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A mask comeback is not enough to sway Trump voters: It's time to start imposing vaccine mandates​

Coddling and cajoling the Trumpers isn't working: Mandates give them a chance to save face while avoiding COVID​

By AMANDA MARCOTTE

PUBLISHED JULY 27, 2021 12:59PM (EDT)​

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Vaccinated America is fed up with the unvaccinated, and the mainstream media is finally starting to pay attention.

"As Virus Cases Rise, Another Contagion Spreads Among the Vaccinated: Anger," declares a Tuesday morning New York Times headline. "'Patience has worn thin': Frustration mounts over vaccine holdouts," read a similar headline from Friday's Washington Post.

This anger is completely understandable. While some vaccine holdouts are people who are sincerely scared or misled by misinformation, people are noticing both the geography showing hotspots are in Republican-heavy areas and polls showing the stark partisan divide on inoculation. Vaccinated Americans lived through the past year, including Donald Trump's failed coup and the pandemic surging due to Republican disinformation. They know full well that it's Republicans who are refusing vaccines and that they're doing it out of pure spite. Of course, vaccinated Americans are angry. They should be angry.

Yet even though Republicans are operating out of spite so pure that they'll risk their own health just to "own the liberals," the rest of us are being scolded to be endlessly gentle, placating, and understanding of them, most recently in a widely panned Washington Post column by Gary Abernathy. So with COVID-19 cases rising and Republicans continuing to run interference for Trump after he tried to overturn our democracy, skepticism mounts for the theory that just a little more hand-holding and hair-stroking is going to bring these people back to reason.

"[E]nough with the bogus Snowflake Syndrome narratives already," Greg Sargent of the Washington Post wrote in a rebuttal to the calls for more coddling.

The problem is that these calls for sympathy and accommodation only flow one way. Liberals are expected to do all the sacrificing, on the grounds that they have the capacity for empathy, and nothing is asked of conservatives.

This deep and persistent unfairness is now starting to crop up in public health responses to rising COVID-19 cases. Los Angeles has re-imposed a mask mandate, even though science guiding the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) shows vaccinated people are safe to go without. (As President Joe Biden's top health advisor, Dr. Anthony Fauci said in May, science shows vaccinated people "become a dead end to the virus.") Now the CDC is backtracking a bit, recommending all people wear masks inside in some parts of the country, as the delta variant spreads. Other cities are considering similar mandates or are already putting forward "mask recommendations."

These new mask mandates and recommendations are less about threats from vaccinated people and much more about unvaccinated people being free riders running around without masks. Unfortunately, the result is that vaccinated people must endure a minor but very real inconvenience in order to protect the unvaccinated from their own bad decisions. Helaine Olen of the Washington Post rightfully criticized Los Angeles County, pointing out that, "instead of punishing the people who did it right, give them positive reinforcement, while making it clear to the wrongdoers their actions come with consequences — for themselves."

In other words: Forget the mask mandates. Time instead for vaccine mandates.

To begin with, vaccines simply work better than masks. Masks work, but inadequately, as demonstrated by the 200,000-plus cases a day in January, when mask mandates were standard. Vaccines, however, work really well, which is why case rates started to plunge in the spring as vaccine rates went up. As CDC director Rochelle Walensky said earlier this month, this is a "pandemic of the unvaccinated." Just as importantly, vaccine mandates work, which is why, prior to COVID-19, they have been widespread and, outside of the complaints of a minority of anti-vaccination people, broadly popular. Diseases like measles, whooping cough, and polio that were once common are now incredibly rare due to vaccine mandates.

It's a peculiar trick of human psychology, but often small but certain frustrations better motivate people to make better decisions than the threat of disease and death. For instance, bans on indoor smoking led to a decline in smoking rates, suggesting that at least some people who were unmoved by fears of lung cancer were stopped by the inconvenience of having to step outside to smoke. The threat of dying horribly in a car accident didn't convince many people to wear seatbelts, but the threat of getting a ticket caused them to buckle up, saving lives.

A lot of people are able to convince themselves they're safe from the worst consequences of bad choices. Consider podcast host Joe Rogan telling his audience that a "healthy person" is safe from COVID-19. It's the kind of logic that right-wing anti-vaxxers are using to justify their choice to skip the shot to spite the left. But if they couldn't board a plane or go to their favorite bar or attend a child's wedding or they had to get a Q-tip shoved up their nose every day to go to work? Well, that inconvenience might be enough to convince them that this particular Trumpist tantrum isn't worth it.

