Diseased Open Source Software Community - it's about ethics in Code of Conducts

[AnOminous]

Cow crossover: One of the people bringing attention to this event on Twitter is Hector "@marcan42" Martin, the "personal friend" of byuu/Near who is either sitting on incontrovertible evidence of his death and therefore the opportunity to dunk on us incel Kiwi chuds forever, or lying about it completely. But good on him for spreading the news of this particular bullshit.

Maybe he can learn the difference between what Kiwi Farms does and what someone actually literally trying to get someone killed does.

 

[Plank]

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Thank you Daniel Ray for teaching everyone once again why it is important to hire a professional legal team to represent your company and its interest. And the dangers of not following that advice and trying to publicly practice law on your own.

 

[Knight of the Rope]

Maybe he can learn the difference between what Kiwi Farms does and what someone actually literally trying to get someone killed does.

He's also trying to "preemptively" corral his followers into not attacking this guy or saying mean things, because he apparently has no idea how Twitter or boycotts work.

(source) / (archive)

That someone can have an audience (or a forum, say) of 1000s of people and not be responsible for every little thing they do is also an ironic lesson he could learn here. If he were the kind of guy that could learn lessons, anyway.

 

[D.Va]

this coward has no credibility after the byuu shit and just sounds like everyone else who holds up a big flashing sign pointing to someone who's done a misdeed with a smallprint of "don't harass them tho"


I find this a bit funny because the US has like a gorillion illegals who've lived there a lifetime and the government does nothing. Imagine moving legally and still living in constant fear that the government is going to randomly remove you, which they'll only do when you've been such a nuisance that you're a national embarrassment.


"We"



Oh it's just a severely mentally ill 38-year-old jumping on the train for clout. Sorry to go on a tangent but this man is insane and it's like someone gave Gollum a smartphone, but I also realise he's got a thread here.

 

[Druveer]

Plural system? WAT? This guy is claiming to have multiple personalities?

 

[Shaka Brah]

this coward has no credibility after the byuu shit and just sounds like everyone else who holds up a big flashing sign pointing to someone who's done a misdeed with a smallprint of "don't harass them tho"

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I find this a bit funny because the US has like a gorillion illegals who've lived there a lifetime and the government does nothing. Imagine moving illegally and still living in constant fear that the government is going to randomly remove you, which they'll only do when you've been such a nuisance that you're a national embarrassment.

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Oh it's just a severely mentally ill 38-year-old jumping on the train for clout. Sorry to go on a tangent but this man is insane and it's like someone gave Gollum a smartphone, but I also realise he's got a thread here.

Buckle up, niggers. This is a wild ride.

This drama and the lolcow in question is mentioned in a good overview video by LagoVirt, which you can still watch on YouTube (but may need archiving in case it's mysteriously struck).

However I'm not sure the thread mentions that Mr. Kirwin-Muller is also very active in supporting transsexuals accessing children, as can be seen in his numerous patreon credits in the videos of the troon organization "my genderation" which promotes transsexualism to children; an endeavor which he is apparently quite able and willing to fund. See here:

Spoiler: Screenshots

Not only that, but Arki is part of the Tranch's trooncult known as The Korps. His avatar wearing their weird pink laser glasses is found openly on his wikifur page, identifying him as a member of that Rat King group.

 

[Game master arino]

Plural system? WAT? This guy is claiming to have multiple personalities?

Yes. theres a thread about people like him here. Also he is part of the same discord tranny cult kev kev is.

 

[Marvin]

Well this certainly isn't true. Deportation proceedings are subject to due process.

 

[AnOminous]

Well this certainly isn't true. Deportation proceedings are subject to due process.

That's an idealistic view of it. Overstay a visa and get picked up and it's entirely common to get deported before even getting to make your case. Sure, you get to make it back from your home country, but you've still been deported. You also have to know you have those rights to exercise them. There isn't a "Miranda warning" before deporting you, informing you you can challenge it. In fact, sometimes, the people administering deportations outright lie to people about their rights.

 

[awoo]

I randomly checked out gitlab's community support forums today and came across a funny complaint

A bit of a touchy topic

This may not be a very popular post, but I think it’s important for overall outreach. I don’t mean to sound like I’m calling gitlab out at all, I really believe it’s a wonderful organization. But you guys need to change the picture on this page: Join GitLab | GitLab the picture of your...

forum.gitlab.com

HEIL STALLMAN lul

 

[Druveer]

I randomly checked out gitlab's community support forums today and came across a funny complaint

A bit of a touchy topic

This may not be a very popular post, but I think it’s important for overall outreach. I don’t mean to sound like I’m calling gitlab out at all, I really believe it’s a wonderful organization. But you guys need to change the picture on this page: Join GitLab | GitLab the picture of your...

forum.gitlab.com

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HEIL STALLMAN lul

Guarantee that's white man. Fucking white savior bullshit.

