Vaush / @VaushV / VaushVidya / IrishLaddie / Ian Anthony Kochinski - Horse Cock Enthusiast, Larpy Violent Revolutionary, Sex Pest, in his 100th pedo scandal

[Freesia]

Not really.

If he loses? He lost to the alt right and his fans and detractors never let him forget, killing his career. Its a huge win for the right who will carry it forever.

If he wins, he doesnt gain anything since the left never valued the discussion, he platformed the alt right and gave them air time which is a win for them. Might even put your platform in danger of being taken away.

Draw? Look bad, for all the reasons listed above.

Honestly, if youre a leftist, you cant win against someone like Jared Taylor because he knows his content and itshard to argue against it. You can only shitstomp 70iq small right wing channels where their only win is shouting nigger on a platform theyre either banned or soon to be banned.

I know that a certain segment of the left, particularly the dysfunctional trannies treat everyone on the right as untouchables, but I think most left-wingers would like to win against the right rather than just ignore them. I don't think most people would criticize Destiny for destroying someone in an argument., especially since Destiny's audience are a lot more liberal than Vaush's.

I think this is a cope, the reason why Destiny and the like don't want to debate people like that is because they genuinely have no arguments against them. Their worldview is mostly based on feelings and they reinforce that with emotional shaming rather than any factual reasoning. They don't bring these guys on cause they can't win, not because they feel winning makes no difference either way.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

He doesnt have the knowledge of what hes talking about, just recites what he read somewhere that affirms his belief.

The only thing manbunpig ever reads is Wikipedia. You would have thought he would check out the early life sections and realize the pattern of every single time?

 

[DarkSoulsPhil]

I know that a certain segment of the left, particularly the dysfunctional trannies treat everyone on the right as untouchables, but I think most left-wingers would like to win against the right rather than just ignore them. I don't think most people would criticize Destiny for destroying someone in an argument., especially since Destiny's audience are a lot more liberal than Vaush's.

I think this is a cope, the reason why Destiny and the like don't want to debate people like that is because they genuinely have no arguments against them. Their worldview is mostly based on feelings and they reinforce that with emotional shaming rather than any factual reasoning. They don't bring these guys on cause they can't win, not because they feel winning makes no difference either way.

Again, they cant touch alt right and the like for the reasons ive given. Libertarians are shooting fish in a barrel and theyre fair game for leftist debaters.

But the alt right will just never happen. They might have the edge on content vs the left but its a tactical loss for the left no matter what so they dont engage it.

 

[Freesia]

Again, they cant touch alt right and the like for the reasons ive given. Libertarians are shooting fish in a barrel and theyre fair game for leftist debaters.

But the alt right will just never happen. They might have the edge on content vs the left but its a tactical loss for the left no matter what so they dont engage it.

I guess we'll agree to disagree here because I have no reason to believe it has anything to do with "tactics".

 

[Opticana]

Honestly, if youre a leftist, you cant win against someone like Jared Taylor because he knows his content and itshard to argue against it. You can only shitstomp 70iq small right wing channels where their only win is shouting nigger on a platform theyre either banned or soon to be banned.

I don't think that's the right take. Every political position, right or left, will have some partisans thinking that it's objectively, clearly right, and that a competent representative would DESTROY an opponent in a debate. I'm sure there are leftists who could deal with Taylor just fine. The issue is that Wikipedia Andys are are totally ignorant past whatever leftist talking point is in fashion that day. Destiny didn't recognize the name of *the chairman of the Fed* in a debate with f***ing Coach Redpill on economics. You don't need need to have a super strong grasp of the issue to handle Destiny or Vaush, you just need to be someone that (like them) can talk a good game.

 

[ManletPower]

Well, Vaush doesn't have an ounce of originality to him and the reason why he doesn't debate people like that is because he actually doesn't even know what positions they hold. Take Ryan Dawson for example. Vaush thought he's obsessed with "jews and stuff" and seems like a closet fascist but who exactly made the statement in the likes of "Israel deserves to get bombed the shit out" ? Vaush will only look good if he can mute his opponents thus he has this gigantic list of demands if you want to debate him, creating an inner safe space.

In terms of Destiny, I will give him some credit that the reason why he doesn't debate people like JF is that you need to make A LOT of research in terms of genetics, biology and stuff.
He did say that what JF is saying is true on the surface levels but you'd need to dive deep to expose his flaws, according to his words. He also gave credit to JF being a really good debater and that was in his review of "The Serfs vs JF" debate. Well The Serfs is another leftist who's on the lower spectrum of IQ.
I guess that it's not platforming extremists issue (because he has platformed many dumbfuck leftists, even Vaush with extreme views, but Destiny is not always consistent- I would assume that it's a lot easier making yourself good in front of specific leftists than certain extreme righties. Reason being is that one debate is entirely economics (co-ops larpy BS) and the other debate involves biology and how genes are expressed/inherited which is very complex topic that requires a lot more preparation).

