Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?
US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)
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First, an anniversary marks the passage of a year from the event, so the wording is wrong. Second, didn't Sicknick die from a stroke that was at best tangentially related to the events at the Capitol? And that this was verified by a post mortem?Joe wants "unity". No fucking way, now or ever.
Biden appeals for unity six months after Capitol riot
Morgan Chalfant 3 hrs ago
View attachment 2323686© Getty Images President Joe Biden
President Biden marked the six-month anniversary of the deadly Jan. 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol with a call for unity, urging Americans to work with one another "on behalf of the common good to restore decency, honor, and respect for the rule of law." (No, Joe. You stole the election. - JS)
"This was not dissent. It was disorder. It posed an existential crisis and a test of whether our democracy could survive-a sad reminder that there is nothing guaranteed about our democracy," Biden said in a statement Tuesday.(Bullshit. - JS)
"But while it shocked and saddened the nation and the world, six months later, we can say unequivocally that democracy did prevail-and that we must all continue the work to protect and preserve it."(More bullshit. - JS)
"That requires people of goodwill and courage to stand up to the hate, the lies, and the extremism that led to this vicious attack, including determining what happened so that we can remember it and not bury it hoping we forget," Biden continued. "It requires all of us working together - Democrats, Republicans, and independents - on behalf of the common good to restore decency, honor, and respect for the rule of law." (Guess again, Joe. Not going to happen. - JS)
The House has set up a select committee to investigate what happened on Jan. 6, but Senate Republicans blocked the formation of a more formal bipartisan commission.
Partisan differences over the meaning of the day have divided Congress since some Republicans voted to throw out the results of the Electoral College in certain states just hours after the mob invasion. The pro-Trump mob believed the former president had been denied reelection because of fraud, even though there has been no evidence to support that supposition. (My ass. - JS)
Biden also used the anniversary to make another appeal for voting rights legislation, urging the federal government to "take the urgent steps needed to protect the fundamental right to vote."
And Biden offered condolences to the families of Capitol Police officers who perished as a result of the violence or suffered wounds in the attack. (Ashli Babbitt much, Joe? - JS)
Biden and first lady Jill Biden paid their respects to Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick, who died from injuries sustained on Jan. 6, when he lied in honor in the Capitol Rotunda in February.
Sicknick was one of five people who died in the assault in January. The developments represented a low point in American history and eventually led the House to impeach former Trump for a second time on a charge of inciting the insurrection at the Capitol. Trump continues to falsely claim that he won the 2020 election against Biden. (He did. Dems stole the election. - JS)
Biden has regularly appealed for unity since taking office 14 days after the events at the Capitol and regularly talks about the need for the U.S. to prove that democracy can function for the American people in order to win out over the world's autocrats.(Democracy has long since failed in the USA, sadly. - JS)
"Together, let us demonstrate to ourselves, and to the world, the enduring strength and the limitless capacity and goodness of who we are as Americans," the president said in the statement Tuesday. (No faith or trust in government/media/law enforcement/judiciary at ANY level any more. - JS)
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I tend to think the cordial outward political persona that the public is presented with is just a ruse to keep the dividing line lubricated, to buffer and ensure the friction does not get unmanageable and can be easily quelled putting everyone back in-line.
I care not what one says, never did and never will. I look to the behavior of people and arrive at a judgement based on what they have proven through their actions.
All I see is our leadership atomizing the Americans, needling in differences between people from blanketed group oppression down to micro-aggressions and it just keeps everyone from grouping together, acting as a whole to work together in their shared pursuit of individual goals.
Divide and conquer always surfaces in my mind and I just think that is what is being carried out with a polite smile as the government stabs us in the back while the other hand is reaching in the pocket stealing our money.
Perhaps, there is a larger, very long-term agenda that they are working toward that I am not able to see, regardless, it really fucking bothers me because all I see is the wasting of the synergy 350 million people can generate for their own society.
America is a place to pursue your maxim, in the way you want which I think is priceless and why so many have come.
