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Not that I take anything China says at face value, but I can see them vaccinating more people than other countries.

They're an authoritarian nation that doesn't give a shit about their people's wellbeing, of course they can make their civilians take the jab under threat of punishment for them and their immediate family. Anyone that experiences nasty side effects, or even dies, would be ignored or "encouraged" to stow it (I don't trust them to make sturdy action figures, let alone make safe vaccines).

I'm also sure that nations like Australia and Canada would be more than eager to emulate that behavior.
Yeah that's my point.
China is closer to the Doomer/Branch Covidian power fantasy playbook than it is the more libertarian/Covid-skeptic playbook.

If someone is going to choose a country to "I wish we had been more like" in this case its (I almost can't believe I'm saying this) Sweden.
 
I think the division in America is being egged on by the powers that shouldn't be. America used to represent freedom and independence, and globalist tyrants don't like those things.
I've been thinking this for years. The US is so powerful and so influential that it effectively rules the world. It's the homeland of a lot of resources the globalist tyrants use to enforce their rule and maintain power. But I think they're convinced now that it's too risky to keep the US in one piece. They want America divided and weak so that power never turns on them, and they'll burn the country down if it ever looks like they're losing power. The Second American Civil War will almost certainly be World War III.

But more on topic, it's really sad how divided the US is and how most of the country totally accepted tyranny and millions of people wanted the government to oppress them more. None of this nonsense would have ever happened even 20-30 years ago, let alone back in the fond days boomers. The US is better as a united country where there are no slave states like the neo-feudal hellholes the coastal elites enforce on their people.
 
If the vaccines work, explain Israel pls? Pls? Sersiously. I would love an explanation.

I can't bring myself to kill myself and nothing else is going to kill me for another 7 decades, so the question is: Do I go to jail, or do I spend the rest of my life working from home? They're mostly the same thing, except when I go to jail, I won't have my computer, there's a good chance I'll be raped, and my reputation will still be shot on the off chance we can live again in 50 years.
hey, don't killl yourself. try and find meaning with your community. volunteer if needs be.
 
And one Youtuber dropped that comment on a clip then Sky News posted about the doctors who suggest to keep the measures after July 19.

Right now these people aren't even pretending it's about the virus or it's effect on people's health/life.

We went from "Protect the health system" and "Save lives" to getting the pandemic under control and then the "goal" was "COVID ZERO".
So this stupid Covid Zero plan was to have zero covid cases recorded in Australia. Achieved.
Borders locked - 85% of people's applications to leave the country are denied.

So for over a year, our travel industry has been shut down. The only planes operating regular multiple per day pax flights out of Sydney Airport have been China Airlines, China Southern Airlines, Emirates, Cathay Pacific and Qatar Airlines.
Qantas, our national carrier, has been effectively grounded and only operating their local Jetstar flights at a very reduced capacity, when internal borders haven't been shut.

Flights in and out of Australia have been kneecapped, bar for ones to and from China. Mysterious how that works.

Scomo (PM) can go to and from the UK no problems and upon his return, magically even with strict hotel quarantine, no citizens allowed to leave Australia and strict testing rules in place for those allowed to come in, MAGICALLY Delta just slipped through into the state (NSW) with the least uptake of the vaccine.

So Delta has arrived. Major panic. NSW Health doesn't mention anything about worry about the health system or deaths in particular, just that the variant now has NO symptoms so go get tested. You must get vaxxed and tested. It's super deadly and super spreadable, but has no symptoms and no deaths associated with it.

MSM here has a phrase they love : "A Grim new total of infections". Not deaths. Not hospitalisations. Just "Infections". The amount of times you hear "A Grim New number" is insane. Every news break. It went from deaths being grim, to hospitalisations being grim, to people merely being infected with no symptoms as "Grim".

NSW Health shut down restaurants and Cafes on the North Shore for a few "local cases" over XMAS and NYE, but it was very obvious there were no cases. Either way, the Govt didn't give them any financial help, even though it'd be the busiest time for them.

Every long weekend/public holiday since NYE/Xmas has been the same - "magically new cases found, we need to put restrictions in for this long weekend/public holiday". It's a pattern that hasn't failed yet.

