Tabletop Community Watch

[LORD IMPERATOR]

If you disregard the idea of canon you're punishing fans for paying attention.

GW doesn't care. The lore of 40K exists for one reason and one reason only: to sell miniatures. They couldn't care less about the lore, and they will retcon it at the drop of a hat.

Once you're a target you're always going to be a target and nothing stops the slander. Call it a conspiracy theory all you want but there is definitely industry insiders using the mob to take down potential rivals. It's too easy to set them off and get them to fire talented people. Leftists are over socialized and spend all of their time networking among each other on social media and mailing lists (Games journo pro) doing these types of thing. If you went to college with someone more talented than you and they rubbed you the wrong way you can talk to a leftist journo and get a hit piece made on just about any one. An anonymous source doesn't have to be real.

You can basically imagine the politics of girls in high school cliques, and apply it to those leftists. It's pretty much the same shit, just with different-looking people. Games Journo Pro was an example of one such clique. They're just as petty as they are slanderous.

 

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Apparently TSR and Giantlands have cut ways.

Press release they reference:

TSR Cuts Ties with Wonderfilled Inc.

Lake Geneva, WI July 12, 2021 --(PR.com)-- Effective Thursday, July 8, 2021, Stephen Dinehart and Wonderfilled, Inc. have been released from the licensing agreement with TSR. TSR...

www.benzinga.com

TSR Cuts Ties with Wonderfilled Inc. | Benzinga

archived 12 Jul 2021 23:37:05 UTC

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Missed this:

https://twitter.com/GiantLands/status/1413598621858246662

GiantLands® on Twitter: "GiantLands will no longer be a released unde…

archived 12 Jul 2021 01:01:06 UTC

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Basically, the twitter mob has successfully destroyed the new TSR. They have managed to cause Giantlands to break their contract with them.

It won't save Giantlands.

As they also point out, this was clearly a prepared op. They don't want alternatives to Wokeshit WoTC / Paizo / etc. They were literally waiting on TSR to say something they could cancel them over.

 

[I'mma real anime gurl]

These fucks hate gatekeeping when it's applied to them, their table isn't big they just filled it with rapists and retards.

 

[SpaceMovie1992]

Apparently TSR and Giantlands have cut ways.

Press release they reference:


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TSR Cuts Ties with Wonderfilled Inc.

Lake Geneva, WI July 12, 2021 --(PR.com)-- Effective Thursday, July 8, 2021, Stephen Dinehart and Wonderfilled, Inc. have been released from the licensing agreement with TSR. TSR...

www.benzinga.com

TSR Cuts Ties with Wonderfilled Inc. | Benzinga

archived 12 Jul 2021 23:37:05 UTC

archive.ph

Missed this:

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https://twitter.com/GiantLands/status/1413598621858246662

GiantLands® on Twitter: "GiantLands will no longer be a released unde…

archived 12 Jul 2021 01:01:06 UTC

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Basically, the twitter mob has successfully destroyed the new TSR. They have managed to cause Giantlands to break their contract with them.

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It won't save Giantlands.

As they also point out, this was clearly a prepared op. They don't want alternatives to Wokeshit WoTC / Paizo / etc. They were literally waiting on TSR to say something they could cancel them over.

I know that law Twitter's best such as T. Greg (fat) and popehat (bald) could probably smug this away with a legally sound argument about how this whole situation is not libel and how dare you think that, but the concerned citizen in me really wants to know why people can start these career destroying outrage mobs over of *nothing* and get away with it.

It ain't right

 

[Capsaicin Addict]

I know that law Twitter's best such as T. Greg (fat) and popehat (bald) could probably smug this away with a legally sound argument about how this whole situation is not libel and how dare you think that, but the concerned citizen in me really wants to know why people can start these career destroying outrage mobs over of *nothing* and get away with it.

It ain't right

But it's KF that ruins lives right?

