Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[Crunchy Leaf]

Isn't that basically the same for all of them? The same way that (some) straight men really want to bang a lesbian, there is some gay men that really obssess over straight men (Jeffrey Star and James Charles are 2 non-trans exemples). So HSTS want straight men, transbians want lesbians, and the same for the ftms (fujoshis and butch women lusting for a straight girl).

Honestly think the media they consume and relationships they want to emulate has a lot to do with it too (the gays I have a bit more sympathy cause I assume they also want to be like a normal mainstream couple white andro/gynephiles seems fueled by being Extremelly Online) but at the end of the day it involves wanting to be with people that are not attracted to them so it's a problem either way.

Bisexuals in general never seem to be the main objects of lust but are usually the ones sucking the fake penis/clitty and pretending it's the same as a cis one


The constante talk about depth and how many "inches" they have is the weirdest thing ever, it's funny that the mtfs talk about their "inches" way more than the ftms do, even. I have never met a single woman that mentioned the depth of their vaginma in any context ever

There are women who have noticeably short vaginas and who do need corrective surgery to be able to have penetrative sex, but unless you’re in that situation nobody’s like, measuring.

 

[Coffee Druid]

Isn't that basically the same for all of them? The same way that (some) straight men really want to bang a lesbian, there is some gay men that really obssess over straight men (Jeffrey Star and James Charles are 2 non-trans exemples). So HSTS want straight men, transbians want lesbians, and the same for the ftms (fujoshis and butch women lusting for a straight girl).

Honestly think the media they consume and relationships they want to emulate has a lot to do with it too (the gays I have a bit more sympathy cause I assume they also want to be like a normal mainstream couple white andro/gynephiles seems fueled by being Extremelly Online) but at the end of the day it involves wanting to be with people that are not attracted to them so it's a problem either way.

Bisexuals in general never seem to be the main objects of lust but are usually the ones sucking the fake penis/clitty and pretending it's the same as a cis one


The constante talk about depth and how many "inches" they have is the weirdest thing ever, it's funny that the mtfs talk about their "inches" way more than the ftms do, even. I have never met a single woman that mentioned the depth of their vaginma in any context ever

Same. Maybe it’s that women just don’t get into as many metaphorical “dick measuring contests”. But it’s also harder to measure and visually see. You can’t just stick a ruler up there. At least not without it being very uncomfy. Theoretically you could see how far a dildo hits when aroused, and measure that way. Buuuut. 99% of women probably do not care or know.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

Same. Maybe it’s that women just don’t get into as many metaphorical “dick measuring contests”. But it’s also harder to measure and visually see. You can’t just stick a ruler up there. At least not without it being very uncomfy. Theoretically you could see how far a dildo hits when aroused, and measure that way. Buuuut. 99% of women probably do not care or know.

Yeah, titty size is what women are more likely to compare on.

 

[behindyourightnow]

It's either a 4chan shitpost or a serious misunderstanding of male anatomy and genital surgery for TiMs.

The anatomy thing makes no sense, the prostate is above the neovagina and adjacent to the colon so it's not clear how a butcher could put anything in there let alone a fuckhole.

Thank you, that is what I thought because the prostate is right there against the butt but I didn't want to google that sort of horror, and honestly nothing would surprise me at this point when it comes to these surgeries. If you told me some surgeons took the prostate out and stuck it on the outside to make a tru and valid neoclitoris that squirts I would probably believe you.

 

[Owner of a Lonely Hole]

You also gotta remember that having a deeper or wider or anything “bigger” vagina is supposedly a sign of being a whore. Women, in general, are expected to be “tight” so that a man can feel more like a stud when he fucks her. It’s a completely opposite mentality that, frankly, trannies might benefit from adopting.

 

[sanguis draconis]

So I already had my suspicions, but tried to see some links to confirm, female "agender" surgery is the same procedures as FGM:

This post on tumblr explains the procedures and talks about where you can possibly get them - notice they keep repeating "ask on the down-low cause no clinic is going to openly admit they do Female Gneital Mutilation". Also notice it's a reblog from a tumblr called "Transgender Teen Survival Guide", classy.