Scomo has ended the Jobkeeper/Business help schemes despite the new NSW bullshit lockdown, so there's no real help for businesses. "Experts" are telling small business to suck it up and stop being selfish.

In my IRL job, I've represented 40+ local doctors and professors of virology, ID, etc since last year in an effort to connect them to media/authorities and whistleblower organizations since March last year. Some of them former WHO associates.
So not exactly quacks. Just wrong thinkers. They've been right about everything and they've been ignored by the media 100%.

It's incredible the politics behind such a "deadly" virus. The people making the rules, esp in NSW are political think tanks (like the Grattan Institute) whilst wrong think doctors are sent death threats and gag orders.

It's never been anything about Public health and safety. It's completely and utterly political.
 
Right now these people aren't even pretending it's about the virus or it's effect on people's health/life.

We went from "Protect the health system" and "Save lives" to getting the pandemic under control and then the "goal" was "COVID ZERO".
So this stupid Covid Zero plan was to have zero covid cases recorded in Australia. Achieved.
Borders locked - 85% of people's applications to leave the country are denied.

So for over a year, our travel industry has been shut down. The only planes operating regular multiple per day pax flights out of Sydney Airport have been China Airlines, China Southern Airlines, Emirates, Cathay Pacific and Qatar Airlines.
Qantas, our national carrier, has been effectively grounded and only operating their local Jetstar flights at a very reduced capacity, when internal borders haven't been shut.

Flights in and out of Australia have been kneecapped, bar for ones to and from China. Mysterious how that works.

Scomo (PM) can go to and from the UK no problems and upon his return, magically even with strict hotel quarantine, no citizens allowed to leave Australia and strict testing rules in place for those allowed to come in, MAGICALLY Delta just slipped through into the state (NSW) with the least uptake of the vaccine.

So Delta has arrived. Major panic. NSW Health doesn't mention anything about worry about the health system or deaths in particular, just that the variant now has NO symptoms so go get tested. You must get vaxxed and tested. It's super deadly and super spreadable, but has no symptoms and no deaths associated with it.

MSM here has a phrase they love : "A Grim new total of infections". Not deaths. Not hospitalisations. Just "Infections". The amount of times you hear "A Grim New number" is insane. Every news break. It went from deaths being grim, to hospitalisations being grim, to people merely being infected with no symptoms as "Grim".

NSW Health shut down restaurants and Cafes on the North Shore for a few "local cases" over XMAS and NYE, but it was very obvious there were no cases. Either way, the Govt didn't give them any financial help, even though it'd be the busiest time for them.

Every long weekend/public holiday since NYE/Xmas has been the same - "magically new cases found, we need to put restrictions in for this long weekend/public holiday". It's a pattern that hasn't failed yet.

Scomo has ended the Jobkeeper/Business help schemes despite the new NSW bullshit lockdown, so there's no real help for businesses. "Experts" are telling small business to suck it up and stop being selfish.

In my IRL job, I've represented 40+ local doctors and professors of virology, ID, etc since last year in an effort to connect them to media/authorities and whistleblower organizations since March last year. Some of them former WHO associates.
So not exactly quacks. Just wrong thinkers. They've been right about everything and they've been ignored by the media 100%.

It's incredible the politics behind such a "deadly" virus. The people making the rules, esp in NSW are political think tanks (like the Grattan Institute) whilst wrong think doctors are sent death threats and gag orders.

It's never been anything about Public health and safety. It's completely and utterly political.
cases mean jack fucking shit and the spastics taken in by that should just kill themselves already.
 
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Lmfao their doctor won't even take their calls anymore
To be fair, that radiating pain being described is the same thing I suffered after my vaccination. But it lasted about a day only. The long covid bullshit seems like a way to get attention, though there are probably really unhealthy people out there who got sick and have issues as a result. But they blame it on the disease rather than their trash-bodies.
 
Went to the local fireworks festival.

It was refreshing. No "social distancing" or vaccine bullshit, and almost no one wore muzzles (of the few who did, the most notable was of course a "dangerhair"). It was like a big middle finger to the "New Normal", the scamdemic, and the assholes behind it. It was like being in "real life" again before 2020.

