Fat Acceptance Movement / Fat Girlcows

If you have time to cry about the dress code, you're not working hard enough, either. Is there anyone who actually believes this girl was at the gym to work out, rather than to do 30 minutes on the treadmill at a leisurely pace and then reward herself with something fried?

I watched her video, and she didn't claim that she was singled out for violating the dress code, nor did it sound like she was specifically called fat or anything. My understanding of the incident was that she was just told to leave after she had started "working out" ( :optimistic: ) and contrary to what she'd been told upon entering the facility. Nobody called her fat or targeted her specifically.

I wonder if she was doing something that came across as attention seeking and was then asked to leave. It's like the "service" dog girls in the Munchausen thread, who love to go out in public with their unleashed, vestless, fake service animals so that they can freeeeek out when confronted about having a dog in a place that forbids them.


I think you're correct about it not making any difference. At some point, there's just too much fat in the way, and it's impossible to get decent views, regardless of imaging modality. The laws of physics are super fatphobic.

For MRI, specifically, the body part being imaged has to fit in a "coil", which is what detects the magnetic resonance and produces an image. These coils are just not designed to accommodate bodies past a certain size. Here is what the standard knee coil looks like, as an example. Imagine Danielle McAllister or Anna/Glitterandlazers trying to put their knee into one of those. Here is a sampling of coils for imaging the abdomen. Enough said there.

Editing again to add this hilarious case study I found while searching for bariatric MRI coils.

"Then a case is presented of a 30-year old female cervical cancer patient who received an MRI simulation to verify the placement of a titanium tandem and colpostats for brachytherapy. A large magnetic susceptibility artifact was detected near the right pelvis during the MRI scout indicating the presence of ferrous material. The source of the artifact turned out to be a disposable lighter that was stored inside the patient's pannus. The finding highlights an unanticipated risk to MRI safety and image quality associated with large body habitus."

Also from what I understand the open MRIs aren't nearly as accurate or reliable as regular closed MRI machines, regardless of size.

On another note, she is becoming alarmingly unrecognizable:
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Also from what I understand the open MRIs aren't nearly as accurate or reliable as regular closed MRI machines, regardless of size.

On another note, she is becoming alarmingly unrecognizable:
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There was an episode of Buzzfeed Unsolved starring Loey a year or two ago now (yes, I am a fag for watching Buzfeed Unsolved) and I remember thinking it was absolutely hilarious how much her chonk dwarfed Ryan Bergara in the interview footage. Bergara is like 5'9 or 10, so not exceptionally big or anything but he's still a grownass man and she makes him look positively dainty.

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There was an episode of Buzzfeed Unsolved starring Loey a year or two ago now (yes, I am a fag for watching Buzfeed Unsolved) and I remember thinking it was absolutely hilarious how much her chonk dwarfed Ryan Bergara in the interview footage. Bergara is like 5'9 or 10, so not exceptionally big or anything but he's still a grownass man and she makes him look positively dainty.

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2016 Anna has her beat and shes put on at least another 200 lbs by now:
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Regarding Marissa's assertion that it's "ableist" to assume that someone is able to walk, I legitimately have a question, and I'm not trying to shitpost. Doesn't "ableism" require that one actually treat a person differently because of one's assumptions about their abilities? Maybe this isn't done anymore, but I thought that special education teachers and other people who work with disabled people of all abilities were trained to always assume maximum ability, until proven otherwise. (@

I really don't understand what is "ableist" or bad about believing that someone is capable of doing a given activity, even if they might be physically or intellectually different. I mean, there are bilateral amputees who can run, people with dwarfism who drive, people with Down syndrome who work full time and have spouses or partners, and the list can go on. To me, it's far more "ableist" or discriminatory to assume that someone can't do something based on a superficial judgement about their appearance or intelligence. It's actually kind of insulting. Would Marissa be okay with someone looking at her and assuming she's unable to walk or wipe her ass because she's fat and disgusting?

Honestly not trying to dunk on her here. @MirnaMinkoff, @GenociderSyo, @Blonde Bomb, @LonesomeDud what say you? (I tagged you guys because I think you have knowledge in this area, sorry if I'm annoying.)
All I know is the term became utterly meaningless a few years ago after it was co-opted by people who’s only disabilities are laziness, depression or BPD. Munchies have certainly made the term a running joke. So use of the term makes me immediately discount the writer, because it’s over generalized, accusatory and non-specific. I know this wasn’t your question, but trying to have a rational discussion about a term that’s meant to shut down rational discussion is difficult if not pointless.

