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Flu infections are down this cycle because of masking. The fluicidal scumbags who sneezed and coughed their fucking viral loads all over everyone in shops and public transport have been compelled to gum up the inside of their masks instead. Plus, social distancing/lockdown limited the opportunities to pass this disgusting gift on. Flu rates should be back to normal in the coming cycle unless there is substantially greater uptake of a reasonably effective vaccine in the general population.
I think it's mainly because no one is actually testing for the flu combined with a much higher uptake of the flu vaccination, which unlike the Covid ones actually works.

Remember the annual flu numbers are almost exclusively based on estimates, PCR testing for seasonal flu is not that common. In the olden times of 2019 we avoided PCR testing for flu because it gave lots of false positives and wasn't a reliable diagnostic tool. Those were the dark ages of medicine...

TLDR lots of deaths that would have been marked down as seasonal flu- type 1 respiratory failure in nursing homes for example, are being given to the kung flu.


But I thought I was supposed to trust THE SCIENCE, and THE SCIENCE is saying that Delta is going to infect mainly children and teenagers and give them Long Covid even when they don't even have symptoms! We're getting an entire generation of mentally and physically crippled useless fucks!


... Ok, we're getting that anyway. But now it's because of Delta and not social media brainrot.
Muh long Covid is being pushed HARD onto the bug people by the yellow press.

It's a smorgasbord of symptoms, the usual lethargy, generalized pain, 'brain fog', disturbed sleeping patterns etc etc.

As there are no diagnostic tools to prove long Covid exists (I assure you if these people had abnormal scans or blood work we would be hearing about it) chalk it up to malingering and female centric mental illness.
 
So the flu goes to near zero but the "covid" goes to millions even tho the same rules of cuckold masking and distancing were in place?

Your logic is quite laughable, please consider taking the safe and effective vaxx asap to protect yourself from "covid".
I have indeed received both doses of the vaccine and am patiently awaiting autumn booster to go with yearly flu jab 👍
 
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Okay, I have a question as someone who had the 1st dose (my immunity is shit and I'm prone to pneumonia, so I didn't want to risk it) and is strongly reconsidering the 2nd one. This table says done vaccinated with 1st dose have lower number of deaths, hospitalisations than those without a vaccine but also less than those with 2 doses. Based of what I read, the first one is supposed to be a primer and the second one is specifically targeting this covid. Some number say 1st dose lowers your risk by 50%, other sources claim 80%. Officials want to shorten the waiting time period so that people get vaccinated quickly- but then other source says that delaying 2nd dose (waiting 12 weeks) produced better results in terms of immunity. Are the officials ignoring that because waiting more is inconvenient for managing 3rd wave or...?

What do
 
Alright faggot

Once again...it no effect me so it cant be real hurrr...

So lets ignore the entire thing and see how that goes

You do know i dont and never will give a single fuck, right? You do know nothing, literally nothing you can say will change that, right?

In fact, all people like you do is make me more adamant creatures like you and your stance are wrong.

You and people like you are the reason why i think and feel how i do. You and your shitpile beliefs make me more adamant all this is bull shit and half the fun is living my life and carrying on, knowing it makes shit piles like you so mad.

So please. Carry on. Because all you are doing is pushing me more into enjoying how angry this makes you and more adamant that I do not give a single fuck about coof because it is an overblown cold.

Your grandad raised a cunt who begat a retard. They failed to teach you that you live in a world where not everyone will share your views. Your grandad was king shit of turd mountain and world would be better if his line ended with him.

As there are no diagnostic tools to prove long Covid exists (I assure you if these people had abnormal scans or blood work we would be hearing about it) chalk it up to malingering and female centric mental illness.

But but but! They feel TIRED!! AND THEIR FITBITS SHOW FUNNY STUFF HAPPENING!!

Never mind the fact peoples health, which was for many already a botched abortion, has gone to shit. plus the hysteria thats gone on for over a year. Gyms shut, people gorging on take out- if this is SOOOOOOOO SERIOUS!!!!!!!- why are take out food places still open? Its not efuckingsential. If people can't cook then fuck them. Let then go. Seriously. Nothing of value would be lost.

Gyms shut, alcoholism soared, and a sustained campaign of psychological terror telling people that a minor virus IS LITERALLY GOING TO KILL US ALL have left people a wreck.