Being in a less leftist place really does makes a difference.

It's also hope that someday things can get better.
 
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Went to the local fireworks festival.

It was refreshing. No "social distancing" or vaccine bullshit, and almost no one wore muzzles (of the few who did, the most notable was of course a "dangerhair"). It was like a big middle finger to the "New Normal", the scamdemic, and the assholes behind it. It was like being in "real life" again before 2020.

Being in a less leftist place really does makes a difference.

It's also hope that someday things can get better.
There's something terrifying about how for most of 2020 and 2021, the only parts of the planet that were even remotely free and normal was rural red states (not sure how bad the two "cities" in South Dakota were), areas home to maybe 50 million people total.

I suppose most of Africa or anywhere 3rd world and remote counts too, but that's only because the government has no power there, only whoever has the money to bribe officials. And most all places did impose increasingly nonsensical restrictions, all except for a few red states who mostly remained free except for urban shitholes. In these rural counties, it was the only place on the planet still legal (as in actually legal, not "nobody enforces the law") to do perfectly normal things like "go to the store and you and the clerk can see each other's face." Even just a few months ago, things like "walk into a crowded restaurant and nobody is covering their face" would be unheard of outside of this belt of freedom.

I really wonder if it's possible to teach your average leftist, your average Democrat voter and not a total progressive zombie (who will never learn BTW), of how wonderful this is. I believe most people can learn and change from experience, and I wonder if a trip through a rural red state would cause any sort of change in their media-taught mindset that "lockdowns good masks good".
 
It's very simple - the virus has become so heavily politicized that it has transcended from a virus of concern (initial outset) to an apotheosized, deified system of beliefs.

The "Science" isn't based on data or qualitive information regarding the virus itself, the "Science" isn't based on logical sequencing of known information related to the path of a virus, the "Science" is political. It's dictatorial. It's power-hungry. It's tyrannical.

Look at these historical statements :
Those who do not pledge allegiance to Holy Rules should be expelled from the Kingdom.
Those who do not pledge allegiance to Hitler should be gassed.
Those who do not pledge allegiance to the CCP shall be "re-educated".
Those who do not pledge allegiance to Roman Gods shall be fed to the lions.
Those who do not pledge allegiance to "The Science" shall have hell thrown down upon them.

That's where we are. It's not new behaviour, it's just behaviour we pretended for a while that we were above descending into.
The second a "Crisis" rolled around, Humans behaved like Humans have in all of history.

Those who wish to control, to dominate saw their chance to steal power from the masses.

When you're in a situation where it's either "submit or be kicked out", you're not talking about anything based on the good of all. You're looking at a power struggle, where the good of a few dominates.






Unless people start to rise up, it's unlikely.

We have the "Health Minister" in NSW, Australia calling us "Maskless Wackos" "Unentitled to freedoms" and "Selfish" for a virus that has killed no one and put no strain on the hospitals.

The data doesn't matter to these cunts. The reality doesn't matter.

Look at what they've done so far :

Ignored data - their own data - around HCQ and Ivermectin as treatments for Coronavirus.
  • Silenced doctors from platforms - not just quacks, but INVENTORS of the technology they're using to keep us under the thumb.
  • Ignored data that shows that the virus is not of consequence.
  • Fabricated data at the outset to "scare" people into compliance.
  • Qualify "Death from Coronavirus" as Death anytime from anything but may test positive at some point or after death.
  • Refused to acknowledge how and why the "Virus" came about.
  • Didn't complete trials on a "vaccine", that isn't a vaccine and doesn't vaccinate and went straight to human use - mandatory human use.
  • Refuse outright to acknowledge that the "Vaccine" that isn't a vaccine is dangerous, killing people, maiming people and was horrible in animal trials.
The fact they've done all that, even with half the public of the WORLD knowing and they're doing nothing but doubling down kinda gives you your answer.

Its now a secular religion, but without any checks and balances all regions over centuries and millenias developed.

Science(TM) or Data(TM) are new dieties.

Although most of the job of scientists is argue with another about thesesis. For bluecheckmark twitter picked-and-chisen scientists became dogmatic. And so when Biden, if all people, drops a beat on Wuhan lab its ruwroh.

