Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[The golden neckbeard]

Was actually wondering about that myself recently, why it was that the Chinese did not use mRNA tech. They have no problem stealing tech, and I don't doubt they could've gotten their hands on the formula before it made it out of trials.

Because China know the Spike IS the disease that causes the clots and destroys blood vessels

https://twitter.com/maybe60794885/status/1413418199551463424

For 99% of us who are healthy, the virus never makes it past the nasal passage and upper respiratory system and only a handful of cells actually get infected.

For those who have jabbed, you literally have gave the worst part of the Virus access to your blood stream and permission to manufacture this toxin.

 

[Bosmadden]

Well I of course don't know why the vaccine is harmful to people, but it sure as shit is a lot safer than getting the virus itself.

You need to give me evidence to back up your claims that the numbers have been fudged, instead of sitting on your high horse and branding me as "biased". As it is according to reasonable sources, 9000 people in the US are dead from a vaccine that 150,000,000 people (0.006% deaths) have gotten, and 600,000 people are dead from a virus that at least 33,000,000 (0.18%) have gotten. Even if the virus had hit twice as many people, that alone shows how the vaccine is useful in preventing further deaths and disease.

You have brought literally nothing to the table to prove your point, but you complain I'm calling you stupid? Get over yourself.


The guy who made the test also wrote the forward and associated himself with a movement that denies that HIV causes AIDS. He doesn't get to decide what tests do and don't work, and if you think he does, maybe you should scratch yourself up with some needles you find in disposal boxes.

Flu incidences also decreased as people were taking precautions to prevent getting sick.

If you look at the numbers of those vaccinated in the UK, especially the population that's over 50 it's got around a 91% uptake. I laid it out in this post here, but the TL;DR is that the population of those who are vaccinated is much larger, causing the larger number.

The data you're referring to was collected from October 2020 to July 2021, it's not a snapshot over a week or even a month. We can be sure that "91% of the over 50's" were not vaccinated over that time as there was no vaccinations in October last year and mass vaccination in the UK only really got going in the second quarter of 2021. I personally can't be assed trawling through data to come up with a weighted average but safe to say you're talking utter shit.

 

[Meriasek]

Also, our Head Branch Covidian and highly flaunted "health expert" who has spent the past 1.5 years on a constant circulation in TV talkshows rather than, y'know, practicing what he preaches and staying home or doing his regular job as a member of parliament, Karl Lauterbach, is now concerned that the vaccines might not work well without lockdowns and restrictions.
And I think politics and politicians don't work well without a healthy fear of brutal public execution in case of utter corruption and treason.
Maybe we should make scaphism a reality, although as I said earlier, decimatio and impalement should already provide a good incentive for politicians to behave.
Sawing and, because they all love China so much, Lingchi could be reinstated, too. We can learn so much from the past.

/edit:
Oh, I forgot about the Breaking Wheel. That was a good one.

 

[The golden neckbeard]

Also, our Head Branch Covidian and highly flaunted "health expert" who has spent the past 1.5 years on a constant circulation in TV talkshows rather than, y'know, practicing what he preaches and staying home or doing his regular job as a member of parliament, Karl Lauterbach, is now concerned that the vaccines might not work well without lockdowns and restrictions.
And I think politics and politicians don't work well without a healthy fear of brutal public execution in case of utter corruption and treason.
Maybe we should make scaphism a reality, although as I said earlier, decimatio and impalement should already provide a good incentive for politicians to behave.
Sawing and, because they all love China so much, Lingchi could be reinstated, too. We can learn so much from the past.

I had to google Scaphism.
That is probably the most horrible and creative way to kill someone.

Look at the positives of all this. As the population gets more and more angry there is an increasing chance they do something about it.

If only we could get a 2008 like economic collapse then I think we would see people start crossing the rubicon

 

[Salubrious]

Those numbers are incorrect. 180 million+ people have caught the virus. 9500 known deaths and a lot more side effects that aren't being openly explained to the public.

Also, 600K Americans did not die FROM the virus. They died WITH the virus. That is a major major difference.

Someone that comes into the hospital with a case of "4 gunshot wounds to the chest" should not have counted in the number. Someone that died after a 10 year battle with cancer should not have counted in the number. But they blatantly lied about the numbers the entire time because that was their one chance to get Trump out of office (and it worked).