Around that core you can be productive, generate wealth, invest in your future, have a family, raise children, grow in education, express your speech, worship your religion, perform your creativity, enjoy a mix of cultures without friction or just be left alone in the woods.
It is up to you, and the ultimate freedom is to have the opportunity to do exactly what you want in life...that is how I see this country and I just feel it is being carelessly wasted for a greater, unachievable global vision.
I care not what one says, never did and never will. I look to the behavior of people and arrive at a judgement based on what they have proven through their actions.
All I see is our leadership atomizing the Americans, needling in differences between people from blanketed group oppression down to micro-aggressions and it just keeps everyone from grouping together, acting as a whole to work together in their shared pursuit of individual goals.
Divide and conquer always surfaces in my mind and I just think that is what is being carried out with a polite smile as the government stabs us in the back while the other hand is reaching in the pocket stealing our money.
Perhaps, there is a larger, very long-term agenda that they are working toward that I am not able to see, regardless, it really fucking bothers me because all I see is the wasting of the synergy 350 million people can generate for their own society.
America is a place to pursue your maxim, in the way you want which I think is priceless and why so many have come.
Around that core you can be productive, generate wealth, invest in your future, have a family, raise children, grow in education, express your speech, worship your religion, perform your creativity, enjoy a mix of cultures without friction or just be left alone in the woods.
It is up to you, and the ultimate freedom is to have the opportunity to do exactly what you want in life...that is how I see this country and I just feel it is being carelessly wasted for a greater, unachievable global vision.
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That had been the modus operandi for 30-ish years when the uniparty really combined. A massive chunk of -why- they hate Trump was that he wasn't part of the uniparty, and the movement that followed him woke up to said party's existence and now a sizeable chunk of the Republicans are being pulled away from it. This could be handled, but at the same time you have a significant left-wing movement doing the same to the Democrats. Either or could be handled, both at once was too much to handle and the whole delicate system tore apart.
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The US and Co did do it. British, French, American and Eastern European countries worked together to feed, house, shower and even clean clothes in Kandahar, Bastion et Al. The problem wasn't the logistics, it was the tactics and laws that the those countries had to work to. AC130s, squadrons of Tornados, apaches, ospreys, tanks a plethora of APCs, and tens of thousands of ground troops were effective at what they did. But as we could not and cannot bomb the shit out of sites, terrorist hideouts and suspected training centres without an unbelievable amount of data, it meant that most of the terrorists spent their time evading capture or being killed. Remove those restrictions and the Afghan war would have lasted 12 months.
The surrounding territories of Afghan would cause an additional problem. Taliban soldiers would often launch mortar attacks in Afghan, then flee to the Pakistani border, which was only 30~ miles away. No doubt that will cause China a head ache. However, a terrorist group operating out of a village becomes a near impossible task to solve, as any civilian casualty or collateral damage is seen as a huge negative on what was already seen as an invading force. China though, they can wipe the village out. That would make their task of security a damned site easier than what the west has. Though I do not agree with wiping out 10 innocents to kill one terrorist, China may see it differently
There are issues with logistics but if a patchwork of countries can work together and solve them, there's a very good chance China can as well. Sorry not sorry to 'trust me bro' (mainly due to national security, both for my nation and yours) I can safely say that the logistics weren't the main concern when operating in Afghanistan. The kit that the Yanks had and used was impressive. Being woken up to the pounding thud of the AC130 and the buzzing of an apache raining lead on the heads of insurgents was the best alarm clock.
While no easy feat, food, water and even Internet was available 24/7 and we never went wanting for any of it. Then we have the shops, gyms and movie theatres set up for down time for the 'lads'.