Or when Florida and Texas were supposed to be massacred and fuck all happened. For anyone in or around the field knows that scientists without opponents are often a cretins with gloated egos, good colleagues who keep them in check is what matters. But around lockdowns we created a belief system.

Let me tell you about my country - small and in eastern periphery of EU.

Wave 1 - nonexistant
Wave 2 - vitus comes, does numbers, PM decides everyone should be tested, everyone is tested nothing happens. ScienceTM comes and says lockdown before Xmas. Fuck all happens, numbers going up. Second lockdown since 1.1. Everything closed. Curfew 8pm. Have to wear respirators to bed and whatever but worth it, right? We're helping right? Right?

Wrong. Month after strickest lockdown numbers go still up. Then another one and they go down. At that point in 1Q between 20 and 40 percent of population got the virus. Thats why it went down, natural herd immunity established at least for a time. This was demonstrated on calculations by group of mathematicians who dissented against gov narrative.

Two weeks ago watching discussion with minister and chief of ministry analytical department when later says: "And as we saw, lockdown worked."

This is like scientology but dumber.
 
Its now a secular religion, but without any checks and balances all regions over centuries and millenias developed.
Eventually Science (the religion, not science the process which is mostly extinct) will get checks and balances simply because it will be wrong too many times. Can't trust science when they lie about the data and are blatantly another mouthpiece for the government and ruling elite. That's how all religions worked because all religion has a foolish tendency of trying to predict the future. They always are tempted to predict the future for political reasons and fail.

Historically, this is why eventually peasants and nobles and kings alike became fed up over the corrupt nonsense certain religions got up to and executed clergy and monks, confiscated their land, and banned their faith. Happened in Europe, Middle East, China, all of those places, fuck even back in the Stone Age when the tribe's shaman got lynched after all his spiritual power failed to find a mammoth to hunt, and it fell upon the religion to stop being so goddamn corrupt and retarded. Most do, but we're entering into a true Dark Age.

But anyway, one of the most worrying parts about the scamdemic is the increase in trust many people have had in the government and "experts." IIRC, polling indicates that for many groups, trust in these groups has risen by quite a bit. Maybe the polls are wrong/deliberately biased to demoralize, but I could genuinely believe this by the amount of bootlicking a certain portion of the political spectrum has been doing these past 16 months. Fear and 24/7 propaganda is a potent weapon, and your 2020s First World Covidian shares much in common with a 1930s German or Russian.
 
Its now a secular religion, but without any checks and balances all regions over centuries and millenias developed.

Science(TM) or Data(TM) are new dieties.

Although most of the job of scientists is argue with another about thesesis. For bluecheckmark twitter picked-and-chisen scientists became dogmatic. And so when Biden, if all people, drops a beat on Wuhan lab its ruwroh.

Or when Florida and Texas were supposed to be massacred and fuck all happened. For anyone in or around the field knows that scientists without opponents are often a cretins with gloated egos, good colleagues who keep them in check is what matters. But around lockdowns we created a belief system.

Let me tell you about my country - small and in eastern periphery of EU.

Wave 1 - nonexistant
Wave 2 - vitus comes, does numbers, PM decides everyone should be tested, everyone is tested nothing happens. ScienceTM comes and says lockdown before Xmas. Fuck all happens, numbers going up. Second lockdown since 1.1. Everything closed. Curfew 8pm. Have to wear respirators to bed and whatever but worth it, right? We're helping right? Right?

Wrong. Month after strickest lockdown numbers go still up. Then another one and they go down. At that point in 1Q between 20 and 40 percent of population got the virus. Thats why it went down, natural herd immunity established at least for a time. This was demonstrated on calculations by group of mathematicians who dissented against gov narrative.

Two weeks ago watching discussion with minister and chief of ministry analytical department when later says: "And as we saw, lockdown worked."

This is like scientology but dumber.
Damn
South Park was right again
 
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Eventually Science (the religion, not science the process which is mostly extinct) will get checks and balances simply because it will be wrong too many times. Can't trust science when they lie about the data and are blatantly another mouthpiece for the government and ruling elite. That's how all religions worked because all religion has a foolish tendency of trying to predict the future. They always are tempted to predict the future for political reasons and fail.