Id even be willing to bet long covid is exacerbated by people shutting themselves away. Get out into some fresh air abd sunshine and ditch the mask for crying out loud.

Its like the placebo effect. People are thinking themselves into it, plus they've got used to doing nothing. Long coof is the golden bennies ticket
 
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I have indeed received both doses of the vaccine and am patiently awaiting autumn booster to go with yearly flu jab 👍
That's great to hear. Maybe consider doubling up on the vaccine, if you've taken the Pfizer then also get the J&J? This will also mean 2 instead of 1 boosters so double the protection.

I also understand Moderna are coming out with a flu and Covid combo vax, but definitely get the normal flu vaccine but that shouldn't prevent you from getting that one as well.

I hear you about the masks, Risky not doubling up, I prefer the cloth mask over the paper one personally, but if you're happy taking the risk. I mean it's a free country and all.

Okay, I have a question as someone who had the 1st dose (my immunity is shit and I'm prone to pneumonia, so I didn't want to risk it) and is strongly reconsidering the 2nd one. This table says done vaccinated with 1st dose have lower number of deaths, hospitalisations than those without a vaccine but also less than those with 2 doses. Based of what I read, the first one is supposed to be a primer and the second one is specifically targeting this covid. Some number say 1st dose lowers your risk by 50%, other sources claim 80%. Officials want to shorten the waiting time period so that people get vaccinated quickly- but then other source says that delaying 2nd dose (waiting 12 weeks) produced better results in terms of immunity. Are the officials ignoring that because waiting more is inconvenient for managing 3rd wave or...?

What do
The mRNA vaccines are dose dependent. In animal trials large doses of vaccine were required to provoke an immune response, but this had the side effect of killing the test subjects. To get around this the pharma companies have split the dose up and spaced it a few weeks apart, which means most people don't die when they get the jab.

Looking at the numbers from the UK (I assume this is what you're citing) there seems to be little protection from the vaccines full stop. The study was over 6 months and so was recording a dynamic data set. The number of vaccinated was increasing during the study and the number of unvaccinated decreasing. There's also the fact that the elderly were vaccinated first and the vaccines were rolled out during the down curve of the last pandemic wave.

TLDR the vaccines are doing nothing to stop spread. The efficacy in transmission prevention was always a bit iffy, and it turns out they're pretty much useless. The vaccines might be preventing more severe illness and hospitalizations, but if they are it's pretty marginal. My own opinion is that they're a placebo, which is actually good news as the worst possible scenario would be a non sterilizing vaccine that was working as a preventative in allowing more deadly strains to transmit in the vaccinated population.

But don't let anyone tell you what to do. If you want to get the jab get the jab. If nothing else it might be good for your mental health and if you came through the first dose without serious side effects you'll likely be fine to take the second.
 
Sure you can see a massive disparity. That doesn't mean that the vaccine isn't killing people at a lot higher rate than any other vaccine. Tens of thousands haven't dropped dead from MMR, smallpox or TB vaccinations so why are people dying at a higher rate with the covid vaccination? They should be pulled and studied more before administering any more vaccines.

That all you could do was pop out that one paragraph that ended with taking a jab at my intelligence makes you look petty. I couldn't give a monkeys fuck if people think I'm as dumb as a brick, or smarter than Einstein.
Well I of course don't know why the vaccine is harmful to people, but it sure as shit is a lot safer than getting the virus itself.

You need to give me evidence to back up your claims that the numbers have been fudged, instead of sitting on your high horse and branding me as "biased". As it is according to reasonable sources, 9000 people in the US are dead from a vaccine that 150,000,000 people (0.006% deaths) have gotten, and 600,000 people are dead from a virus that at least 33,000,000 (0.18%) have gotten. Even if the virus had hit twice as many people, that alone shows how the vaccine is useful in preventing further deaths and disease.

You have brought literally nothing to the table to prove your point, but you complain I'm calling you stupid? Get over yourself.

I am amazed that people are still debating covid and variants. The MSM and even the internet (including those bots on twatter the guy posted) have done a fantastic job in the last 1,5 years. From the beginning they claimed this "deadly and dangerous virus" has the symptoms of the flu, they stopped recording the flu at all. If this does not make your eyebrows flip stop reading here.