Ableism is now a word used when anyone has the audacity to assume some 22 year old with self-Dx EDS and chronic Lyme should take any type of adult responsibility for her life. Thinking she can and should get a job, clean her home, care for her dog, cook meals, wash her clothes, bathe, etc.. is ableism. It’s the exact opposite of what most disabled people have fought for. Tools to foster independence vs demanding total dependence and care as if it’s heroic.

Now for me to rant because I’ve had too much coffee and it doesn’t take anything to get me off to the races on subjects like this.
I’ve also never quite understood why people with physical disabilities have allowed themselves to be grouped in with people that have mental illness or developmental disabilities since the needs and challenges are so vastly different. It’s all been shoved under one big meaningless “disabled rights” or accusations of “ableism.” Ironically I think the SJW shamed physically disabled people into not allowing specifics by accusing them of being “ableist” when they tried to differentiate themselves. Suddenly telling someone with a physical disability that “at least your mind is fine” became “ableist slur” against mentally ill or brain injured people.

The problems and challenges a disabled adult engineer who was in an accident that paralyzed him has nothing in common with the issues faced by a depressed female, someone born with Down syndrome or a schizophrenic adult.

Yet, you see groups advocating for “rights” and access for people that have the decision making capabilities of a small child and have no ability to take care of themselves. As if mentally ill/developmentally disabled people are no different from a person with normal intelligence that suffers a physical disability and only requires physical accommodations for them to lead a independent life. Even inferring these groups are different gets the “ableism” accusation.

I have to comment on something @GenociderSyo mentioned - people with CP that have normal intelligence have the worst of both worlds. I knew a man with CP who had two Ph.D but was assumed “retarded” by strangers due to his physical disabilities and inability to speak fluently - he could speak but struggled with pronunciation and stutters. If you listened to what he said you would know he was highly intelligent but how he spoke sounded like a retarded person. He was usually in a wheelchair and had poor motor control - so was confined to slow typing to do his work. He was also smart enough to realize why strangers assumed he lacked cognitive abilities but it didn’t make it any less bitter or humiliating.

He’s the type of guy I think of when idiots use “ableism” because he wanted nothing more in the world than people to regard him as capable unless he told them otherwise. He did teach me to carefully listen to what a person was saying, not how it was being annunciated.

I think my experience with this man is why I find people using minor, self-induced or non-existent disabilities to try to bully and shame society into providing fully automated luxury communism for themselves so infuriating. They are the opposite of the truly disabled I have known. The “ableism munchies” want to be treated as helpless infants that every need must be accommodated, anything that requires a tiny modicum of effort must praised and expecting them to do anything other than what they feel like doing is ableism. You must also give them attention, praise and respect for this behavior.

My friend with CP just wanted tools that gave him independence/control of his life and the ability to do more for himself. People who scream “ableism” want to be hero worshipped for being dependent and pursue helplessness as a hobby.

It’s disheartening to see the disability rights movement being abused and co-opted by bad faith actors who’s only disabilities are personality disorders and need for attention. The catch-22 is legitimately disabled people can’t call them out for their BS because…that’s ableism! Using the term abelism is now a way for munchies, and their ilk, to show frustration that anyone assumes they don’t suffer the most or have the audacity to think they should get a job, clean their rooms, wipe their ass or not eat pills and smoke weed all day.

People that use the term abelism advocate anger at anything that infers independence and self-sufficiency, the stuff that actual disabled people fought for years to try and gain.
 
I think my experience with this man is why I find people using minor, self-induced or non-existent disabilities to try to bully and shame society into providing fully automated luxury communism for themselves so infuriating. They are the opposite of the truly disabled I have known. The “ableism munchies” want to be treated as helpless infants that every need must be accommodated, anything that requires a tiny modicum of effort must praised and expecting them to do anything other than what they feel like doing is ableism. You must also give them attention, praise and respect for this behavior.

My friend with CP just wanted tools that gave him independence/control of his life and the ability to do more for himself. People who scream “ableism” want to be hero worshipped for being dependent and pursue helplessness as a hobby.
Exactly! It's like their disability "advocacy" is trying to counter everything that disability rights activists ask for. They don't want to be treated equally, they want to be babied.

I had an acquaintance growing up who had DS. She was very high functioning and understood why people treated her the way they did. One time, someone was speaking to her condescendingly, and, fed up, she exclaimed, "I'm not retarded! I have Down syndrome, asshole!"

P.S. Please, rant away. I think it's good to have a reminder that we aren't just assholes who hold a fringe opinion.
 

Okay then I hope she's ready for a long and painful as well as a humiliating death complete with cancer and heart issues. Maybe some anxiety in it as well. (Fucking hell I didn't know a first-world disease could be far worse than any third-world suffering.)

Exactly! It's like their disability "advocacy" is trying to counter everything that disability rights activists ask for. They don't want to be treated equally, they want to be babied.

