Trashfire 07/08/2021: Gunt VS Matthew Vickers, Battle of Custody Begins

cistendered said:
The featured entry for this thread on the front page has a link to a screenshot of the court case. Based on the way California restraining orders work, Ralph technically already has a restraining order in place. What Vickers would qualify for is called a Civil Harassment restraining order. The page which describes what that looks like is here: https://www.courts.ca.gov/1044.htm

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Given that a hearing has been granted, this implies that a judge has already reviewed the evidence and determined Ralph is enough of a threat to warrant a restraining order. This puts Gunt at a pretty big disadvantage. He now has 4 days, 2 of which are non-court days, to find an attorney, give the attorney enough info to counter whatever evidence Vickers has submitted (which is unknown at this time) and appear in court.

Interestingly, CA restraining orders are much broader than I originally thought. From that same page:

Not only would the order apply to Vickers home and business, since those are his property, but it also becomes a no contact order for Faith and Xander. Ralph wouldn't legally be able to see his kid even if he and Faith met independently away from Vickers properties.
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So what would happen if the Gunt Guards went after Vickers and violated the order and not Ralph himself? What if it was not even at his behest? This could get very entertaining makes me think.
 
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MeltyTW said:
"g-ggayta, g-gayta!"
"yeah buddy?"
"FLAYG THA COORT GAYTA, FYREBAOMB THA COURT. THA STOLE MAH INTEALECTOOAL PROPERTAH!"
and thus gaytor confined to a life of niggertude and slavery dawned his illfitting lucha mask
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With all this shit going on, it really makes me wonder. Is Shannon just that easily bought off or does he genuinely believe Ralph's bullshit? If a group of people got a small sum of money together, could we buy Shannon off and rob the Gunt of his most consistent gunt guard? If he didn't have consistent backup on social media to run interference he'd implode into a ball of alcoholic manlet rage and MAYBE go to California in person.
 
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CatgirlTyranid said:
With all this shit going on, it really makes me wonder. Is Shannon just that easily bought off or does he genuinely believe Ralph's bullshit? If a group of people got a small sum of money together, could we buy Shannon off and rob the Gunt of his most consistent gunt guard? If he didn't have consistent backup on social media to run interference he'd implode into a ball of alcoholic manlet rage and MAYBE go to California in person.
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ive thought of that but i decided i have more dignity than throwing crumbs so a human cockroach like gaytor can can be my yes man bitch, (cough cough @CECA Loather ) that and i think paypigging someone who shouldnt have the money to win an online argument or troll them is a bit dumb and counterproductive. no i say let gaytor fester off of his 1/4th share of the 4 cent haul. maybe ceca will give them a whole dollar they can split.

hypothetically though i think gaytor despite my jokes isnt so much a mercenary but as a fed up friend who doesnt like current ralph but liked the thin facade of the past enough to fawn over him for money, i just cant fathom why else anyone would stick around the gunt like he has.
 
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cistendered said:
The featured entry for this thread on the front page has a link to a screenshot of the court case. Based on the way California restraining orders work, Ralph technically already has a restraining order in place. What Vickers would qualify for is called a Civil Harassment restraining order. The page which describes what that looks like is here: https://www.courts.ca.gov/1044.htm

In particular:

Given that a hearing has been granted, this implies that a judge has already reviewed the evidence and determined Ralph is enough of a threat to warrant a restraining order. This puts Gunt at a pretty big disadvantage. He now has 4 days, 2 of which are non-court days, to find an attorney, give the attorney enough info to counter whatever evidence Vickers has submitted (which is unknown at this time) and appear in court.

Interestingly, CA restraining orders are much broader than I originally thought. From that same page:

Not only would the order apply to Vickers home and business, since those are his property, but it also becomes a no contact order for Faith and Xander. Ralph wouldn't legally be able to see his kid even if he and Faith met independently away from Vickers properties.
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Fai fai and xander definitely fall under "member of the household" at this time. Does California distinguish "child" as not adult/under 18 or simply offspring/adopted offspring for these purposes? If Fai Fai leaves the nest, is she fair gunt and guntguard game? And is the interpretation of child strict, or would they include several generations?
 
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mindlessobserver said:
I just love how Ralph consistently is the architect of his own undoing simply by the fact he is unwilling to just let things go and walk away.
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Are you telling me that if Ralph just ignored Triple P last year, the same PPP that introduced himself to the world by spreading his asshole on stream.me, then all of this wouldn't have snowballed so much?
 
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instythot said:
Fai fai and xander definitely fall under "member of the household" at this time. Does California distinguish "child" as not adult/under 18 or simply offspring/adopted offspring for these purposes? If Fai Fai leaves the nest, is she fair gunt and guntguard game? And is the interpretation of child strict, or would they include several generations?
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If she leaves the nest she's fair gunt game. The court can't stop her from seeking him out.
 