I don't know how many people caught the virus, but I do know that it's higher than the "official" number, simply because people that were asympotamatic probably didn't get tested. Or in a few cases with my friends, they charged $280 for a test if you had indirect contact, so some people just didn't bother and quarantined for the two weeks without an "official" diagnosis.

 

[Protistology]

Because China know the Spike IS the disease that causes the clots and destroys blood vessels

https://twitter.com/maybe60794885/status/1413418199551463424

For 99% of us who are healthy, the virus never makes it past the nasal passage and upper respiratory system and only a handful of cells actually get infected.

For those who have jabbed, you literally have gave the worst part of the Virus access to your blood stream and permission to manufacture this toxin.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Because China know the Spike IS the disease that causes the clots and destroys blood vessels

https://twitter.com/maybe60794885/status/1413418199551463424

For 99% of us who are healthy, the virus never makes it past the nasal passage and upper respiratory system and only a handful of cells actually get infected.

For those who have jabbed, you literally have gave the worst part of the Virus access to your blood stream and permission to manufacture this toxin.

The modified adenovirus vaccines don't do this. They introduce the protein spike to your body, so you'll get side effects as long as it's present (blood clotting seems to be the most common with that one), but you aren't manufacturing it yourself. It would be interesting to see a breakdown of symptoms and severity by vaccine type.

 

[Billy Beer]

Also, 600K Americans did not die FROM the virus. They died WITH the virus. That is a major major difference.

Someone that comes into the hospital with a case of "4 gunshot wounds to the chest" should not have counted in the number. Someone that died after a 10 year battle with cancer should not have counted in the number. But they blatantly lied about the numbers the entire time because that was their one chance to get Trump out of office (and it worked).

I don't know how many people caught the virus, but I do know that it's higher than the "official" number, simply because people that were asympotamatic probably didn't get tested. Or in a few cases with my friends, they charged $280 for a test if you had indirect contact, so some people just didn't bother and quarantined for the two weeks without an "official" diagnosis.

I agree with all of this. But I've never gotten my head around Asymptomatic covid.

How can you have the world's deadliest airborne super aids, and yet show no signs that you have it? It makes no sense. Surely its more logical that the test was a false positive? Otherwise the virus is a bit of a pussy

 

[Bosmadden]

No shit, almost as if the Vaccine protects you from it and if you are Vaccinated you can stop worrying about it.


Okay now I actually think the Vaccine is dangerous.

The CDC has literally stopped counting positive cases in the vaccinated

COVID-19 Breakthrough Case Investigations and Reporting | CDC

Information and resources to help public health departments and laboratories investigate and report COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough cases.

www.cdc.gov

As of May 1, 2021, CDC transitioned from monitoring all reported vaccine breakthrough cases to focus on identifying and investigating only hospitalized or fatal cases due to any cause. This shift will help maximize the quality of the data collected on cases of greatest clinical and public health importance.

For the vaccinated returning a positive PCR test no longer counts as a Covid case.

Only cases that lead to hospitalization and even then only cases that have been confirmed both by a PCR test of less than 28 cycles and a positive sputum result will be counted in the numbers.

Note that, at least so far, the UK continues to report positive cases according to PCR testing, and they've shown that the vaccines do not stop or even slow transmission. This is extremely embarrassing to the Branch Covdian movement.

 

[Lina Colorado]

I don't know if mentioned already, so apologies... But that "Long Covid" also obviously has to do with the fact that alot of old covid patients have been in a induced coma on the ventilator. Recovering from being connected to machines is brutal and takes months to get back to a "normal" life.
I remember seeing a man on tv that's been on the machines for 3 weeks total and after he woke up, he could not lift his fingers anymore let alone stand up, his lungcapacity was very shitty and he lost 20 pounds. Recovery from THAT is even worse than a bad covid infection.

 

[The High Prophet of Truth]

https://twitter.com/VP/status/1414241402532290571

 

[Cycleye]

In the UK, right now, there are 100's of thousands are out on the streets and getting mashed in pubs and houses all over the fucking place. This has been the case for hours before the game with Italy has even started. The branch covidians are freaking out, unless they are football supporters, of course, but the media is caught very much in the middle between football nationalism and the super deadly virus. Football sells alot better so it is winning, presently. If England wins the virus might not get a look-in for a good while. Even an uptick in cases due to all the post match sex will be ignored. If we loose it will be blamed on the virus and we will be reminded we will all be dead soon, every 5 mins, due to the Tom Jones variant. We will run out of greek words 24hours post match and move on to male singers. Calling it now.