I have noticed patterns in people who had very bad symptoms from the flu combined with "something else", this something never seemed to be a virus to me but some kind of substance that was given to people in different ways. This is what covid is, its a bad reaction of flu+something. The variants are just the common cold or the flu that may change year by year and thats completely normal.

The genius idea in this operation was using the flu that billions of people catch every year combined with fear propaganda and fake PCR tests (even the guy who invented those claimed on video those are not to test people for viruses, he also died before this show started). The datas from PCR were so fake they had to invent the "asymptomatic" person, that before this show was known as the "sane" person.

If this is not enough, the goal of the kind people on top that care so much about you was the "vaxxines" from the begin. Want proof? Fraudci leaked emails have the proof, among the most interesting ones there was one from Zuckerbergerstein, claiming he was ready to help in any way possible for the development of a vaxxine (this email is fron Feb 2020). As you should know the income of those people has skyrocketed during the lockdown, so the question you should ask yourself, why would a person want to make less money by spending money to fix a situation where he is becoming richer?

Talking about the virus and the variants and all this bullshit they are filling the normies with is exactly what those people want, the ETERNAL CUCKOLD MASK (people still use even in the open) will give them enough time to go on with the plan, whatever the goal is.
The guy who made the test also wrote the forward and associated himself with a movement that denies that HIV causes AIDS. He doesn't get to decide what tests do and don't work, and if you think he does, maybe you should scratch yourself up with some needles you find in disposal boxes.

Flu incidences also decreased as people were taking precautions to prevent getting sick.
Okay, I have a question as someone who had the 1st dose (my immunity is shit and I'm prone to pneumonia, so I didn't want to risk it) and is strongly reconsidering the 2nd one. This table says done vaccinated with 1st dose have lower number of deaths, hospitalisations than those without a vaccine but also less than those with 2 doses. Based of what I read, the first one is supposed to be a primer and the second one is specifically targeting this covid. Some number say 1st dose lowers your risk by 50%, other sources claim 80%. Officials want to shorten the waiting time period so that people get vaccinated quickly- but then other source says that delaying 2nd dose (waiting 12 weeks) produced better results in terms of immunity. Are the officials ignoring that because waiting more is inconvenient for managing 3rd wave or...?

What do
If you look at the numbers of those vaccinated in the UK, especially the population that's over 50 it's got around a 91% uptake. I laid it out in this post here, but the TL;DR is that the population of those who are vaccinated is much larger, causing the larger number.
 
Flu infections are down this cycle because of masking. The fluicidal scumbags who sneezed and coughed their fucking viral loads all over everyone in shops and public transport have been compelled to gum up the inside of their masks instead. Plus, social distancing/lockdown limited the opportunities to pass this disgusting gift on. Flu rates should be back to normal in the coming cycle unless there is substantially greater uptake of a reasonably effective vaccine in the general population.
Pre-covid science for decades has never once showed that mask usage stopped the spread of influenza, quite the opposite. We know a ton about the flu, and I will not pretend that up is down anymore.
 
Every day I see headline after headline breathlessly proclaiming "experts say" more people need to get the "safe and effective" vaccine, each with a slightly different spin:

It's not just about you. Experts say getting a Covid-19 vaccine protects everyone around you​


Five undervaccinated clusters put the entire United States at risk​


Almost all new COVID-19 cases are among people who have not been vaccinated​


Gen Z wants to 'wait a little bit' to get COVID vaccine. Experts say there's no time to waste.

St. Louis mother advocates for COVID vaccine after losing daughter​


A Missouri couple says they dragged their feet on getting the Covid-19 vaccine. Then they got sick​


Covid Now Infecting Mostly Younger People In Los Angeles; 83% Of New Cases Under 50 Years Old​


COVID-19 mRNA vaccines and Myocarditis: benefits outweigh the risks, says WHO committee​


Pregnant women should take Covid vaccines, data shows they are safe: Dr VK Paul



All these articles reminded me of something, then it hit me: before the election, there were "journalists" who got up every day with the mission of "what article can I write today which will convince people Trump is LITERALLY HITLER?" "What piece can I write which will finally be the one that brings him down?"

Day after day, that's all they wrote, article after article. These desperate vaxx shills are doing the same thing. Spin after spin of propaganda articles. "What hot take can I write today which will convince a few more to get the jab?" "What angle can I take that might change a few more minds?"

And like the TDS writers, they are convinced they are Morally Right and on a holy mission to save us.
 