No worries. I'm neither pro China or pro communist. I'm a full-bore lover of capitalism and 'European' based democracy (that which originated in ancient Greece, carried on by the Romans, Europeans, Brits and Americans)
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Have you ever looked into the ancient Greek democracies? It's almost scary how little people have changed. They had boondoggle "forever wars" overseas, schizoid foreign and military policy caused by new guys getting put into power all the time, shadowy oligarchs constantly working to capture power to return the aristocracy, and rich demagogues trying to cement their place in history by buying off the voters and sometimes accidentally helping out the common man in the process. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
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I haven't looked in to it deeply. More the idea that democracy, Parliament etc started, AFAIK, in Greece and was built upon by proceeding empires. Britain's 'magna carter', based on the ideas of Greeks and Romans, was the basis for the deceleration of independence. America carrying the current torch of democracy/Parliament etc.
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"But most of the protests were peaceful!"
Nigger if it only takes a minority to destroy entire cities then who the fuck cares
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If you've got time to kill the history of ancient greece podcast does a good job of laying out the entire history of Athens and the rise (and fall, and rise, ad nauseam) of the democratic city states. It's a bit of a trip to realize that most of Democracy's fatal flaws have been baked in from the very beginning.
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If I beat the shit out of my wife two days a month, would I be "93% peaceful", or a fucking monster?
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Oh, they have a HUGE problem with Harris. She is thoroughly, THOROUHLY unlikeable. Everyone hates her. Her office is a complete fucking mess. Even though Biden has major senility and the entirety of the world stage knows it, and pushing him out is going to cause him to degenerate faster, they don't care because they don't want Harris in yet.
She is a fucking charisma black whole. The DNC thought they could rule from the shadows with Harris because she was an empty suit, but they forgot that the suit has to look GOOD. Harris is like the clothes from a homeless man vs. someone in Armani. She got 1% of the vote in tankie Cali, which how the fuck as a black woman, how do you do that? How do you fuck that up so bad?
The VP office is no better than her campaign office. They're going to force Biden out for the full term if they have to jumpstart his brain with pure amphetamine. They'd better primary the fuck out of her, because a rock would be able to beat her.
Joe wants "unity". No fucking way, now or ever.
Biden appeals for unity six months after Capitol riot
Morgan Chalfant 3 hrs ago
View attachment 2323686© Getty Images President Joe Biden
President Biden marked the six-month anniversary of the deadly Jan. 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol with a call for unity, urging Americans to work with one another "on behalf of the common good to restore decency, honor, and respect for the rule of law." (No, Joe. You stole the election. - JS)
"This was not dissent. It was disorder. It posed an existential crisis and a test of whether our democracy could survive-a sad reminder that there is nothing guaranteed about our democracy," Biden said in a statement Tuesday.(Bullshit. - JS)
"But while it shocked and saddened the nation and the world, six months later, we can say unequivocally that democracy did prevail-and that we must all continue the work to protect and preserve it."(More bullshit. - JS)
"That requires people of goodwill and courage to stand up to the hate, the lies, and the extremism that led to this vicious attack, including determining what happened so that we can remember it and not bury it hoping we forget," Biden continued. "It requires all of us working together - Democrats, Republicans, and independents - on behalf of the common good to restore decency, honor, and respect for the rule of law." (Guess again, Joe. Not going to happen. - JS)
The House has set up a select committee to investigate what happened on Jan. 6, but Senate Republicans blocked the formation of a more formal bipartisan commission.
Partisan differences over the meaning of the day have divided Congress since some Republicans voted to throw out the results of the Electoral College in certain states just hours after the mob invasion. The pro-Trump mob believed the former president had been denied reelection because of fraud, even though there has been no evidence to support that supposition. (My ass. - JS)
Biden also used the anniversary to make another appeal for voting rights legislation, urging the federal government to "take the urgent steps needed to protect the fundamental right to vote."
And Biden offered condolences to the families of Capitol Police officers who perished as a result of the violence or suffered wounds in the attack. (Ashli Babbitt much, Joe? - JS)
Biden and first lady Jill Biden paid their respects to Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick, who died from injuries sustained on Jan. 6, when he lied in honor in the Capitol Rotunda in February.