Looking at women interested in it, there's this group on motherless for "Nullo Women" (note: NSFW page) where the FGM procedures seem to definitely be a point of interest:

(I am 100% there is a bigger group with pictures on Fetlife but don't fancy getting an account there to peruse the stuff)

And finally, a case study on Reddit of an 18 year old gay girl that has already had hysterectomy and posts constantly about wanting genital nullification, with a rich dad willing to pay for any surgeries she wants, UselessAltThing (+archived):

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Seems extreme, however perusing her post history reveals the discomfort with her genitals might have another cause:

Spoiler: She's dating a "cishet" girl

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Interestingly, she actually admits she is not so happy before retracting and continuing with her posts of wanting to get rid of everything:

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There's also weird posts about wanting to be eyeless or removing her hands so, the people in this thread would have a good time with the account

(note that she posts the same post in a million subs so it's hard to lookj through her posts but it's an interesting look into a girl that barely turned 18 and already getting all kinds of surgeries)

 

[Al from Dadeville]

After reading through this thread I can honestly say that Chris Chan did an above-average job on the taint wound, aftercare, and healing. Can he get a residency at Mt Sinai?

 

[Windows Error 98]

And finally, a case study on Reddit of an 18 year old gay girl that has already had hysterectomy and posts constantly about wanting genital nullification, with a rich dad willing to pay for any surgeries she wants, UselessAltThing (+archived):

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Seems extreme, however perusing her post history reveals the discomfort with her genitals might have another cause:

Spoiler: She's dating a "cishet" girl

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Interestingly, she actually admits she is not so happy before retracting and continuing with her posts of wanting to get rid of everything:

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There's also weird posts about wanting to be eyeless or removing her hands so, the people in this thread would have a good time with the account

(note that she posts the same post in a million subs so it's hard to lookj through her posts but it's an interesting look into a girl that barely turned 18 and already getting all kinds of surgeries)

Ah, UselessAltThing. I’ve already posted about her a few times in the sideshows thread and in personal lolcows, but she is a piece of work. I’m not entirely sure that she’s not an elaborate troll account, as there are a few details about her that don’t make much sense - she has this weird obsession with posting in conservative leaning subs in addition to lgbt ones, which if fake might be an attempt to provoke controversy. If so, we may be playing into this. However, her posts are very funny, so I do not care.
She’s unusually good at keeping her privacy safe for a zoomer, all I’ve noticed about her background wise is that she’s 18, lives in New York, and has a rich dad. No name, no photos, no usage of the username outside of Reddit.
Could be an elaborate troll. Could be a highly disturbed female coomer who fetishes a lack of gender due to hentai addiction (she admits this.) The jury is still out!

 

[Schatzi Katze]

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For an actual woman, yes. It can be a little painful and cause discomfort, especially if the man is too rough. Don't keep slamming your dick into her cervix, you'll cause it to bruise and potentially bleed (vaginal tearing) as well as make her sore due to the bruising.

Of course, not having enough depth may also be because the woman is not fully aroused. Make sure to treat your girl right before intercourse. Much like how the man needs to make his dick hard, the woman's vaginal walls need to expand.

If the woman is very wet (without the assistance of lube, ie via foreplay) her vaginal walls have fully expanded. I think that's the only relatively accurate way to know for sure what her depth is.

If the penis is still larger than the depth of the vagina, it highly recommended that you don't go balls deep. Hitting the cervix is something you want to avoid if you're being rough. However, it should be fine if you're taking it slow. Remember, you DO NOT want to bruise it.

un excuse you I am an expert on vaginas from watching hentai and I happen to know that cisgirls LOVE getting their cervix smashed into repeatedly! Also if they are REALLY aroused you can fuck them right in the uter- ok, wait no, sorry, im making myself sick just typing that.