Frank Luntz, a Republican pollster who has been focused heavily on researching anti-vaccine Republicans in recent months, recently reaffirmed that vaccine mandates, not coddling, is what refusers need in order to get the shot.
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There's been hesitation on the part of the Biden White House to push more aggressively for mandates, out of fear of seeing a repeat of some of the protests from last year, when right-wingers flipped out over lockdowns and mask mandates. No doubt that such protests would happen, just as they happened in France after French President Emmanuel Macron announced plans for vaccine mandates for travel, eating out, and other use of public areas. But while 160,000 people protested the mandates in France, far more — over 4 million people — finally sucked it up and got shot appointments.

The politics are different in the U.S., where refusing vaccination has become an identity marker for conservatives. Still, there's a good reason to believe that there'd be a similarly high ratio of people who quietly get vaccinated to people who protest. After all, what vaccine mandates would do is give Republicans a way to save face. No doubt many of them are harboring secret worries about getting COVID-19, but they keep refusing to get the shot, out of the perception that doing so would be disloyal to the conservative cause. But if they were "forced" to, they could have it both ways. They could both get the protection while still claiming to oppose the vaccine in the abstract. It's a win-win for most conservatives, even if they would publicly whine about it. (And, in fact, having something to whine about is a bonus for them!) It's the same dynamic we see with taxes — conservatives pay them and then get the pleasure of complaining about it.

There are some legal complications to mandates, of course, as Biden doesn't have the official powers to impose a nationwide mandate. But as Max Boot of the Washington Post pointed out, "Biden can set an example by using his authority to mandate vaccinations for airline travel and Amtrak travel and for federal employees or those who enter federal buildings," as well as "issue an executive order mandating military vaccinations as a national security priority." This would help normalize mandates, making it easier for state and local governments, as well as businesses, to require vaccines for people to work, be customers, or simply enter public spaces.

This week, there were baby steps in the right direction.

On Monday, the Department of Veterans Affairs announced that front-line workers would be required to vaccinate. The states of New York and California are imposing similar mandates on employees, as did the Mayo Clinic. And the rising anger from vaccinated people is starting to be heard. It's time for political and business leaders to start rewarding people who did the right thing, instead of bending over backward to accommodate people who are refusing basic medical care to spite the rest of us. The good news is that a decentralized approach to vaccine mandates would be much harder for conservatives to rage against, since the targets would be diffuse. Right now, too many places are operating in photonegative space from common sense, imposing on those who did the right thing while coddling those who refuse to do the bare minimum. It's time to shift gears and start embracing the basic principle of rewards for good behavior, frustrations and consequences for bad behavior. It's time for vaccine mandates.
 
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You know, that is actually a great point that they apparently haven't even given mind to.
Trump already got the vax and told his followers to get the jab, yet as every one of these articles loves to beat us over the head with, a lot of vax hesitant areas are "Trump country"
Gee, what a coincidence that "Trump country" as they identify it lines up almost 1:1 with "places with large rural populations that were utterly ravaged by the opioid epidemic which was kickstarted by the pharmaceutical industry under the allowance of a corrupt administration"
Why would they ever care about that? It'd require them to know someone that got Oxy in the first place when it was supposed to be for pain relief. Desk jobs as a whole have no need for any kind of pain relief, but injuries on the job do - and the callous disregard for anyone that got ruined by that is shocking even today. Of course the company that pushed it made billions while ignoring the ethics of it all, and Congress did nothing to punish them.

But don't worry, they'll be more careful this time when they have a shield against any side effects.

I don't trust Big Pharma to be ethical with this kind of money on the table. I do not trust the government to have my best interests in mind when they have shown the exact opposite for the past eighteen months in a row. And I will take my chances with this slightly harsher flu as I am an adult that can accept responsibility for their own actions.
 
I think this just convinced me that journalism is now a top down warning system where the government broadcasts its future intent through journos to get people accustomed to changes ahead of time by letting it sink in before it happens. The Biden admin were talking about mandating vaccines for all federal employees, & now we have this article saying it should be mandated to civilians.
 