I am amazed that people are still debating covid and variants. The MSM and even the internet (including those bots on twatter the guy posted) have done a fantastic job in the last 1,5 years. From the beginning they claimed this "deadly and dangerous virus" has the symptoms of the flu, they stopped recording the flu at all. If this does not make your eyebrows flip stop reading here.

I have noticed patterns in people who had very bad symptoms from the flu combined with "something else", this something never seemed to be a virus to me but some kind of substance that was given to people in different ways. This is what covid is, its a bad reaction of flu+something. The variants are just the common cold or the flu that may change year by year and thats completely normal.

The genius idea in this operation was using the flu that billions of people catch every year combined with fear propaganda and fake PCR tests (even the guy who invented those claimed on video those are not to test people for viruses, he also died before this show started). The datas from PCR were so fake they had to invent the "asymptomatic" person, that before this show was known as the "sane" person.

If this is not enough, the goal of the kind people on top that care so much about you was the "vaxxines" from the begin. Want proof? Fraudci leaked emails have the proof, among the most interesting ones there was one from Zuckerbergerstein, claiming he was ready to help in any way possible for the development of a vaxxine (this email is fron Feb 2020). As you should know the income of those people has skyrocketed during the lockdown, so the question you should ask yourself, why would a person want to make less money by spending money to fix a situation where he is becoming richer?

Talking about the virus and the variants and all this bullshit they are filling the normies with is exactly what those people want, the ETERNAL CUCKOLD MASK (people still use even in the open) will give them enough time to go on with the plan, whatever the goal is.
You forgot the part where anyone that stated (and probably still) that COVID is just a stronger flu was banned from social media and labeled a conspiracy theorist.

That was one of the first things they did back last April was scream about how COVID "wasn't the flu." The fact that the common cold (with no cure) IS a coronavirus was never mentioned.

All these articles reminded me of something, then it hit me: before the election, there were "journalists" who got up every day with the mission of "what article can I write today which will convince people Trump is LITERALLY HITLER?" "What piece can I write which will finally be the one that brings him down?"

Day after day, that's all they wrote, article after article. These desperate vaxx shills are doing the same thing. Spin after spin of propaganda articles. "What hot take can I write today which will convince a few more to get the jab?" "What angle can I take that might change a few more minds?"

And like the TDS writers, they are convinced they are Morally Right and on a holy mission to save us.

I think there is something to the idea that with Orange Cheeto Hitler gone, journalists desperately need their next scare tactic to keep their jobs because news viewerships and article clicks started plummetting and their trying to replace Trump with DeSantis/Carlson wasn't working like they hoped.
 
Almost all new COVID-19 cases are among people who have not been vaccinated
No shit, almost as if the Vaccine protects you from it and if you are Vaccinated you can stop worrying about it.

COVID-19 mRNA vaccines and Myocarditis: benefits outweigh the risks, says WHO committee​

Okay now I actually think the Vaccine is dangerous.
 

Ok, so is it just too early in the morning and I'm falling for actual fake news, or is clown world this bad?

So apparently you can get literal soft drinks to get fake positives on take home COVID tests.

Teenagers have figured out how to use soft drinks to fake a positive COVID-19 test, and the authors of a new study warn schools and other groups to be aware. As of July 1, videos uploaded to social media under the search term #fakecovidtest, featuring young people applying various liquids to rapid antigen COVID-19 tests, had been viewed millions of times, according to the British news website inews.co.uk. That report https://bit.ly/3hLMoWT, and others, prompted University of Liverpool researchers to study the effects of applying soft drinks and artificial sweeteners to the test swabs. All four sweeteners tested produced negative results on rapid COVID-19 tests, as did spring water. But 10 of 14 soft drinks produced positive or weakly positive results, with no apparent link between the test results and the soft drinks' ingredients, the researchers reported on Monday on medRxiv ahead of peer review. Since March, UK schools have asked pupils without symptoms to test twice weekly, the authors note. A positive test can result in an entire class having to isolate at home. Based on their findings, they advise, testing "should be performed first thing in the morning, prior to the consumption of any food or drinks, and supervised where feasible."
My God. That one schizo guy was right about carbonation all along.
 