Joking aside, I'd bet good money a lot of em probably do get their female sex ed knowledge from x-ray hentai which makes it all the more fitting that neovaginas will likely cause them immense pain from even minimal penetration. Guess thats one way to "feel like a woman" ...

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

I've seen a few people inquire about Nullification and wanted to share some findings:

This clinic is focused on any kind of trans surgery, and they not only perform "non-binary" surgery, they also actually have some pics:

There's the "both genders" kind that wants their amhole whilke keeping their penis:

Spoiler: Some futa cumbrained lunatics

"2 month post operation photo of non-binary/transfeminine patient who underwent phallus-preserving vaginoplasty. Lining for the full-depth vagina was created using full-thickness skin grafts from the scrotum and from the groin regions (which are in continuity with the lateral labia incisions)."

"Transfeminine patient who desired phallus-preserving vaginoplasty. Orchiectomy was performed, and the scrotal skin was used to create labia. A full thickness skin graft from the abdomen was used to create the lining of the vaginal canal. She has a full-depth functional vagina."

"Before and Immediate post op photos of non-binary/transfeminine patient who desired phallus-preserving vaginoplasty. Lining for the full-depth vagina was created using scrotal skin and skin from the groin regions (which are in continuity with the labia incisions). Foley catheter and packing will stay in place for 1 week."

And the actual "Delete Everything" crowd:

Spoiler: The Nullification

"Agender patient who desired nullification (penectomy, orchiectomy, scrotectomy). This is a 1 year postoperative result."

"Gender fluid/transfeminine patient who desired nullification (penectomy, orchiectomy, scrotectomy). This is an immediate postoperative result. The Foley catheter is removed at 1 week post-op."

"Gender fluid/transfeminine patient who desired nullification (penectomy, orchiectomy, scrotectomy). This is a 1 year postoperative result. She maintained erogenous sensation, and is able to achieve orgasms with stimulation of the perineum."

The butcher for all of the above is Dr. Thomas Satterwhite.

An article (including all the gory detailed pictures) of the old days when genderspecials had to do some DIY if they wanted customised genitals:

My Life Without A Cock | eFukt.com

archived 15 May 2018 13:50:25 UTC

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And this classic article, about a gay bear that actually got a doctor to do his Nullo surgery, interview is actually pretty interesting:

"I Still Unload": This Man Is a "Nullo" Who Removed His Penis and Bal…

archived 20 Feb 2021 14:47:20 UTC

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tl;dr: Gay bottom embarrassed cause he has big Dicks and Nuts, gets injured in the nuts, suffers nerve damage, removes balls with a back-alley body modder, penis still hurts a little so since he has always had a fetish he convinces doctors (including in a psych eval) to go all the way and removes penis

Spoiler: Thunk-proking snippets

"went to see a psychiatrist and he spent a good 90 minutes with me and said "yes, I have just the person that can work with you." So the psychologist did a battery of personality tests and said "you're perfectly fine, your only problem is that you've got these physical problems which work on your nerves." And I said "yeah." And he said "it also works with your personality" because I'm a gay submissive and I always have been and it wasn't working right. So in order to to fix it I worked toward a goal of having things removed. And that was it."

"in talking to all the guys that I've been talking with, they try to come up with all sorts of different rationalizations to justify it. In my case, my medical situation really didn't justify it because I was just uncomfortable with what I had. It wasn't medically necessary."

Completely fine and healthy details of his sex life:

"Another thing is, guys who are aroused by my situation are very aroused. I've got some guys who are pursuing me a lot. And they just like this idea, because there's nothing there to be in the way. Face to face fucking is very pleasurable. And when they're doing that I actually wet their stomachs with my fluids. And this one guy, he likes to go down on me. He's a bi guy and he said he does this with his girlfriend so he goes down there and starts licking me. And he just loves that idea. He loves the idea that I have a hairy chest and what is to him a very tiny vagina that he can't fuck but he can lick and he can enjoy being the male role. I've even got a straight guy here in town who likes to fuck me because I don't have any male genitals and he doesn't feel threatened by that."