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jell0 said:
Got a better template fam.

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I don't have good shoop skills myself tbh.
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Sam Losco said:
"it's going to be very hard to break me, Vickers"
Ralph you fucking idiot, he doesn't care about buck breaking you, he just wants you to stay the fuck away and leave his family the fuck alone. You've done enough damage.
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its hilarious that he sees this as another internet slapfight with the aylawgs, i hope he rants about the vickers being "associated" with "peedofile joshoeuh cannar mewn" trying to find the posts that arent telling him hes a fucking idiot and to fuck off.


RichardRApe said:
"My Dad -- of course he's dead now -- but uh they said he was too mean to die... well I'm in a lil... I'm a bit healthier than he was and I quit drinking for a reason... for a big reason, to stay around this bitch."
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ronnie looked thin, massive x to doubt on him being healthier than ronnie, also ralph fuck you for trying to bury your dead fucking dad to get yourself over, no wonder he fucked you in the ass, you need to learn your place.

also absolutely btfo.
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cistendered said:
The featured entry for this thread on the front page has a link to a screenshot of the court case. Based on the way California restraining orders work, Ralph technically already has a restraining order in place. What Vickers would qualify for is called a Civil Harassment restraining order. The page which describes what that looks like is here: https://www.courts.ca.gov/1044.htm

In particular:

Given that a hearing has been granted, this implies that a judge has already reviewed the evidence and determined Ralph is enough of a threat to warrant a restraining order. This puts Gunt at a pretty big disadvantage. He now has 4 days, 2 of which are non-court days, to find an attorney, give the attorney enough info to counter whatever evidence Vickers has submitted (which is unknown at this time) and appear in court.

Interestingly, CA restraining orders are much broader than I originally thought. From that same page:

Not only would the order apply to Vickers home and business, since those are his property, but it also becomes a no contact order for Faith and Xander. Ralph wouldn't legally be able to see his kid even if he and Faith met independently away from Vickers properties.
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Come on buddy. It's linked on the front page! https://kiwifarms.net/threads/07-08...s-battle-of-custody-begins.94623/post-9452148

I couldn't read the screenshot on my phone, and I guess I misunderstood and thought the headline was in relation to a separate civil suit seeking damages for harassment.
 
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Takayuki Yagami said:
God it just doesn’t stop. Anyone else still feel some measure of sympathy for Vickers? I know he’s handled pretty much all of this terribly, but goddamn cleaning up after his crazy daughter while dealing with Ralph of all people would probably break my brain too.
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I'm not saying Vickers isn't a lolcow, but if I saw my 17 year old daughter start entering the Gunt's gravitational pull, I'd probably become a lolcow too out of desperation.
 
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InwardsStink said:
So what would happen if the Gunt Guards went after Vickers and violated the order and not Ralph himself? What if it was not even at his behest? This could get very entertaining makes me think.
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Restraining orders can include prohibitions on directly using friends to circumvent the order. If it was without his knowledge I'm thinking that wouldn't apply.
 
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Maldron the Assassin said:
I disagree, friend. I believe it would be in the true spirit of white trash to constantly interfere in your bastard's life.
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It’s the white trash way! Trash parents need to use children as pawns to settle petty vendettas and vent their spite and anger at people who care for the child. Ralph is the type of scum that would try to get visitations, not because he wants to care for his child, but just because it would anger and worry Vickers. The Vickers know an infant would not survive a weekend alone with Ralph.

I still can’t get over what an awful human Faith is. I mean, she ran away to be with Ralph, the grossest nastiest man imaginable, so idk why I’m surprised. Single cell organisms have better decision making abilities.

Her parents really need to consider suing for guardianship/custody over the baby and kicking her out. She’s demonstrated she’s going to make absolutely terrible, selfish life choices for the foreseeable future and the baby need not be on that ride and be traumatized for life. Faith obviously needs to totally fail at caring for herself for awhile before she (hopefully) comes to her senses.

I just wonder where things went so wrong with Faith that her life revolves around trying to make daddy fight terrible dirtbag boyfriends to give her life excitement. Given some of Vickers leanings I wonder if he really raised a daughter to believe being dumb and helpless was the way to get attention. He trained on firearm use, but not how to use her fucking brain to make good decisions.

Several times when Faith has been doing stupid shit he has excused it with “muh mental”, depression and “second trimester hormones” etc…bad decisions, bad behavior and lying are bad decisions, bad behavior and lying, irregardless of their cause. I understand he’s trying to protect her, but he should have let her start experiencing the consequences of her bad decisions. Flying to her rescue at a moment’s notice has just fed Faith’s stupid daddy vs Ralph drama addiction, ensured she learns zero self-reliance and that she can do whatever stupid shit she wants and can expect someone with a dick to rescue her.
 
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