Okay, I have a question as someone who had the 1st dose (my immunity is shit and I'm prone to pneumonia, so I didn't want to risk it) and is strongly reconsidering the 2nd one. This table says done vaccinated with 1st dose have lower number of deaths, hospitalisations than those without a vaccine but also less than those with 2 doses. Based of what I read, the first one is supposed to be a primer and the second one is specifically targeting this covid. Some number say 1st dose lowers your risk by 50%, other sources claim 80%. Officials want to shorten the waiting time period so that people get vaccinated quickly- but then other source says that delaying 2nd dose (waiting 12 weeks) produced better results in terms of immunity. Are the officials ignoring that because waiting more is inconvenient for managing 3rd wave or...?

What do

They are ignoring because politically the first person to say Vaccines do not work and all of the effort was for nothing will get the rope and confidence in government will be destroyed forever

You will be tripping over dead vaccinated bodies before they admit anything is wrong. There can be ZERO reversal on the subject and all illusions will be maintained at any cost because the alternative is literally hundreds of millions of people seething with rage at public officials for pushing experimental jabs.

You will Jab whether it works or not.
 
They are ignoring because politically the first person to say Vaccines do not work and all of the effort was for nothing will get the rope and confidence in government will be destroyed forever

You will be tripping over dead vaccinated bodies before they admit anything is wrong. There can be ZERO reversal on the subject and all illusions will be maintained at any cost because the alternative is literally hundreds of millions of people seething with rage at public officials for pushing experimental jabs.

You will Jab whether it works or not.

Scientists literally admitted that they didn't investigate the Wuhan lab leak theory because they didn't want to be labeled Trump supporters.

Even if you think science is objective; scientists are not. Even those that aren't on the crazy left will still not speak out since it's been made very clear that going against the narrative will end your career.
 
Every day I see headline after headline breathlessly proclaiming "experts say" more people need to get the "safe and effective" vaccine, each with a slightly different spin:

It's not just about you. Experts say getting a Covid-19 vaccine protects everyone around you​


Five undervaccinated clusters put the entire United States at risk​


Almost all new COVID-19 cases are among people who have not been vaccinated​


Gen Z wants to 'wait a little bit' to get COVID vaccine. Experts say there's no time to waste.

St. Louis mother advocates for COVID vaccine after losing daughter​


A Missouri couple says they dragged their feet on getting the Covid-19 vaccine. Then they got sick​


Covid Now Infecting Mostly Younger People In Los Angeles; 83% Of New Cases Under 50 Years Old​


COVID-19 mRNA vaccines and Myocarditis: benefits outweigh the risks, says WHO committee​


Pregnant women should take Covid vaccines, data shows they are safe: Dr VK Paul



All these articles reminded me of something, then it hit me: before the election, there were "journalists" who got up every day with the mission of "what article can I write today which will convince people Trump is LITERALLY HITLER?" "What piece can I write which will finally be the one that brings him down?"

Day after day, that's all they wrote, article after article. These desperate vaxx shills are doing the same thing. Spin after spin of propaganda articles. "What hot take can I write today which will convince a few more to get the jab?" "What angle can I take that might change a few more minds?"

And like the TDS writers, they are convinced they are Morally Right and on a holy mission to save us.


The propaganda is literally endless. Vague articles with personal stories of unnamed doctors treating packed hospital wards full of supposedly unvaccinated people.

Meanwhile everywhere else we look where tables and charts are presented, the Vaccination makes no difference.

Makes you wonder

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Scientists literally admitted that they didn't investigate the Wuhan lab leak theory because they didn't want to be labeled Trump supporters.

Even if you think science is objective; scientists are not. Even those that aren't on the crazy left will still not speak out since it's been made very clear that going against the narrative will end your career.

Not only that Pfizer and Moderna literally got the Spike Sequence to make the mRNA jabs from China 2 days after the outbreak was declared.

You know what's funny? China and Russia do not even use the Spike on their vaccines. I think there is some major fuckery with this.

China literally suggested inoculating against the Spike Proteins was a solution and then did not use that solution. This has been forgotten about.

If we are waiting on Scientists to admit their mistakes forget it.

No shit, almost as if the Vaccine protects you from it and if you are Vaccinated you can stop worrying about it.


Okay now I actually think the Vaccine is dangerous.

Mycarditis, like blood clots is happening in everyone...you do not always feel it but it is happening.

Its a permanent condition that causes irreparable damage and can take decades off your life. Some people get it severe enough to require hospitalization immediately, others wont noticed for another 20 years but by then it can be chalked up as old age.