Sicknick was one of five people who died in the assault in January. The developments represented a low point in American history and eventually led the House to impeach former Trump for a second time on a charge of inciting the insurrection at the Capitol. Trump continues to falsely claim that he won the 2020 election against Biden. (He did. Dems stole the election. - JS)
Biden has regularly appealed for unity since taking office 14 days after the events at the Capitol and regularly talks about the need for the U.S. to prove that democracy can function for the American people in order to win out over the world's autocrats.(Democracy has long since failed in the USA, sadly. - JS)
"Together, let us demonstrate to ourselves, and to the world, the enduring strength and the limitless capacity and goodness of who we are as Americans," the president said in the statement Tuesday. (No faith or trust in government/media/law enforcement/judiciary at ANY level any more. - JS)
Unity? Are you fucking joking me? When you call all white people racist, where you do NOTHING, absolutely fucking NOTHING, about the inequality gap? You do NOTHING about the Fed giving low interest loans to fucking billionaires? You do NOTHING about your exploitative slave-debt system for university and banks, allowing them to do whatever they want? You do NOTHING about the biggest transfer of wealth in history where the rich continually bleed everyone else until they can't get anymore? You give people a pittance when they burned a year of their lives, their savings and their retirement just to survive and give free money to billion dollar corporations?
You want fucking unity while you let billionaires, tech oligarchs and hedge fund managers scream at us that we're racist while they fucking rob us blind and laugh behind our backs?
Seriously, go fuck yourself you demented old fuck. Shit in your depends you faggot. This is fucking infuriating. No. All liberal progressives are tools of the wealthy and are my enemy and must be crushed. Their ideology needs to be ground into the dust and they need to be ideologically destroyed (figuratively, calm the fuck down glowies) with it. We tried appeasement with their stupid bullshit. It failed.
They need to be defunded, told to shut the fuck up and get in the corner while the big boys undo the damage that the banks, tech oligarchs, Wall Street and billionaires who just inherited their wealth ran roughshod over 99% of the population. Anytime they ask for something they need to be slapped across the mouth and told to get the fucking shinebox.
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Probably well over 93% of police interactions with black people are peaceful so there's obviously no problem to be protesting in the first place right
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Oh no, it's even better. Not only did they let billionaires run wild, they literally made it illegal for small businesses to be open, and convinced their base that it was selfish white supremacy if you were upset that your business was being destroyed and looted.
The first day of the GameStop hilarity, CNN literally put out an article that said it was Trump's fault for inspiring the middle class to rebel against hedge funds.
Also as an aside, as far as pure hilarity, a Kamala vs. AOC Dem Primary would be the greatest thing of all time.
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No only that, but statistics show that white people are more likely to be shot by police compared to black people, despite white people committing less crime per capita.Probably well over 93% of police interactions with black people are peaceful so there's obviously no problem to be protesting in the first place right
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Yeah, because the USSR dumping butterfly bombs indiscriminately out the back of cargo planes is totally a kosher move in war... There's so many of those scattered around decades later Afghan kids were using them as firecrackers since you'd toss them at things and they'd explode.
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Because it won't fuck them over. It will fuck you over. And just so you remember your place, it will also be blamed on you for getting in the way of "common sense" border policy.
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Yeah but that doesn't matter. Trump still called racists "fine people", peed on hookers in Russia, raped multiple women and worked for Putin. And it's all here in my new book that you can hear about tonight on CNN!
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There were still mines and cluster bombs kicking around when I was there. Most reused by taliban.
Russia may have used naughty weapons like mines and cluster bombs but they never dropped nukes or mass destruction devices. At the time the USSR was locked in an ideological war with the west and while they were very arrogant in storming the 'undefeatable' Afghanistan, as we've seen in this thread, Afghanistan were helped by the west.
Post 9/11, with Charlie hebdo, the bataclan etc, how many nations would shed a tear for a country linked to terrorism, terrorists and Islamic extremists? None. That's the major advantage China has over every other nation that has gone in to afghan; nobody will give a shit how much force they use. The west may need kit to prove Ali Al salem is a terrorist before dropping a smart missile on him to only take him out and not the innocents, China can just carpet bomb the area.
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