Historically, this is why eventually peasants and nobles and kings alike became fed up over the corrupt nonsense certain religions got up to and executed clergy and monks, confiscated their land, and banned their faith. Happened in Europe, Middle East, China, all of those places, fuck even back in the Stone Age when the tribe's shaman got lynched after all his spiritual power failed to find a mammoth to hunt, and it fell upon the religion to stop being so goddamn corrupt and retarded. Most do, but we're entering into a true Dark Age.

But anyway, one of the most worrying parts about the scamdemic is the increase in trust many people have had in the government and "experts." IIRC, polling indicates that for many groups, trust in these groups has risen by quite a bit. Maybe the polls are wrong/deliberately biased to demoralize, but I could genuinely believe this by the amount of bootlicking a certain portion of the political spectrum has been doing these past 16 months. Fear and 24/7 propaganda is a potent weapon, and your 2020s First World Covidian shares much in common with a 1930s German or Russian.

Thing is science (actual thing as in process to determinr validity of claims) has all checks and balances necessary to it.

We see science(TM), or some scientisisms in actions. Whitepapers that were published 5 minutes ago, weren't peer reviewed, weren't replicated reported as Truth, obscure academics who until 5 minutes ago were run-of-the-mill in their branch, no better or worse than thousands like them are now talking heads on telly, pretending like there isn't any disagreement to then. Scientists, social or hard sciences, which were opposed to lockdowns were ignored and then villified by mass media even tho examples of Texas and Florida proved them right. Until this day no peer reviewed paper been published that would demonstrate that Kent variant was deadlier than original, and yet for half a year this been reported as "Truth". We see same shit with Indian one too, only evidence of it being much LESS deadly are overwhelming.

Remeber "bend the curve". As in lets bend the hospitalization admission rate so it doesnt overwhelm the system? Aside of sounding retarded, the idea was solid, but you dont hear it anymore, not for a good year now. Now its zeroCOVID lunatics who think they can exterminate respiratory virus with transmissibility comparable to common cold, instead of guiding its mutation to something akin to OC43, coronavirus that like caused Russian flu pandemic over century ago and now causes common cold. The delta is already demonstrating thats where we are heading.

And yet I hear lunatics now saying "prepare for third lockdown, look whats happening in Israel."

Israel had 0 deaths in past week, anyone using it as example of why we need to take civil liberties needs to be instituted and keys thrown away.
 
The "flatten the curve" thing is quite hilarious. Back then it was kinda sorta accepted that the Coof will run through the population and burn out to some harmless variant, as respiratory viruses tend to do. But then it was turned into ZeroCovid hardliner ideology, every death is one too many, and perma-lockdown fanatics. "Anyone who isn't vaccinated by autumn will get it", with the implication that many will get really sick and have permanent damage from it.
And now every variant is the new apocalypse because reeeee it'll breed more harmful mutations that escape the vaccines reeeee.
Which, btw., isn't something I fully understood. The vaccines train the body to recognize the spike protein, right? If the mutations escape the immune response, wouldn't that mean that the spike protein changed as well? And since the original spike protein caused a lot of the inflammation symptoms, couldn't that eventually lead to a much more harmless variant without any of the nasty stuff that the original Coof brought?
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Doesn't that kinda sound like the Delta variant?
Quoth the Guardian:
It was first detected in India late last year and contains mutations in the gene that codes for the spike protein which the virus uses to enter cells in the body.
So, uh, I hope anyone is studying this properly, and is checking wether the ACE2 receptor bollockery or whatever it was that could have made the original Coof so nasty is still happening.
 
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A 13-year-old Michigan boy died in his sleep three days after receiving the coronavirus vaccine in June and the Centers for Disease Control has opened an investigation into the death, a report said on Sunday.

Jacob Clynick — who was preparing to enter high school in the fall — received his second dose of the Pfizer vaccine at a Walgreens in Zilwaukee, Mich. on June 13, his aunt told the Detroit Free Press.