Yeah, you're not wrong. This is ridiculous. These faggots stir themselves up a big old pot of nontroversy and outrage, fling it around, and damned be the consequences.

 

[Mexican_Wizard_711]

Is the Giantlands dead?

 

[Shaka Brah]

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Is the Giantlands dead?

Who posted this?

 

[Mexican_Wizard_711]

Who posted this?

IDK, I found it in a thread with other steaming Twitter/Reddit hot takes. Here's another:

 

[Corn Flakes]

IDK, I found it in a thread with other steaming Twitter/Reddit hot takes. Here's another:

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Short answer:

Long answer: with everybody else making quirky, body-positive and genderfluid half-dragons, dark elves, orcs, goblins, kobolds, doppelgangers, firbolgs, goliaths, tieflings, leonin, aarakocra, genasi, aasimar, kenku, tabaxi, warforged, minotaurs and even goddamn tortles, all of them with exotic skin, eye and hair colors (natch), my brown-haired, green-eyed white-bread male human fighter with a sword and shield looks like an elegant minimalistic painting hanging on a heavily graffitied public bathroom wall. To quote Syndrome: when everybody is special, no one is.

Besides, in my experience hacks who go out of their way to make "unique" characters often spend so long working on how "quirky" and "interesting" their character is that they forget to actually play the damn characters. And what a character is, in terms of race and/or sex, has no bearing on what that character does. I've been playing RPGs for over 25 years now. I've played plain cisgender and heterosexual humans as assassins, nobles, assassin nobles, noble assassins, barbarians, holy warriors, people utterly consumed by revenge, victims of great injustice, servants to powerful entities, wolves in sheep's clothing, gentle giants, cold and calculating (figurative) monsters, mischief-makers, betrayers, naive adventurers, grizzled veterans, scholars, fools, thugs, and many more I probably forgot. Each one of them defined by their experiences, not their pronouns.

Get good, snowflake brigade.

 

[Agarathium1066]

Short answer:
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Long answer: with everybody else making quirky, body-positive and genderfluid half-dragons, dark elves, orcs, goblins, kobolds, doppelgangers, firbolgs, goliaths, tieflings, leonin, aarakocra, genasi, aasimar, kenku, tabaxi, warforged, minotaurs and even goddamn tortles, all of them with exotic skin, eye and hair colors (natch), my brown-haired, green-eyed white-bread male human fighter with a sword and shield looks like an elegant minimalistic painting hanging on a heavily graffitied public bathroom wall. To quote Syndrome: when everybody is special, no one is.

Get good, snowflake brigade.

Agree with the sentiment but Orcs and Goblins are pretty standard fantasy. They're right up there with Dwarves to me.

They do something weird with Warforged to make them snowflakey? What I last read they're basically just war machina that just barely are considered sapient now.

 

[EnemyStand]

Agree with the sentiment but Orcs and Goblins are pretty standard fantasy. They're right up there with Dwarves to me.

They do something weird with Warforged to make them snowflakey? What I last read they're basically just war machina that just barely are considered sapient now.

From what I've been told, it wasn't WotC, it was the players. Non-binary robots, man. With removable dicks.

 

[Agarathium1066]

From what I've been told, it wasn't WotC, it was the players. Non-binary robots, man. With removable dicks.

Laaaaame. If being a robot makes you non-binary then it means a brick is non-binary. That's stupid as hell.

 

[Shaka Brah]

IDK, I found it in a thread with other steaming Twitter/Reddit hot takes. Here's another:

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Why wouldn't I take a free feat at level 1? Human racials are strong as fuck.

 

[highlighter_shitposting]

IDK, I found it in a thread with other steaming Twitter/Reddit hot takes. Here's another:

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Fuck freakshit. That's all

 

[Flaming Insignias]

Short answer:
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Long answer: with everybody else making quirky, body-positive and genderfluid half-dragons, dark elves, orcs, goblins, kobolds, doppelgangers, firbolgs, goliaths, tieflings, leonin, aarakocra, genasi, aasimar, kenku, tabaxi, warforged, minotaurs and even goddamn tortles, all of them with exotic skin, eye and hair colors (natch), my brown-haired, green-eyed white-bread male human fighter with a sword and shield looks like an elegant minimalistic painting hanging on a heavily graffitied public bathroom wall. To quote Syndrome: when everybody is special, no one is.