They do; they want the Amazon treatment but with bariatric equipment so they can eat pizza without lifting their hands. Last time I checked, not even Amazon can satisfy these fat fucks.
 
Fatty tard rage at calorie counting is hilarious. They act like it's the most cumbersome emotional enslavement to throw some food on a scale once in a while instead of freebasing tendies and mountain dew all day. Its not that serious, my piglets.

Come now, you can't expect them to take on the emotional labor of confronting how much they eat. If the numbers show that the calories they consume is way over the calories they are supposed to consume- they might see a connection between how much they eat and how big they are. And FA says that connection doesn't exist! Those numbers are made up with fatphobic science!

Before they drank the kool-aid (in the case of FA, it's more like before they drank the venti frappachino), they believed those numbers, and had to deal with the guilt of seeing what they were doing to themselves. They'd shudder at the effort it would take to change their eating habits. The perceived deprivation of not mindlessly eating junk all day.

And that's what FA is really about. Avoiding effort and responsibility.
 
Not everyone who is thinner than you is miserable and counting calories.
I'd rather be counting calories than looking like her. They are making counting calories like you need a doctor title in quantum physics. It's not that hard!
Tracking calories wasn't even a thing for most of human history even in times of abundance yet we didn't have many deathfats either. Strange how that works.
I’ve also never quite understood why people with physical disabilities have allowed themselves to be grouped in with people that have mental illness or developmental disabilities since the needs and challenges are so vastly different.
The brain is also an organ, but that's where the similarities end.
I'm with you guys on this one, by the way. It annoys me when people treat mental illness like it's some kind of magical etherial spiritual thing but they also want the accommodations provided to people with physical issues.
2016 Anna has her beat and shes put on at least another 200 lbs by now:
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She looks uncannily like a tube of Megababe deoderant. Same color scheme and everything.
 
You can blame social media for the bastardization of the word Ableism. Bitches like Marissa just read buzzwords on twitter without actually understanding the concept. Words have no meaning on social media.

Ableism is the idea that people with a disability are inferior to non-disabled people. Ableism is not the assumption that someone can do something or that all people in a group are able-bodied, it is the assumption that certain people can't do certain things and are therefor inferior/less valuable members of society. Disablism is the actual act of discrimination against disabled people.

In other word these fat hogs/munchies want to be treated in an ableist manner with people assuming they can not do what other people can do because it validates their "disabilities" and their carefully curated identities. They are just too stupid to understand this.
 
I know I’m top hatting a bit but her response to someone becoming disabled because of some fat ass pisses me off. That’s your response to it? “LOL XD you’re miserable for watching your weight!”

I see people like her and on this thread and they make me WANT to count calories. I never want to lose mobility or autonomy because I ballooned. Fucking disgusting miserable cunt.
 
Went to see the message she was talking about, and yeah... They're right, Beckah

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Truth hurts, better inhale more butter-infused copium
How can someone even be happy when they are obese? Before I had a kid, I was normal weight. When I got pregnant, the weight hurt my legs and back so much and now that I am done pregnancy and trying to lose the extra baby weight, it's still painful as hell for my back, my joints, and my legs in general.
Like, do they understand when they get old, it will be severely painful for them to just walk (if they can still even walk anymore) from just your bedroom door to your bed? It doesn't just affect your organs and your blood, but also your bones.
 
Regarding Marissa's assertion that it's "ableist" to assume that someone is able to walk, I legitimately have a question, and I'm not trying to shitpost. Doesn't "ableism" require that one actually treat a person differently because of one's assumptions about their abilities? Maybe this isn't done anymore, but I thought that special education teachers and other people who work with disabled people of all abilities were trained to always assume maximum ability, until proven otherwise. (@

I really don't understand what is "ableist" or bad about believing that someone is capable of doing a given activity, even if they might be physically or intellectually different. I mean, there are bilateral amputees who can run, people with dwarfism who drive, people with Down syndrome who work full time and have spouses or partners, and the list can go on. To me, it's far more "ableist" or discriminatory to assume that someone can't do something based on a superficial judgement about their appearance or intelligence. It's actually kind of insulting. Would Marissa be okay with someone looking at her and assuming she's unable to walk or wipe her ass because she's fat and disgusting?

Honestly not trying to dunk on her here. @MirnaMinkoff, @GenociderSyo, @Blonde Bomb, @LonesomeDud what say you? (I tagged you guys because I think you have knowledge in this area, sorry if I'm annoying.)
I completely agree with everything you said here. I think you bring up a lot of good points.

This Sienfeld episode was on last night. When I heard this part of it I was immediately reminded of your comment.