 

[The High Prophet of Truth]

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1414272338800033797

 

[Mrs. Addams]

Okay, I have a question as someone who had the 1st dose (my immunity is shit and I'm prone to pneumonia, so I didn't want to risk it) and is strongly reconsidering the 2nd one. This table says done vaccinated with 1st dose have lower number of deaths, hospitalisations than those without a vaccine but also less than those with 2 doses. Based of what I read, the first one is supposed to be a primer and the second one is specifically targeting this covid. Some number say 1st dose lowers your risk by 50%, other sources claim 80%. Officials want to shorten the waiting time period so that people get vaccinated quickly- but then other source says that delaying 2nd dose (waiting 12 weeks) produced better results in terms of immunity. Are the officials ignoring that because waiting more is inconvenient for managing 3rd wave or...?

What do

Personally, if you didn't have any side effects from the first dose, I'd probably follow through and get the second just to circumvent all the political red tape that vaccinated people have to deal with. You've sorta married the idea that the vaccine is helpful so I don't see a point in not following through.

You need to give me evidence to back up your claims that the numbers have been fudged, instead of sitting on your high horse and branding me as "biased". As it is according to reasonable sources, 9000 people in the US are dead from a vaccine that 150,000,000 people (0.006% deaths) have gotten, and 600,000 people are dead from a virus that at least 33,000,000 (0.18%) have gotten. Even if the virus had hit twice as many people, that alone shows how the vaccine is useful in preventing further deaths a

I feel like most of the stats for all this have been discussed upthread. So people yelling, "Give me evidence!" just haven't read the last... 2640 pages.

 

[General Disarray]

The coming approved narrative: the dirty unvaccinated are why Covid is mutating.

1st order effect- hand waive away why the vaccines are proving useless at stopping spread. If only everyone would get the jab then we would stop the virus.

2nd order effect- further demonizing Trump supporters. It's obvious that it's conservatives who they'll target with their propaganda bullshit.

Like always whatever the government and the media tell us believe the exact opposite.

Already starting. Saw Faux-chi on some Sunday morning news broadcast, and he said this new variant, as Covid itself, has no bias towards a political party and that the Republicans, who have anti-government sentiment baked into their philosophy, must step up and do their part!

 

[Super-Chevy454]

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Tell us how you'll feel after you got the second dose. I doubt she might check that clip from Sky News about the Delta variant who kills more vaccinated than unvaccinated.

 

[Protistology]

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Personally, if you didn't have any side effects from the first dose, I'd probably follow through and get the second just to circumvent all the political red tape that vaccinated people have to deal with. You've sorta married the idea that the vaccine is helpful so I don't see a point in not following through.

I feel like most of the stats for all this have been discussed upthread. So people yelling, "Give me evidence!" just haven't read the last... 2640 pages.

Except that it's the second dose that's killing people.

 

[Bosmadden]

Tell us how you'll feel after you got the second dose. I doubt she might check that clip from Sky News about the Delta variant who kills more vaccinated than unvaccinated.

That clip is what I think marketer's refer to as messaging for retards.

One third of the dead are among the unvaccinated two thirds are vaccinated. They admit this in the graphic but the journalist plays word games to hide it.

While admitting that more of the vaccinated have died he edits down the number by excluding those who have died with one jab and just mentions those who have died with two.

He then ignores the numbers and makes a rhetorical declaration that "the vaccines work but aren't perfect". Even though the giant graphic behind him is telling us this is bullshit.

Already starting. Saw Faux-chi on some Sunday morning news broadcast, and he said this new variant, as Covid itself, has no bias towards a political party and that the Republicans, who have anti-government sentiment baked into their philosophy, must step up and do their part!

They're itching to bring in mandatory vaccination but that ship sailed a while ago. At this point the people who haven't been vaccinated don't want to be vaccinated and the government screaming at them is just confirming their conviction.

Also they're teeing up their excuses as to why the vaccines are so fucking terrible at inoculating people from Covid, you know the one thing a vaccine is supposed to do.