Now to be fair if just one 300lb diabetic boomer is saved from the dreaded coof this kid's sacrifice would have been worth it.

“Meanwhile, the health department continues to encourage families to speak with their physicians to weigh their own risks and benefits of vaccination.”

There is no discussion to be had, no children have died or ever will die from Covid. Parents bullying their children into getting the jab are psychopathic monsters who will face God's wrath and should go neck themselves now on the off chance he might pity them and condemn them just to an eternity in purgatory.

The "flatten the curve" thing is quite hilarious. Back then it was kinda sorta accepted that the Coof will run through the population and burn out to some harmless variant, as respiratory viruses tend to do. But then it was turned into ZeroCovid hardliner ideology, every death is one too many, and perma-lockdown fanatics. "Anyone who isn't vaccinated by autumn will get it", with the implication that many will get really sick and have permanent damage from it.
And now every variant is the new apocalypse because reeeee it'll breed more harmful mutations that escape the vaccines reeeee.
Which, btw., isn't something I fully understood. The vaccines train the body to recognize the spike protein, right? If the mutations escape the immune response, wouldn't that mean that the spike protein changed as well? And since the original spike protein caused a lot of the inflammation symptoms, couldn't that eventually lead to a much more harmless variant without any of the nasty stuff that the original Coof brought?
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Doesn't that kinda sound like the Delta variant?
Quoth the Guardian:

So, uh, I hope anyone is studying this properly, and is checking wether the ACE2 receptor bollockery or whatever it was that could have made the original Coof so nasty is still happening.
Covid is obviously a religious cult. Anyone demanding that entire societies should be imprisoned to protect us from a disease that is now killing less people than the flu is a maniacal nutjob.

Speaking of the Guardian


Hundreds of health workers have been forced to isolate after being deemed close contacts of an unvaccinated student nurse who worked across two Sydney hospitals while infectious with Covid-19, wreaking havoc on staffing levels.

They're now shutting down entire hospitals to stop a viral outbreak that so far hasn't killed a single person. How many people will die because they can't get care at this hospital? Who the fuck cares? This is clown world.

Thing is science (actual thing as in process to determinr validity of claims) has all checks and balances necessary to it.

We see science(TM), or some scientisisms in actions. Whitepapers that were published 5 minutes ago, weren't peer reviewed, weren't replicated reported as Truth, obscure academics who until 5 minutes ago were run-of-the-mill in their branch, no better or worse than thousands like them are now talking heads on telly, pretending like there isn't any disagreement to then. Scientists, social or hard sciences, which were opposed to lockdowns were ignored and then villified by mass media even tho examples of Texas and Florida proved them right. Until this day no peer reviewed paper been published that would demonstrate that Kent variant was deadlier than original, and yet for half a year this been reported as "Truth". We see same shit with Indian one too, only evidence of it being much LESS deadly are overwhelming.

Remeber "bend the curve". As in lets bend the hospitalization admission rate so it doesnt overwhelm the system? Aside of sounding retarded, the idea was solid, but you dont hear it anymore, not for a good year now. Now its zeroCOVID lunatics who think they can exterminate respiratory virus with transmissibility comparable to common cold, instead of guiding its mutation to something akin to OC43, coronavirus that like caused Russian flu pandemic over century ago and now causes common cold. The delta is already demonstrating thats where we are heading.

And yet I hear lunatics now saying "prepare for third lockdown, look whats happening in Israel."

Israel had 0 deaths in past week, anyone using it as example of why we need to take civil liberties needs to be instituted and keys thrown away.
Keep a watch on Australia. Sydney reported 35 new cases today, double yesterdays number. Aussies have no natural immunity from the coof and only a small percentage of the population have been vaccinated because they think the AZ vaccine is shit and that's the one their government decided to buy.

So far there have been two small(ish) outbreaks of muh Delta variant in Melbourne last month and Sydney this month with around 1000 cumulative cases, including nursing home patients. So far they have reported zero deaths.

Reading the Aussie media it's all about case numbers and when they're going to get the Pfizer vaccine. Bit of a change from last year when all I was reading was tragic stories about how a 99 year old cancer patient was taken from us far too soon by the dreaded coof.
 
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