The Alien TV show will be about classicism - We Wuz Xenomorphs

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You know how Aliens works--scrappy scientists and workers get trapped with Xenomorphs in a spaceship or colony, and they have to fight to survive. The upcoming Aliens TV show, though, won't be a simple retread, says show creator Noah Hawley in an interview with Vanity Fair.

Instead of trapping humans with aliens, the show will be about "What happens if you can't contain it?" the Legion and Fargo creator said. The show will not re-cast or revisit Sigourney Weaver's iconic character Ellen Ripley.

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"It's not a Ripley story," Hawley said. "She's one of the great characters of all time, and I think the story has been told pretty perfectly, and I don't want to mess with it."

Instead, the show will head to Earth and tackle themes of class inequality. "What happens when the inequality we're struggling with now isn't resolved?" he asked.

"[The Alien films] are great monster movies, but they're not just monster movies," Hawley continued. "They're about humanity trapped between our primordial, parasitic past and our artificial intelligence future--and they're both trying to kill us. Here you have human beings, and they can't go forward, and they can't go back."

Hawley already has two scripts for the show ready to go, but don't expect it this year.

"The entire film industry had to take a year off, and now they're trying to jam two years of production into one," he said. "Everyone is racing to make up for lost time. So I figure, let that bubble burst a bit, and we'll do it right."

In the meantime, you can catch up on Hawley's other work, which includes three seasons of the visually-stunning X-Men spinoff Legion and four seasons of Fargo--proof positive that Hawley is the right creator to turn a movie into a long-form series.
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I would be very impressed if this turns out good. It's ideal for Hollywood Hacks to go this route: get on your soapbox (but not really do anything) about the 1% (which they are) and do a bunch of bullshit that won't require advanced CGI or makeup with the Alien.
 
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My favorite part of Shin Gojira was politicians and scientists just sitting in a room, struggling to maintain control and thinking how to deal with the big lizard. If it's anything like that then i might like it. But it's better to not expect anything good.
What if instead it's #NotAllXenomorphs or some shit like that.
 
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As if that franchise hadn't shit the bed already, years ago. As flawed as Alien 3 was, in retrospect it wasn't that bad when compared to the garbage that came after it.
 
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The thing is, Sci-Fi is best, when it tries to tackle a contemporary political or social issue and either extrapolates it into the future or spoofs it in a creative and interesting way.

Classism might be an interesting idea for social commentary, but it's dubious how that fits into an Alien show (though not impossible) and I simply lack any trust into any producers capability of tackling any social issue in a manner that isn't brain numbingly asinine SJW feel-good-slogans with the political acument of a 12 year old.
 
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RomanesEuntDomus said:
The thing is, Sci-Fi is best, when it tries to tackle a contemporary political or social issue and either extrapolates it into the future or spoofs it in a creative and interesting way.

Classism might be an interesting idea for social commentary, but it's dubious how that fits into an Alien show (though not impossible) and I simply lack any trust into any producers capability of tackling any social issue in a manner that isn't brain numbingly asinine SJW feel-good-slogans with the political acument of a 12 year old.
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Some dongs are pointing out that classism was a thing in the movies but it was in the background. Far in the background. Barely a thing in Alien, a little more prominent in Aliens and Alien 3 but it was still far in the background. The fact that the show runner is highlighting this element as a main theme is very worrisome.
 
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BrunoMattei said:
The fact that the show runner is highlighting this element as a main theme is very worrisome.
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I just assume that every protagonist in every movie and show from this point onward will be a black muslim lesbian tranny.
I do so for this show. It'll be the "we wuz kangz n shiet, fuck whitey, we poor cuz whitey been keepin us down n shiet" kind of classism.
 
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RomanesEuntDomus said:
The thing is, Sci-Fi is best, when it tries to tackle a contemporary political or social issue and either extrapolates it into the future or spoofs it in a creative and interesting way.

Classism might be an interesting idea for social commentary, but it's dubious how that fits into an Alien show (though not impossible) and I simply lack any trust into any producers capability of tackling any social issue in a manner that isn't brain numbingly asinine SJW feel-good-slogans with the political acument of a 12 year old.
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Snowpiercer hangs a lampshade on class it but it's still more subtle than your average SJW stuff.
 
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Well, it is a good setting for exploring themes of late stage capitalism and corporate greed and all that. I don't know about class though.
 
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Snowpiercer hangs a lampshade on class it but it's still more subtle than your average SJW stuff.
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Which just goes to show, it's not so much the topic as the way how it's handled.
Elysium also tackles this topic and it is a rather weak movie. It looks cool, but goddamn nothing in it makes any sense whatsoever.

Soylent Green is a great example of an old-timey movie that is executed very well. It's bleak as the darkest pits of hell with a kind of cynicism you simply won't find in modern movies and it depicts a two class society in perfection. On one hand, you have people so poor, they literally work as furniture or appliances for other people, that mostly subsist on a diet of artificial soy-crap food and every now and then, they start going apeshit, so the Police just brutally beats them up or comes swooping in with garbage-trucks and shovels them straight into the back of the truck to drive them off to prison.
And on the other hand, you have people living in unfathomable decadence.
Soylent Green is a great movie with great worldbuilding. It's subtle things, but when you really think about it, it's absolutely amazing.
 
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I agree comrade. I'm sure your sensible and well thought through Marxist opinion will make for some great Sci-Fi adventures.

I'll apply your principles in reality by using Sonarr to watch your shitty TV show. After all, what's more morally justified than taking from the Hollywood elite?
 
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I can't judge until I get more info on the show and see the execution of it, but on paper, I have no issue with a Alien show dealing with themes about classicism. However, could easily see it going wrong.

Noah Hawley has done good work with the Fargo TV show but Lucy in the Sky was a big miss, so no idea if he could pull this off.
 
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