own the libs. This is Twitter-tier garbage.

 

[Carbonation Grimace]

This line is argumentation is so fucking pozzed. Holowka is exactly as responsible for the decision to take his own life as any dead cow people try to blame on this website. Zoe isn't magically responsible for his decisions because she's a two-faced psycho grifter who everyone hates. She's responsible for her shitty actions, but unless she physically held a gun to the man's head, he's responsible for his. If you're going to argue on principle, commit to the principle and don't double-back on it to own the libs. This is Twitter-tier garbage.

It's an argument exposing the hypocrisy. Calm down.

 

[CharlesBarkley]

Zoe Quinn wrote a 13 page on Holowka in Helldump and called his games "Even more pretentious and faggy then mine, laffo!" which caused him to get murdered by his own hands. Zoe Quinn is responsible for this death and most atone for her crimes by wearing a paper bag over her head and refusing to ever get naked on camera ever again.

 

[Jordi El Nino Polla]

@Dyn told @Null that it'd be funny to remove certain post ratings in this section and Null agreed.

I wish it was my doing but it wasn't.

Let the bitches believe that you did it.

The bitches need to hate you.

 

[CapricornusRex]

To be clear, Byuu is/was not a tranny I don't think. They went through a tranny phase and foolishly said dangerous tranny things like encouraging DIY hormone abuse but pretty sure they didn't go through with it and stopped at some point. He just decided to be nonbinary instead and may have actually had no interest in sex (the verb) for whatever reason, which is probably for the best considering most of his avatars.

I have a feeling the only reason he did the tranny phase was to coerce some autist out of their SNES collection. Everything you read about this guy screams manipulative cunt.

 

[Smug Cat]

It's an argument exposing the hypocrisy. Calm down.

"Exposing the hypocrisy" by being a hypocrite. It's always "noooo I'm just pointing out their hypocrisy but actually Zoe Quinn really responsible for this and nobody will acknowledge it "

Even if I accept that stupidity for the sake of argumentation, it's not even a good argument. The wokie moral code absolutely distinguishes between outing a rapist and shit-talking a troon. It's like when retarded atheists try to argue the bible to bible-thumpers without even understanding theology well enough to make a coherent point. You're not owning anyone.

 

[LordBaron]

This line is argumentation is so fucking pozzed. Holowka is exactly as responsible for the decision to take his own life as any dead cow people try to blame on this website. Zoe isn't magically responsible for his decisions because she's a two-faced psycho grifter who everyone hates. She's responsible for her shitty actions, but unless she physically held a gun to the man's head, he's responsible for his. If you're going to argue on principle, commit to the principle and don't double-back on it to own the libs. This is Twitter-tier garbage.

Here's the thing.

Zoe Quinn sent her attack dogs out on Holowka and drove him to suicide, but no one bats an eye (in fact, if you so much as say she killed him you get attacked).
But then Kiwifarms possibly has a tie to Byuu's death, suddenly everyone is up in that business and complaining about how they bully people while ironically DDOSing the server.

 

[Strix454]

Wikipedia really wrecked itself when it established that "rely on media sources" rule.

Some random twitter account posts a sketchy allegation, and as soon as some low-effort Kotaku or Vice article cites it, Wikipedia treats the allegation as encyclopedic fact.

The problem goes deeper. The problem is that they blindly trust sources without any evaluation of the source material. They literally operate by the rule that if it was written by something institutional they trust, its by definition true. There is also no qualitative evaluation of the source at the publication. Material produced by staff reporters at a magazine is equal to the unedited clickbait published by bloggers on the publication website.

But the reality is even worse than that. Wikipedia operates by mob rule. If you have numbers and the right friends on your side, literally anything can become a fact. What you eventually find out is that there are really no rules at all there. And if you try to use the written rules to defend yourself, that itself is against the rules and will get you kicked off the site.

 

[Smug Cat]

Here's the thing.

Zoe Quinn sent her attack dogs out on Holowka and drove him to suicide, but no one bats an eye (in fact, if you so much as say she killed him you get attacked).
But then Kiwifarms possibly has a tie to Byuu's death, suddenly everyone is up in that business and complaining about how they bully people while ironically DDOSing the server.

Yes I understand what your hypocritical argument is, thank you. It's still a bad, hypocritical argument.

Also I love that I specifically said "it's always this bullshit" immediately before a demonstration of that exact bullshit. Grow a principle.

 

[Super Guido]

"Exposing the hypocrisy" by being a hypocrite. It's always "noooo I'm just pointing out their hypocrisy but actually Zoe Quinn really responsible for this and nobody will acknowledge it "

Even if I accept that stupidity for the sake of argumentation, it's not even a good argument. The wokie moral code absolutely distinguishes between outing a rapist and shit-talking a troon. It's like when retarded atheists try to argue the bible to bible-thumpers without even understanding theology well enough to make a coherent point. You're not owning anyone.

It depends how much they like the rapist/troon. The wokies turned on John Flynt when he talked with The Enemy (I forget who - it was an interview with some dude). Those types don't have any real friends since they're constantly updating a dossier about each other's crimes.

 

[Jordi El Nino Polla]

Here's the thing

Argument discarded.

 

[cat merchant]

Not really complicated. They thought Alec deserved to die as rapist, while Byuu as far as I know has never been accused of being one. If he was, the reaction might’ve been way different.

 

[Smug Cat]

It depends how much they like the rapist/troon. The wokies turned on John Flynt when he talked with The Enemy. Those types don't have any real friends since they're constantly updating a dossier about each other's crimes.

Yeah the wokie moral code is for sure backstabbing bullshit, you'll get no argument from me there. My point is that, by their asinine struggle session logic, this is wildly, wildly different from the Quinn-Holowka situation. Comparing the two is a piss-poor argument even if we ignore the hypocrisy.

 

[Gone Ham]

Hook, line and sinker

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