Personally, if you didn't have any side effects from the first dose, I'd probably follow through and get the second just to circumvent all the political red tape that vaccinated people have to deal with. You've sorta married the idea that the vaccine is helpful so I don't see a point in not following through.

She should go talk to her doctor about taking Ivermectin and a steroid inhaler.

There's enough research now to suggest that they're pretty decent preventatives, unlike the vaccines. Also even if they don't work they're completely harmless, unlike the vaccines.

 

[Lichen Bark]

No one I know who had covid experienced this, though. Some did lose their sense of smell for a bit, but that can heal in time.

Just a random anecdote, if I rewind over a decade I remember this was a common symptom when my mother came down with a cold. She usually lost her sense of taste and smell every cold. It never usually happens to me, but it did once, and was weird. We both are ok, and our smellers are functional, hers is still sensitive.

So the flu goes to near zero but the "covid" goes to millions even tho the same rules of cuckold masking and distancing were in place?

Your logic is quite laughable, please consider taking the safe and effective vaxx asap to protect yourself from "covid".

Reeee aerosol spreading reeeeee lower viral load infects reeeeeee
There's tons of explanations. My personal explanation is that if we were to test as hard for other coronaviridae or influenza, we'd probably see similar numbers.

Just want to point out the precautions for a flu patient are "droplet/contact" so gown, surgical mask (sometimes with the face shield), gloves. COVID is "airborne" precautions. So, yes wearing a mask would affect influenzas ability to spread vs. covid. I know I've ranted about his. Also people aren't going to the hospitals/doctors when they get a flu anymore for fear of covid, so you're going to see a drop from that as well. It might be unpopular to say this, but going on hospital practices, masks would hurt a flu seasons numbers. Though, you can't discount the amount of adults who didn't know they need to wash their hands. I've mentioned this in much earlier posts, but I was shocked about how people I know were somehow amazed by the "miracle of handwashing." Even in hospitals there are constant reminders for staff to wash their hands, and they are professionals!

The CDC has literally stopped counting positive cases in the vaccinated

COVID-19 Breakthrough Case Investigations and Reporting | CDC

Information and resources to help public health departments and laboratories investigate and report COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough cases.

www.cdc.gov

For the vaccinated returning a positive PCR test no longer counts as a Covid case.

Only cases that lead to hospitalization and even then only cases that have been confirmed both by a PCR test of less than 28 cycles and a positive sputum result will be counted in the numbers.

Note that, at least so far, the UK continues to report positive cases according to PCR testing, and they've shown that the vaccines do not stop or even slow transmission. This is extremely embarrassing to the Branch Covdian movement.

For your comedy viewing(video comments are funny), Moderna cofounder admits you're gonna need a yearly shot. I looked into the California variant, Epsilon? Anyway that thing was first seen after 1 month of vaccinating in California back in February 2020, so it isn't exactly new, but it is surprising how fast it seemed to develop to thwart antibodies, after California started vaccinations.

 

[King Dead]

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Oh no wait, it gets even better. This account didn't even quote the best part:

CNN Medical Analyst Wen: Life 'Needs to Be Hard' for Unvaccinated Americans

CNN medical contributor Dr. Leana Wen said Friday that life needs to be "hard" for Americans who have not received a coronavirus vaccine with "twice weekly testings." | Clips

www.breitbart.com

Wen, the former Planned Parenthood president, said, “So now we have this delta variant that is much more contagious. Because it’s more contagious, it’s going to be even harder for us to reach herd immunity. We’re going to have to vaccinate an even higher proportion of people to get there. What happens, then, if we end up having another variant developing that’s even more contagious, that could cause more disease, that could evade the protection of our immune system?”

This absolute fucking cunt is seriously trying to suggest that a variant that's more transmissible will make it harder to reach herd immunity. Once again, the talking heads are trying to gaslight the public into thinking that herd immunity is only possible through vaccinations, even though these "vaccines" don't actually prevent infection. And then she has the gall to pretend that the super-scary delta variant is deadlier when it's actually pretty much a cold now, just like all of us who understand germ theory predicted months ago. All of this in the name of pushing this snake oil on people.

In a sane world, saying this sort of shit would cause you to lose any and all licenses to practice medicine. Instead, it gets you on CNN. Whatever happened to "first do no harm?"