What if I want to wait another few months to get a vaccine that will have gone through more testing and be better equipped to deal with the new variants the media is saying are lurking around the corner? Why should I waste my time and money on something that will be out of date in a few months when I could wait for the better version? Either I'm a bad consoomer who deoesn't get enough dopamine rushes from Twitter or I'm not a hack journo living off my family's trust fund whining about how everyone who doesn't think like them is a big meanie.
Congrats, You are now a dangerous white supremacist.

I remember when you actually had to be racist to get called one.
 
Biden's moving quickly to mandate the jab.

Majority of the Federal Government is black lol, is he trying to lose union support now.
 
Biden's moving quickly to mandate the jab.

Two words:

Negative externalities

See Cobra effect.

Hypothetically speaking, let's say your dear Kiwi works for a county agency that is pushing vaccines and requires vaccination or a negative Covid test.

As a person that has gotten over COVID, it seems that I am immune to Delta as well. Now my hesitation to the vaccine is that I don't want side effects that are worse in people that have had it. In fact, I have advised my HR director that any side effects I get from vaccine is considered pain and suffering. Additionally, if have further moderate to severe side effects that is considered workplace compensation.

Now, for that reason I do not need a vaccine but need to get tested. Fine. The tax payer pays me the hour I get for testing and the test itself.

Testing takes less than 10 minutes now and I spend the next 50 minutes at a local diner having breakfast.

An hour of pay for 10 minutes of work. It makes sense never to get vaccinated.
 
I think this just convinced me that journalism is now a top down warning system where the government broadcasts its future intent through journos to get people accustomed to changes ahead of time by letting it sink in before it happens. The Biden admin were talking about mandating vaccines for all federal employees, & now we have this article saying it should be mandated to civilians.
Who needs Operation Mockingbird, when you have Clapper, Comey, and Brennan as commentators on MSNBCNN?
Like this will ever get past the Senate. Hell if they push this hard enough they might give the GoP a majority again in both houses
Did you forget the GOPe's penchant for backstabbing their voters?
 
The place i work for has a vax mandate. its not enforced, and its not some small local joint either. outside of federal jobs i don't see it working.
If governors and mayors try to impose harsh mandates and restrictions again, I expect to see protests similar to what’s happening in Europe. People are getting more disillusioned by the day.
 
If governors and mayors try to impose harsh mandates and restrictions again, I expect to see protests similar to what’s happening in Europe. People are getting more disillusioned by the day.
absolutely. even back when people were still largely afraid of covid there were protestors shouting down my governor's press conferences.
 
Also, make voter ID federally mandated in every state as part of the exchange. If people are able to get vaccine ID, they can get voter ID.
Will a vaccine card be considered voter ID then?

I personally am 100% for vaccine mandates because people get so salty about them. Hopefully we then will have the legal infrastructure to start mandating anti-psychotics on the street schizos next.
 
Will a vaccine card be considered voter ID then?

I personally am 100% for vaccine mandates because people get so salty about them. Hopefully we then will have the legal infrastructure to start mandating anti-psychotics on the street schizos next.
I personally don't want Public Health to be the 2020 version of 2001-era National Security.
 
I think this just convinced me that journalism is now a top down warning system where the government broadcasts its future intent through journos to get people accustomed to changes ahead of time by letting it sink in before it happens. The Biden admin were talking about mandating vaccines for all federal employees, & now we have this article saying it should be mandated to civilians.
On a serious note : It is. MSM that is.
Where as "alt" (or MSM that just doesn't agree with the narrative) gets called conspiracy theorists if we publish stuff that leaks from the government.

There are leaks every day from governments that come the way of any political-field journalist. Most of the time the leaks also come with "break it gently" or "test the waters" kinda messaging.

You can tell that Biden was fluffing the pillow today with his "Cyberattack that will have major consequences".
What do you think Cyber Polygon was all about? Fluffing the pillow, forecasting what they will do.

The danger is that you have a party who stole an election, got away with it, has the tech companies on their side to shut down transmission of news directly from the source as "violations of TOS", a media who will lie to push agendas and a heavily divided country, where one side has a derangement syndrome so severe, that they'd happily kill off the other side to hold onto power, all spread world wide.
 
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