 
Come now, you can't expect them to take on the emotional labor of confronting how much they eat. If the numbers show that the calories they consume is way over the calories they are supposed to consume- they might see a connection between how much they eat and how big they are. And FA says that connection doesn't exist! Those numbers are made up with fatphobic science!

Before they drank the kool-aid (in the case of FA, it's more like before they drank the venti frappachino), they believed those numbers, and had to deal with the guilt of seeing what they were doing to themselves. They'd shudder at the effort it would take to change their eating habits. The perceived deprivation of not mindlessly eating junk all day.

And that's what FA is really about. Avoiding effort and responsibility.
It's also about avoiding all forms of discomfort as much as possible, which ironically is the cause for anxiety. Discomfort is what helps people not only learn, but also adapt to do better and be better. Even those who enjoy exercising experience discomfort so they can rest and be better next time.
 
How can someone even be happy when they are obese? Before I had a kid, I was normal weight. When I got pregnant, the weight hurt my legs and back so much and now that I am done pregnancy and trying to lose the extra baby weight, it's still painful as hell for my back, my joints, and my legs in general.
Your body changes so fast and thoroughly when you're pregnant. If you gain tremendous amounts of weight the less honest way-- by simply eating too much-- it can really sneak up on you.

Let's take foot/leg/back pain for instance. If you gained 40 pounds while pregnant, to pull a number completely out of my ass, that would happen within a handful of months, top. It may appear to happen overnight. So if that 40 pounds is the difference between happy feet and hurty feet, you're gonna feel it fast.

But if you gain it over two or three years, your feet and joints won't even notice it. You're getting acclimatized to it. You also, perhaps counterintuitively, could be developing a bit more muscle as well- assuming you're still walking and moving the same amount. "Active" fatties can have pretty well defined calves because their legs are so strong from carting around all that weight. So you might be 40 pounds heavier, but if you're still active, your legs and back might actually be a bit stronger. With pregnancy it happens too fast for you to also get stronger, plus all the other changes your body is going through.

But weight gain can snowball. You get used to being kind of fat, then you gain more weight, etc. When the aches do start to happen, they're not all at once-- for me it was my shins while walking, then later my feet AND shins. While still in denial that my weight was becoming out of control, I sought solutions in footwear and insoles, etc.

Age can also hide it. You can get away with a lot in your 20s. My aching feet started as 30 was on the horizon, and I was also experiencing things like my first REAL hangover, etc. So people can mistakenly chalk up those early warnings signs to age as well.

All these symptoms and pains come on so slowly that it's a real boiling frog situation. Most people have a final straw where they'll realize they have to lose weight, and then they'll discover relief in ways they didn't even know was a problem. I was only aware of my sore feet and shins when walking. I didn't realize I would just be more comfortable after losing the first 50 pounds. I didn't realize hot, humid summers would actually be bearable. Pleasant, even. I didn't realize my asthma would flare up less often. And I didn't realize how stiff and achey I was in the morning until I wasn't anymore. (Turns out that's not supposed to happen in your 30s!) And I never needed special shoes or insoles. It was the weight all along.

For the mega ultra fatties in this forum, so many of them were fat from a young enough age that they didn't have these pain issues for a while. And then they develop so slowly that you just get used to it. And then discomfort and pain is just constant background noise. They can't imagine a different reality. To be human, for them, is to be in constant discomfort and pain, which they then soothe with more food.

They can be happy because they don't even know there's a problem. They can't look at a kale eating gym bunny and understand that she's enjoying some benefits from counting calories. They think she feels just as lousy as them, except without the soothing food-- how horrible! Even if they do acknowledge pain, since they've been in acclimatized fat discomfort for so long, they can't imagine that it would go away. If they were thin they'd have to count calories, eat kale, AND take the medications/whatever they need for the pain. So why bother?

To borrow a phrase, the real fat is in their mind.

TLDR; have you ever lived in a big city with lots of construction noise? You just sort of tune it out. Then one day you go camping in the countryside (or a pandemic strikes) and you're like-- "wow. It's so quiet. I didn't even realize how noisy the city was." That's what pain is like for a fatty.
 
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But if you gain it over two or three years, your feet and joints won't even notice it. You're getting acclimatized to it. You also, perhaps counterintuitively, could be developing a bit more muscle as well- assuming you're still walking and moving the same amount. "Active" fatties can have pretty well defined calves because their legs are so strong from carting around all that weight. So you might be 40 pounds heavier, but if you're still active, your legs and back might actually be a bit stronger. With pregnancy it happens too fast for you to also get stronger, plus all the other changes your body is going through.
Shit, dude. This is true even at lower weights. Joint damage can really sneak up on you.
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