 

[Shaka Brah]

I randomly checked out gitlab's community support forums today and came across a funny complaint

A bit of a touchy topic

This may not be a very popular post, but I think it’s important for overall outreach. I don’t mean to sound like I’m calling gitlab out at all, I really believe it’s a wonderful organization. But you guys need to change the picture on this page: Join GitLab | GitLab the picture of your...

forum.gitlab.com

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HEIL STALLMAN lul

They're... Dabbing?

 

[Shoggoth]

This is a weird story and I am beyond trying to understand who's in the right, just eating popcorn
Meet Jorge Bucaran, who develops and maintains a webshit package for colorizing text, Colorette.
He claims a fellow dev has forked his project, deleted the git history and slapped a new coat of paint on it, then went around PRing projects to switch to his package instead of the original
Original twitter complaint: https://twitter.com/jorgebucaran/status/1441713235980275718 https://archive.vn/8CEnl
"Hacker" "news" thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28659838 https://archive.vn/dP4n6
eslint PR: https://github.com/eslint/eslint/pull/15102 https://archive.vn/L9bqs
babel PR: https://github.com/babel/babel/pull/13783 https://archive.vn/1XZtE
Slapfight PR https://github.com/ai/nanocolors/pull/14 https://archive.vn/vilYD
From what I can gather, the other dev, AI, claims he was "inspired" by its design, didn't steal, and improve performance
The retort was why would he delete the git history, and his benchmarks are wrong.
You're welcome to pick highlights from this slapfight
Synopsis by one user on HN:

I think the forker here just crossed one of those invisible lines by a collection of actions that smell bad when seen as a whole.
He forked, stripped attribution and history [+] (license violation, but on its own probably just rises to the level of minor dickishness and is often a misunderstanding)
He started advertising his fork to replace the originally forked repo (a bit rude).
If the original library was unmaintained or unused, this probably would have been a big nothing-burger. But apparently the library that was quietly forked had a fairly big install base and contributing to that library first would have been a better choice.
What is missing from the discussion (and often unaccounted for in licenses themselves) is that there's a massive personal value to having a library used by large numbers of people.
[+] EDIT (to clarify): as gcr points out, this was not a standard github-style fork but rather a copy and re-commit as original history.

 

[awoo]

Isn't deleting attribution one of the only things MIT license forbids you from doing?
The HN commentors are right that Github has turned some parts of programming into a Instagram-style clout chasing contest.

To quote one commentor: "Let's not forget the DigitalOcean Hacktoberfest debacle a few years ago. I still stumble upon repos with pull requests that contain nothing more than a single character change to a README. Just for a stupid SWAG t-shirt."

Another good comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28662079
I'm glad I wasn't the only one pissed off at the sheer audacity (heh) to market your code style as "standard"

 

[Shoggoth]

When every retard can use your language, every retard will use your language
Let's not forget is-odd, typo namesquatting, and other lovely idiocies

 

[Least Concern]

Correlation is not causation, but it does certainly seem like us PHP developers have been getting made fun of less and less as the Node community has grown larger and larger.

It really seems like 2retardsfighting.jpg to those of us on the outside, but I do fear that this is the sort of thing that gets blown up and starts pushing people towards using more restrictive licenses for their code.

 

[Shoggoth]

Correlation is not causation, but it does certainly seem like us PHP developers have been getting made fun of less and less as the Node community has grown larger and larger.

I'm still old enough to feel uneasy calling PHPers developers.

It really seems like 2retardsfighting.jpg to those of us on the outside, but I do fear that this is the sort of thing that gets blown up and starts pushing people towards using more restrictive licenses for their code.

I don't think it will push restrictive licensing. Seems like MIT is the de-facto license in JS land and you won't change that anytime soon. Licensing is a headache anyway and I wish it were simple. I still want to use AGPL for everything but I don't even know if and when I can.
To me it looks like a clear case of plagiarism, and the guy is getting knocked on the head and publicly dragged, which is what I would want in that case. I hope it will make others wary of working with him. It's a case study of blatant copying and weaseling caught right in the open, no matter how much drama or retardation are involved. Licensing won't help you here, he even violated the MIT license, originally.
tbh, this fucking bubble can't explode soon enough.

 

[awoo]

For purely my own curiosity reasons I wish all code were GPL so source was more widely available to be scrutinized. This is probably bad for companies who want to take code and redistribute without source but I don't care.

 

[Norvic]

The funniest thing of all is the amount of actual code involved in all this nonsense. It's literally a dozen lines of code. They're fighting over a glorified lookup table.

They very idea that you forked this "library" to "improve performance" as if performance is ever going to matter in code that emits VT escape codes to turn text a particular colour. Javascript and everyone who writes it are huge mistakes.

 

[gurutu]

Both of them are complete clowns. Jorge Bucaran contributed to a project to then attempt DMCA it for the code he himself had contributed, to try take over with his fork. https://github.com/jorgebucaran/fisher/issues/85

as if performance is ever going to matter in code that emits VT escape codes to turn text a particular colour

And if it mattered, I'd bet ncurses is way more performant than a bloated piece of JS trash.