Someone in this thread mentioned that the reason why vaush doesn't debate libertarians is because it would expose his radical views. I guess this is true. In his last debate with libertarian called Larry (I think that's what he was called) he said that the state is not that powerful... Larry had to tell him that they literally locked down and shut down businesses in the last year so he has no idea where he's getting that idea from. Of course Vaush backtracked from that and argued something like oh I meant they're not so powerful in certain sectors

 

[Rekkington]

sexytime

This post had so much going for it...

 

[Willie Thrills]

He's delusional enough.

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That's not even impressive, isn't that guy like 5'6?

 

[Enne]

In terms of Destiny, I will give him some credit that the reason why he doesn't debate people like JF is that you need to make A LOT of research in terms of genetics, biology and stuff.

Idk if any of these people deserve credit for not debating people because they're uneducated, online debates are a massive joke and if these people really cared about anything beyond the grift they would be getting an education beyond looking at random reports and not understanding them then falling back on Wikipedia. The only reason people don't debate certain people is optics I wish the retard optics shit would fall off though because I want to watch more retards yelling at each other, Destiny and vaush have been way too boring lately

 

[BoxerShorts47]

but you'd need to dive deep to expose his flaws, according to his words.

That's just cope. There is no deep dive. DNA is real. There are biologically differences between individuals, ethnicities and races and the result of Destiny's bleeding heart welfare policy is dysgenics. His own fanbase was starting to realize this.

Someone in this thread mentioned that the reason why vaush doesn't debate libertarians is because it would expose his radical views. I guess this is true. In his last debate with libertarian called Larry (I think that's what he was called) he said that the state is not that powerful... Larry had to tell him that they literally locked down and shut down businesses in the last year so he has no idea where he's getting that idea from. Of course Vaush backtracked from that and argued something like oh I meant they're not so powerful in certain sectors

Destiny learned to not say anything to win a debate in his Vegan Gains failure so now he lies tactically, e.g. point above when there is no "deep dive." Vaush hasn't learned this lesson and he is further to left in the echo chamber so he lies more and more explicitly. Best lie is that he is a libertarian when really he is a neo-liberal: he doesn't share his wealth equally with his employees and he counter signals SJWs like Robin DeAnglo and Black nationalists. He just realizes that neo-lib has a bad reputation so he rebrands himself as a libertarian but this is pure dishonesty.

 

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[Misery Niggas]

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

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You can’t even read what the shirt says. Guarantee people will just think it’s a band t shirt from Hot topic.

 

[LizCurly89]

This Friday, July 9 at 11am PST, Vaush will debate Jackson Hinkle on the OPCW coverup on the chemical attacks in Douma, Syria. Vaush agreed to debate on twitter, let's see how he does agaisnt someome who actually scrolls down and checks out the sources to which the endnotes on wikipedia link to...

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

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Knowing Vaush, he’d find this as a compliment, while trying to explain why Omni-Man’s politics are good for society after telling his bloodied son to think with his (possibly damaged) brain

 

[NormieCasual]

You can’t even read what the shirt says. Guarantee people will just think it’s a band t shirt from Hot topic.

It is girly enough.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

The modern Western activist Left has (misguidedly) fooled themselves into thinking one of the few enduring psychometric formulations of modern psychology (IQ) is useless (or other non-empirical suppositions), and any courting of those who advocate for the opposite is tantamount to platforming (therefore granting them passive advertisement).

Remind me again, not to defend Vaush, but wasn't IQ originally formulated just to measure your knowledge against your age?

Isn't there a more accurate way of measuring a human brain's quality? I remember hearing something about measuring how quickly the brain responds to a light photon reaching one's eye being a measurement.

 

[Ged!]

Remind me again, not to defend Vaush, but wasn't IQ originally formulated just to measure your knowledge against your age?

Isn't there a more accurate way of measuring a human brain's quality? I remember hearing something about measuring how quickly the brain responds to a light photon reaching one's eye being a measurement.

I don't know if it was originally for something else, but an IQ (intelligence quotient) is a score that attempts to measure general intellegence (g). It can only be so accurate, there isn't any "perfect" IQ test, so it doesn't actually measure (g), it just tries to. That's why there are so many different types of IQ tests, some better than others. Assuming that light photon test is an attempt to measure (g) that would just be another type of IQ test.

 

[Łimønča]

Isn't there a more accurate way of measuring a human brain's quality? I remember hearing something about measuring how quickly the brain responds to a light photon reaching one's eye being a measurement.

I remember reading years ago about a correlation between myelination and IQ. Myelin is a layer of fatty tissue that protects nerve cells and insulates electrical signals. There is likely a decent correlation between cognitive ability (g), a general intelligence proxy (IQ) and myelination.

 

[Hirbowedge]

Remind me again, not to defend Vaush, but wasn't IQ originally formulated just to measure your knowledge against your age?

Isn't there a more accurate way of measuring a human brain's quality? I remember hearing something about measuring how quickly the brain responds to a light photon reaching one's eye being a measurement.

First proper IQ test was used to select American officers for WWI. They basically wanted some way to measure competence before giving people responsibility. It had problems like having several questions relying on the tester to have grammatical or historical knowledge, but modern tests are beyond that.