Besides, in my experience hacks who go out of their way to make "unique" characters often spend so long working on how "quirky" and "interesting" their character is that they forget to actually play the damn characters. And what a character is, in terms of race and/or sex, has no bearing on what that character does. I've been playing RPGs for over 25 years now. I've played plain cisgender and heterosexual humans as assassins, nobles, assassin nobles, noble assassins, barbarians, holy warriors, people utterly consumed by revenge, victims of great injustice, servants to powerful entities, wolves in sheep's clothing, gentle giants, cold and calculating (figurative) monsters, mischief-makers, betrayers, naive adventurers, grizzled veterans, scholars, fools, thugs, and many more I probably forgot. Each one of them defined by their experiences, not their pronouns.

Get good, snowflake brigade.

If I may be honest, even some of demihumans can be interesting if played right, rather than making their main traits be that they are wacky and look funny. For instance, my current character is a Tiefling Samurai musclegirl with cherry-blossom pink hair. I chose this combination because I wanted to make a nonhuman character, and the thematics of a tiefling fit into the Oni mold enough for the story I had in mind of a hotheaded, hard-drinking young woman seeking revenge. However, I also do my best to make her a human being with dreams, fears, and interests rather than just "look at my totally creative Jester clone!"

It certainly helps that I usually play rather normal-looking, if handsome, humans and human-raised half-elves otherwise.

 

[SpaceMovie1992]

For instance, my current character is a Tiefling Samurai musclegirl with cherry-blossom pink hair. I chose this combination because I wanted to make a nonhuman character, and the thematics of a tiefling fit into the Oni mold enough for the story I had in mind of a hotheaded, hard-drinking young woman seeking revenge.

Cool story, how much time do you spend masturbating to this character relative to play time?

 

[Flaming Insignias]

Cool story, how much time do you spend masturbating to this character relative to play time?

Yeah, yeah, I've heard it all before: you can't make an attractive character and describe them without being a coomer. Putting in those little details into the post can't possibly be to prove a point about how my character has an exotic look while not being "Pickles McBurgersson the nonbinary firbolg therapist necromancer," it's just because I wanted fapbait.

 

[Corn Flakes]

If I may be honest, even some of demihumans can be interesting if played right, rather than making their main traits be that they are wacky and look funny. For instance, my current character is a Tiefling Samurai musclegirl with cherry-blossom pink hair. I chose this combination because I wanted to make a nonhuman character, and the thematics of a tiefling fit into the Oni mold enough for the story I had in mind of a hotheaded, hard-drinking young woman seeking revenge. However, I also do my best to make her a human being with dreams, fears, and interests rather than just "look at my totally creative Jester clone!"

That's fine. My point wasn't that you can't make interesting non-human characters, it was that you don't need a non-human to be interesting. What truly matters about the character is what they do, not what they look like or what set of genitals they have or like to fondle. I listed only the human characters I played because I wanted to make a point against the implication that playing a "cisgender white human" means you're being afraid of being interesting. I've played plenty of nonhumans, including some pretty bizarre characters, and most of them were fun to work with. But while their race and/or sexuality sometimes played a part in how they were... played (didn't think this sentence through), the characters were more than just Twitter profile Mad Libs.

Besides, there are interesting negative aspects to the "non-human, non-cisgender, non-white" BS that no one really really pays attention to that can absolutely help bring a lot of flavor to the character. Things, big or small, that challenge the character in their day-to-day lives. For example, a friend played a very large Goliath who had to be very careful where he leaned or sat down, because most chairs or benches you find in roadside inns just aren't made for a guy who weighs close to 450 lbs geared up. One I personally played was an outcast from a very strict matriarchal race who, besides being a gay dude, started out having serious difficulty trusting women. He got better as he went and throughout the campaign there was a lot of fun banter between him and the Lawful Good female paladin of Tyr.