(They knew)
 
Not only that Pfizer and Moderna literally got the Spike Sequence to make the mRNA jabs from China 2 days after the outbreak was declared.

You know what's funny? China and Russia do not even use the Spike on their vaccines. I think there is some major fuckery with this.

China literally suggested inoculating against the Spike Proteins was a solution and then did not use that solution. This has been forgotten about.

If we are waiting on Scientists to admit their mistakes forget it.
Was actually wondering about that myself recently, why it was that the Chinese did not use mRNA tech. They have no problem stealing tech, and I don't doubt they could've gotten their hands on the formula before it made it out of trials.
 
Well I of course don't know why the vaccine is harmful to people, but it sure as shit is a lot safer than getting the virus itself.
How much safer is the vaccine? There are deaths caused by the vaccine that the general public, and those subject to this experimental medication, should be made 100% aware of. They aren't being told of the dangers and that is the problem.
You need to give me evidence to back up your claims that the numbers have been fudged, instead of sitting on your high horse and branding me as "biased".
You need to get over yourself, as you seem to be hung up on this bias, which you are guilty of.

As it is according to reasonable sources, 9000 people in the US are dead from a vaccine that 150,000,000 people (0.006% deaths) have gotten, and 600,000 people are dead from a virus that at least 33,000,000 (0.18%) have gotten. Even if the virus had hit twice as many people, that alone shows how the vaccine is useful in preventing further deaths and disease.

Those numbers are incorrect. 180 million+ people have caught the virus. 9500 known deaths and a lot more side effects that aren't being openly explained to the public.
You have brought literally nothing to the table to prove your point, but you complain I'm calling you stupid? Get over yourself.
What have you brought to the table? Your own numbers to prove your own point are incorrect. You can't even defend your own position with evidence.
 
Something on the immune response situations.

The Lupus Foundation of America estimates that 1.5 million Americans, and at least five million people worldwide, have a form of lupus. 1 in 3 lupus patients suffer from multiple autoimmune diseases.

SARS-CoV-2 vaccines in patients with SLE
(i.e. Lupus)
The current mRNA vaccines for COVID-19 possess the advantages of enhanced stability and translational efficacy that potentiate the persistence of immunogen expression59; additionally, the high immunogenic potency elicits strong immune responses.60 61 These two advantages, when combined together, may cause more immune stimulation than conventional vaccines that could potentially induce exacerbations in patients with existing autoimmune disorders or unmask de novo autoimmune diseases in predisposed individuals.

 
Every day I see headline after headline breathlessly proclaiming "experts say" more people need to get the "safe and effective" vaccine, each with a slightly different spin:

It's not just about you. Experts say getting a Covid-19 vaccine protects everyone around you​


Five undervaccinated clusters put the entire United States at risk​


Almost all new COVID-19 cases are among people who have not been vaccinated​


Gen Z wants to 'wait a little bit' to get COVID vaccine. Experts say there's no time to waste.

St. Louis mother advocates for COVID vaccine after losing daughter​


A Missouri couple says they dragged their feet on getting the Covid-19 vaccine. Then they got sick​


Covid Now Infecting Mostly Younger People In Los Angeles; 83% Of New Cases Under 50 Years Old​


COVID-19 mRNA vaccines and Myocarditis: benefits outweigh the risks, says WHO committee​


Pregnant women should take Covid vaccines, data shows they are safe: Dr VK Paul



All these articles reminded me of something, then it hit me: before the election, there were "journalists" who got up every day with the mission of "what article can I write today which will convince people Trump is LITERALLY HITLER?" "What piece can I write which will finally be the one that brings him down?"

Day after day, that's all they wrote, article after article. These desperate vaxx shills are doing the same thing. Spin after spin of propaganda articles. "What hot take can I write today which will convince a few more to get the jab?" "What angle can I take that might change a few more minds?"

And like the TDS writers, they are convinced they are Morally Right and on a holy mission to save us.
The coming approved narrative: the dirty unvaccinated are why Covid is mutating.

1st order effect- hand waive away why the vaccines are proving useless at stopping spread. If only everyone would get the jab then we would stop the virus.

2nd order effect- further demonizing Trump supporters. It's obvious that it's conservatives who they'll target with their propaganda bullshit.

Like always whatever the government and the media tell us believe the exact opposite.
 
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