Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

I think there's part of the AGP trans fantasy where they never really wanna commit to being a woman. The want trans to be their identity, not womanhood; I think this is why they attack TERFs so much rather than taking notes on how their supposed sisters see them.
They're always going to need that flare of masculinity to signal that they're not a real woman, they're something else entirely, but then they need to slather on all sorts of feminine signaling around it to simultaneously drown it out but call attention to it. This is perfectly encapsulated in the sorts of things they say, like "damn I hate it when my vagina barfs out blood, right gals?" I used to think it was just clumsiness on their part but I've come to believe this is integral to this whole show they're putting on.
it would be interesting if some autist/ zen like individual was able to monitor all of PTs PostTroon...(lol, its samsies babex) output to compare how many ties he refers to being trans as opposed to being a woman....or how many times e actually says 'woman' when he's not being directly resource-competitive, or downright vicious about them.
'surgery which women get for back pain' 'women need only request HRT'....and then i guess all his with-the-territory terf bashing...his representation of any 'other' female character in fact in his videos are negative portrayals / bitchy/ duped...

in fact, shit, even PreTroon, I can only think on him mentioning women in reference to his alleged domestic abuser (painted as Germain Greer on the 25th day of her cycle), and her psychotic misandry driven attacks on him.

So, uh.. shit- had thought from the off that he only wanted to be trans, not a woman, and even that, mainly for clout...but i hadn't actually quite noticed that he's never had a single positive - or even not decidedly scathing- word to say about women, ever.

Not exactly surprising of someone who goes to an all boys school, upper class so probably got a bitchy distant at best mother, then a painful staid institution with other such members of his species for university..then hops, again, with the rest of his sect, into a life with al the same male characters who are bred not to mix with the filth outside the dormitory.

women are alien, misunderstood, and so hated on confused interactions, scapegoated as having an easy ride, as they are never seen, in order to be seen to contribute, and like with any unknown, feared. and what is a fetish other than sexualised fear?
= troon
and yes, = PROFIT.
 
I'm a bit of a philosophy nerd and I first saw this clown with his pleb "philosophy of antifa" video years ago which made me kind of MATI at how fucking retardedly autistic he is and reinforced my view that Pinochet did nothing wrong and throwing commies out of helicopters is a moral imperative, always figured he'd amount to something special.

I'm hoping he/it twitter posts his severed she-peen as some kind of revolutionary fist pump theatrical grift offering to Contra.
 
It's not just the jawline that's the giveaway in the face shots. I've seen many a 10/10 woman with a robust mandible, after all. It's the combination of the jaw with the linebacker neck and the masculine trap muscles. I didn't notice the neck as much when he wore his hair down, since the hair disguises it somewhat, but in the leather biker pictures with his hair up, it becomes very visible. Even the aforementioned model women who are square jawed still have relatively skinny necks that affirm their femininity.

The illusion Olly tries to pull off completely shatters when you see a full body shot. He has a very manly frame which is not surprising given how built up he looked in some old videos - wide shoulders, masculine hip ratio, more vertical q-angle of his legs (partly why MtF trannies are observed to stand like men with their feet apart, it's due to the bone structure of the pelvis + femurs).
 
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Now I remember what that chin reminded me of!
I would also put forth:
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But at least Alice is a competent badass
 
it would be interesting if some autist/ zen like individual was able to monitor all of PTs PostTroon...(lol, its samsies babex) output to compare how many ties he refers to being trans as opposed to being a woman....or how many times e actually says 'woman' when he's not being directly resource-competitive, or downright vicious about them.
'surgery which women get for back pain' 'women need only request HRT'....and then i guess all his with-the-territory terf bashing...his representation of any 'other' female character in fact in his videos are negative portrayals / bitchy/ duped...

in fact, shit, even PreTroon, I can only think on him mentioning women in reference to his alleged domestic abuser (painted as Germain Greer on the 25th day of her cycle), and her psychotic misandry driven attacks on him.

So, uh.. shit- had thought from the off that he only wanted to be trans, not a woman, and even that, mainly for clout...but i hadn't actually quite noticed that he's never had a single positive - or even not decidedly scathing- word to say about women, ever.

Not exactly surprising of someone who goes to an all boys school, upper class so probably got a bitchy distant at best mother, then a painful staid institution with other such members of his species for university..then hops, again, with the rest of his sect, into a life with al the same male characters who are bred not to mix with the filth outside the dormitory.

women are alien, misunderstood, and so hated on confused interactions, scapegoated as having an easy ride, as they are never seen, in order to be seen to contribute, and like with any unknown, feared. and what is a fetish other than sexualised fear?
= troon
and yes, = PROFIT.
He has also talked about women in some other videos. Like:
"Why does England still have a queen?"
"Witchcraft, Gender and Marxism"
"Rules made to be broken?" (He talks about Rosa Parks)
"Amy Coney Barret"

He also has an abortion video aimed at taking down Ben Shapiro (don't know if that one counts, but still) and then there is his sexwork video. He also often sources female thinkers (at least I think most are female)

From what I remember from these videos, Abighoul tends to talk favourably about women as a concept and women who are universally considered good (like Rosa Parks) but there are also a lot of negative remarks towards individual women (mostly the ones that disagree with Abighoul or slighted her).