What happens with the balls in back alley castrations?

"Quite a few [cutters] collect them. They preserve them, they put them in jars. One guy embedded his in plastic and now it's an ornament somewhere. This typically happens when you're in a master/slave dominant/submissive relationship and the submissive gives up his balls to his partner for keepsake."

The other option is, of course, cannibalism.

"It is for real, yes. Some guys do that. Think about the Testy Festy, where they go there and every year there they have concentration of people who are into eating sheep and bull nuts and rocky mountain oysters. I know a few cutters that don't charge anything for their work, the only charge they have is that they get the nuts afterwards."

Our eunuch, of course, has had a taste:

"Yes, as a matter of fact they do taste a little like chicken. Actually I would have to say they taste as much like chicken as they do roast pork. But it all depends on how you cook them. If you cook them in salted butter then they might be saltier than they might otherwise be."
"I went to a cutter's place and he was having an event where he cut a number of guys and I was assisting him there. And what I did is I cooked them up in some butter with some mushrooms. Quite good with a nice red merlot wine."

It seems like he also influenced Dr. Crane's decent into madness?

"In the last couple of years, my friend Mack from San Francisco ran into Dr. Crane from Brownstein & Crane and he met him, and I don't know how the two of them had the discussion, and then I had a phone interview with Dr. Crane and I explained my situation with him and now Dr. Crane is no longer doing just transgender type of procedures but [also] genital modifications."

The interviwer also asks about "the medical profession's reluctance to remove healthy body parts":

You know about the Hippocratic oath right? "First do no harm". They have to be convinced that what they are doing is in fact an improvement on your health. Which is why the surgeon is requesting a psychological evaluation. And the psychologist comes back and says "yeah, he's going to be uncomfortable where he is, he's going to be more improved, better mood, better this, better that" and so forth. So from a totality point of view, it's going to get better after he gets modified.

Of course, I can't leave out the pics:

Spoiler: You know what to expect

Now if you REALLY want to see more of those kinds of pics, the BDSM/Body Mod community has been doing the stuff for the longest time, BMEzine has galleries for most of the stuff (like female nullification which is harder to find, unfortunately you have to register so let's hope a kiwi into the stuff shares stuff.

I'm going to ask this doctor if he can make my shit look like hello kitty.

think some of them specifically want to date "straight men". No idea why, maybe lower chances of aids or maybe it's just a fetish thing. But it explains why they want nothing more than to pass as women, genitals and all. Same with mtf prostitutes, their goal is straight men, not gay men.

It's pure faggotry. They covet everything a woman has, which includes sex with straight men. They hate themselves, hence they hate other gay men. They don't want to be with other men who like cocks. I'm sure they view being a cock cozy as something feminine reserved for ladies.

 

[ComedyEnjoyer]

Sharkboy (/u/stupidstories) the 4chan poster child for failed SRS made a very long post describing everything that's happened to him before and after the surgery. (also posted in Tranny Sideshows thread here where he shows up more often)

"This entire night was spent crying, eating morphine and manically posting on reddit" needs to be a random.txt.

 

[behindyourightnow]

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I read that and think about all the women I knew who went to their doctors and tried to get a tubal ligation in their twenties and were told no because 'you might want [more] children one day' or 'you might change your mind!' or (my favorite) 'what if your future husband wants to have kids?'

 

[sanguis draconis]

I’m not entirely sure that she’s not an elaborate troll account, as there are a few details about her that don’t make much sense - she has this weird obsession with posting in conservative leaning subs in addition to lgbt ones,

Actually from what I've seen from her posts the posting in conservative subs kinda makes sense cause she is also posting about being disappointed in liberals for not catering to her enough, plus with the amount of internalized homophobia she obviously has it feels like a case of someone that has to act way more left-leaning than they actually are because they are lgbt but want to share their grievances about everything else about other leftists with people that she'd agree on other issues. Might be looking too much into it but she is a rich white that actually made a post "why do people dislike me for being rich" and "I have never experienced any kind of harrasment" so idk (then again, those posts are also prime troll posting too).