This idea of the character also being limited or even hobbled by their inherent qualities is something you very rarely see these idiots doing. We had this debate in the general tabletop RPG thread when everybody was talking about that D&D "combat wheelchairs" splat a while back. A character on a wheelchair in D&D can be very interesting to play if the rest of the group is in on it. There are many limitations and very few (but possibly useful) benefits to an adventurer on a wheelchair, but it can be done. And yet, these people don't want that. They wanted their cripples to be as good, if not better, than a character with full use of their legs, and they cheered for a nonsensical "wheelchair accessible" dungeons. Instead of exploring the interesting implications of having a gay character in a world where even a single person not having kids is a problem for a village, they demand gay kings and archmages.

And then they dare call me boring for enjoying playing humans that are described as more than just [sexuality] [skin color] [gender] [race].

 

[Flaming Insignias]

That's fine. My point wasn't that you can't make interesting non-human characters, it was that you don't need a non-human to be interesting. What truly matters about the character is what they do, not what they look like or what set of genitals they have or like to fondle. I listed only the human characters I played because I wanted to make a point against the implication that playing a "cisgender white human" means you're being afraid of being interesting. I've played plenty of nonhumans, including some pretty bizarre characters, and most of them were fun to work with. But while their race and/or sexuality sometimes played a part in how they were... played (didn't think this sentence through), the characters were more than just Twitter profile Mad Libs.

Besides, there are interesting negative aspects to the "non-human, non-cisgender, non-white" BS that no one really really pays attention to that can absolutely help bring a lot of flavor to the character. Things, big or small, that challenge the character in their day-to-day lives. For example, a friend played a very large Goliath who had to be very careful where he leaned or sat down, because most chairs or benches you find in roadside inns just aren't made for a guy who weighs close to 450 lbs geared up. One I personally played was an outcast from a very strict matriarchal race who, besides being a gay dude, started out having serious difficulty trusting women. He got better as he went and throughout the campaign there was a lot of fun banter between him and the Lawful Good female paladin of Tyr.

This idea of the character also being limited or even hobbled by their inherent qualities is something you very rarely see these idiots doing. We had this debate in the general tabletop RPG thread when everybody was talking about that D&D "combat wheelchairs" splat a while back. A character on a wheelchair in D&D can be very interesting to play if the rest of the group is in on it. There are many limitations and very few (but possibly useful) benefits to an adventurer on a wheelchair, but it can be done. And yet, these people don't want that. They wanted their cripples to be as good, if not better, than a character with full use of their legs, and they cheered for a nonsensical "wheelchair accessible" dungeons. Instead of exploring the interesting implications of having a gay character in a world where even a single person not having kids is a problem for a village, they demand gay kings and archmages.

And then they dare call me boring for enjoying playing humans that are described as more than just [sexuality] [skin color] [gender] [race].

My apologies for if I sounded antagonistic, I just wanted to give my own beliefs on exotic characters and how they don’t have to constantly be at war with mundane character types like the Critters act. It’s nice to have people that share my sentiments.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

"My character is a tiefling mage with sensory issues for loud noises and bright lights who has a therapy hedgehog and who's pronouns are Xe, Xir, Xeself. She has pink hair, purple horns, and dresses in ripped fishnets, a blue miniskirt, and a black leather vest with a binder underneath. She was abandoned by her parents and raised by the fey, where she quickly became known for how quirky she is, tee hee!"

"You didn't fill in AC, HP, your saves, or anything regarding stats for your spells and weapons, you are a first level sorceress with fireball and wall of fire listed in your spells."

"Well I watch Critical Role and..."

"NEXT!"