Abby is just your standard intersectional feminist, a Marxist, a gender special/some made up sexuality, boring, and someone who has a limited mind because everything needs to fit the theory of intersectionality. It's why troons are more important than women BTW, the theory says so. Thus, I also don't think all the bullshit comes from women being aliens (Abby is an actor, thus she must have always networked with women and worked with women). It's more likely that this is a general sense of superiority because Abby believes that her life now is automatically tougher and harder than any natal woman (maybe with the exception of black women). Thus, if someone is rude to her, they are ruder to her than a natal woman because she is trans, when someone is critical of her, the criticism is harsher because she is trans. She is a victim, and women are now working against her liberation by demanding sex-segregated spaces because she is more at risk for everything and she is also more vulnerable. It's from that logic (and that she is a complete grifter) that her actions make sense.
 
Esmeggs, please explain to her that clothes made for men are a questionable fashion choice after you announced to the world, that you are larping as a uterus-haver. Why? Well, it highlights your manbeastiality.
Thanks.
Like all troons he's a lost cause when it comes to fashion. Just utterly hopeless. I have a borderline autistic obsession with fashion, I wouldn't even know where to start with his clothing choices. The fact that he seems to be trying to emulate 'butch lesbian', although he's failing miserably, yet again makes me think that he has a lesbian fetish. I have no clue why'd he go for that biker look otherwise.
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I can't even begin to imagine the pretentious drivel that would result from a Judith Butler/Olly collaboration.
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Like all troons he's a lost cause when it comes to fashion. Just utterly hopeless. I have a borderline autistic obsession with fashion, I wouldn't even know where to start with his clothing choices. The fact that he seems to be trying to emulate 'butch lesbian', although he's failing miserably, yet again makes me think that he has a lesbian fetish. I have no clue why'd he go for that biker look otherwise.
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I can't even begin to imagine the pretentious drivel that would result from a Judith Butler/Olly collaboration.
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Allow me to break with the fashion autism to introduce culinary autism and wanting to know precisely what dessert one could make where they become intoxicated after eating it. If it's anything baked or cooked in any way the alcohol tends to evaporate off. Rum and wine are popular ingredients to desserts but I want to know if this fucking trainwreck just poured a bunch of vodka into a bowl of ice cream which would not surprise me.

Also hey Olly, if you're telling us about how you have extremely different roles on a week-by-week basis you just sound like an extra.
 
Allow me to break with the fashion autism to introduce culinary autism and wanting to know precisely what dessert one could make where they become intoxicated after eating it. If it's anything baked or cooked in any way the alcohol tends to evaporate off. Rum and wine are popular ingredients to desserts but I want to know if this fucking trainwreck just poured a bunch of vodka into a bowl of ice cream which would not surprise me.

Only dessert I can picture with uncooked alcohol is rum baba but you're not supposed to soak them in pure alcohol, you make a sweet syrup with some rum in it.
 
Do you think he also does video game VOs in that awful male falsetto? What characters could he even convincingly voice besides trannies, which are pretty few and far between (thankfully)?
Agree to disagree, as I would pay good money for a buggy Bethesda Fallout/Elder Scrolls Reskin, where all the characters are voiced by troons: males by Gaydens and the females by AGP's. It would be "so bad that is good" torture porn of games.
Bonus points for modelling the characters after their voice actors.
 
Our professor was on the channel of Benjamin A. Boyce. For those who don't know: Benjamin has interviewed a lot of detransitioners and gender critical trannies.



How much alcohol do you have to put in it to get actually drunk by it? :thinking:


I think there's part of the AGP trans fantasy where they never really wanna commit to being a woman. The want trans to be their identity, not womanhood; I think this is why they attack TERFs so much rather than taking notes on how their supposed sisters see them.
They're always going to need that flare of masculinity to signal that they're not a real woman, they're something else entirely, but then they need to slather on all sorts of feminine signaling around it to simultaneously drown it out but call attention to it. This is perfectly encapsulated in the sorts of things they say, like "damn I hate it when my vagina barfs out blood, right gals?" I used to think it was just clumsiness on their part but I've come to believe this is integral to this whole show they're putting on.

I also see some form of humiliation fetish. It appears to me that AGPs get much more angry when a woman calls them a man than when an other man does. It's probably because they feel more threatened by biological women, since they're the ones they're trying to emulate. On the other hand, it seems that they're sexually aroused when they can scream or even punch a woman.
 
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Allow me to break with the fashion autism to introduce culinary autism and wanting to know precisely what dessert one could make where they become intoxicated after eating it. If it's anything baked or cooked in any way the alcohol tends to evaporate off. Rum and wine are popular ingredients to desserts but I want to know if this fucking trainwreck just poured a bunch of vodka into a bowl of ice cream which would not surprise me.

Also hey Olly, if you're telling us about how you have extremely different roles on a week-by-week basis you just sound like an extra.
All i can think of is an old fashioned sherry trifle.
 
How much alcohol do you have to put in it to get actually drunk by it? :thinking:
He might be doing that "I'm such a dainty lady that I got tipsy off my cute adorable little dessert tee hee" thing.

The only dessert I can think of that might have that effect is Jamaican Rum cake. After you've baked the cake, you poke holes in the bottom and tip a butter/sugar/rum mix all over it so the cake gets saturated. That can be pretty lethal sometimes.
 
He might be doing that "I'm such a dainty lady that I got tipsy off my cute adorable little dessert tee hee" thing.

The only dessert I can think of that might have that effect is Jamaican Rum cake. After you've baked the cake, you poke holes in the bottom and tip a butter/sugar/rum mix all over it so the cake gets saturated. That can be pretty lethal sometimes.
My gf have Venezuelan origins and she makes a cake that seems similar to the one you mention, but I've never been drunk out of it (yet, at least). Maybe they put more rum in Jamaica though
 
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