What makes me pause is that she posts a lot so if it's a troll it's a very dedicated one. Also about no identifying info - the "Alt" in her name made me assume this was like an alt account to post about stuff anonymously? Would be the only smart decision if true. Either way if it's a troll it's someone pretty good at creating a character.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

un excuse you I am an expert on vaginas

Especially ur mom's vagina.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

Might be looking too much into it but she is a rich white that actually made a post "why do people dislike me for being rich"

lol, has to be a troll.

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

So I already had my suspicions, but tried to see some links to confirm, female "agender" surgery is the same procedures as FGM:

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This post on tumblr explains the procedures and talks about where you can possibly get them - notice they keep repeating "ask on the down-low cause no clinic is going to openly admit they do Female Gneital Mutilation". Also notice it's a reblog from a tumblr called "Transgender Teen Survival Guide", classy.

Looking at women interested in it, there's this group on motherless for "Nullo Women" (note: NSFW page) where the FGM procedures seem to definitely be a point of interest:

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(I am 100% there is a bigger group with pictures on Fetlife but don't fancy getting an account there to peruse the stuff)

And finally, a case study on Reddit of an 18 year old gay girl that has already had hysterectomy and posts constantly about wanting genital nullification, with a rich dad willing to pay for any surgeries she wants, UselessAltThing (+archived):

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Seems extreme, however perusing her post history reveals the discomfort with her genitals might have another cause:

Spoiler: She's dating a "cishet" girl

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Interestingly, she actually admits she is not so happy before retracting and continuing with her posts of wanting to get rid of everything:

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There's also weird posts about wanting to be eyeless or removing her hands so, the people in this thread would have a good time with the account

(note that she posts the same post in a million subs so it's hard to lookj through her posts but it's an interesting look into a girl that barely turned 18 and already getting all kinds of surgeries)

Clearly not an intense mental illness that needs antipsychotics and therapy, nope, just a totally rational reasonable thing any normal human being would want.

 

[Precocious Halfwit]

I read that and think about all the women I knew who went to their doctors and tried to get a tubal ligation in their twenties and were told no because 'you might want [more] children one day' or 'you might change your mind!' or (my favorite) 'what if your future husband wants to have kids?'

That's what made me so MATI. That and the desire for voluntary FGM, obviously, which is the most first-world thing I think I've ever read. Elaborate troll or not, this fucker got under my skin and probably would have peak-transed me if Kiwi Farms hadn't already

 

[Scrumption]

"This entire night was spent crying, eating morphine and manically posting on reddit" needs to be a random.txt.

"Most of my friends know that I can handle a lot of pain because I removed the testicles at home without any anesthesia."
Excuse me, what the fuck did I just read

How is something like that even possible without any [unintended] catastrophe happening? How does that not kill someone? The pain alone must have been unreal to the point where you'd be unconscious. Does anyone have any insight?
Also, they tease descriptions of their neovaginal disaster in their long-winded post but provide no link to the infamous images. Where are they? Morbid curiosity is calling.

 

[PFM]

"Most of my friends know that I can handle a lot of pain because I removed the testicles at home without any anesthesia."
Excuse me, what the fuck did I just read

How is something like that even possible without any [unintended] catastrophe happening? How does that not kill someone? The pain alone must have been unreal to the point where you'd be unconscious. Does anyone have any insight?
Also, they tease descriptions of their neovaginal disaster in their long-winded post but provide no link to the infamous images. Where are they? Morbid curiosity is calling.

Maybe they just used a rubber band like they do with goats

 

[Cr1ms0n_&_C10v3r]

How is something like that even possible without any [unintended] catastrophe happening? How does that not kill someone? The pain alone must have been unreal to the point where you'd be unconscious. Does anyone have any insight?

It was explained in an AMA post he did. He actually researched the anatomy and technique beforehand. Seemingly pushed through the pain with a combo of insane person pain tolerance and desperation.