Incel and Lonely Men Debate thread - Defend men giving up or tell them otherwise

[King Daddy Telomerase]

Again what should women be taking accountability for? Being whores? because there are plenty of men who are whores as well.

I'll use an example with a BPD girl I had a good online friendship with. She's a complete loser. No job, smokes weed and lies in bed all day, repulsive hygiene admitting to not showering for weeks and visibly being dirty and greasy. The exact stereotype people commonly have with incels. Does she ever get called on being a lazy slug? No. She has no problem finding relationships (and destroying them like BPDs do), Whenever it's talked about her finding relationships, the general opinion is how lucky people are for this charming girl giving them a chance! Her family even defends her behavior and never challenges her to improve her life despite being a financial black hole for them.

This is not a unique example, I've seen numerous examples of specifically Zoomer women who are similar to this. Then lonely men are expected to bend over backwards for messes like this, and if they don't, they're the losers.

As for women being whores, I don't care, I consider that a positive tbh. I think when incels demand pure virgins and all that, often they're trying to protect themselves from manipulative fuckups as I mentioned earlier, and overcompensating.

 

[Exigent Circumcisions]

1. Ok, lets add narcissism to the list of things you struggle with, ist actually not as unlikely a combination as you might think. Narcissism is just pathological self involvement and a need to seek affirmation of your self image from others so i suspect its common in incels. Actually, another neat thing, there are 2 types of narcissism. There is narcissism where your self image is positive, and where you seek complements from people, but there is also narcissism where your self image is negative and likewise you seek conformation of this image from others.

2. Therapy is not a high when done right, it doesn't constitute of just "making you feel better", but rather fixing your mental processes. You're dismissive of it because of your personal complexes or maybe a bad experience and you need to stop being dismissive of it if you ever want to get better.
3. "Ad hominem" is a personal attack, for an instance if i were to call you ugly or stupid. Its necessary direct.
4. You absolutely have something to gain from pretending, its mental comfort. That's what defense mechanisms are for. You're attacking your perceived root cause of the problems in your life because you want those problems gone.

Childless loser, another projection, again fits into the model like a glove. Look. I'm not typing it out just because im bored, im trying to illustrate to you how and why you think and do the things you do. Because the first step in overcoming those problems is acknowledging they're there. If you think you don't have a problem you wont seek help. But you do.

Hey doc, I've got a funny growth I'd like you to look at.

 

[DetectiveDuBois]

I'll use an example with a BPD girl I had a good online friendship with. She's a complete loser. No job, smokes weed and lies in bed all day, repulsive hygiene admitting to not showering for weeks and visibly being dirty and greasy. The exact stereotype people commonly have with incels. Does she ever get called on being a lazy slug? No. She has no problem finding relationships (and destroying them like BPDs do), Whenever it's talked about her finding relationships, the general opinion is how lucky people are for this charming girl giving them a chance! Her family even defends her behavior and never challenges her to improve her life despite being a financial black hole for them.

This is not a unique example, I've seen numerous examples of specifically Zoomer women who are similar to this. Then lonely men are expected to bend over backwards for messes like this, and if they don't, they're the losers.

As for women being whores, I don't care, I consider that a positive tbh. I think when incels demand pure virgins and all that, often they're trying to protect themselves from manipulative fuckups as I mentioned earlier, and overcompensating.

It takes literal autists to call women on their b.s. The character of Sheldon from Big Bang Theory was so funny to people because he was an example of the pre-feminism nerd. Not blinded by the narrative women can be as good as men in stem fields.

 

[Exigent Circumcisions]

Another post from you that literally doesn't make sense. Incels are virgins, so if "it's not valuable to be a virgin" why would anyone have sex with them? You really have to start reading this shit back to yourself before you click Post Reply, man.

Don't encourage them to think. It's much more funny this way.

being thrown into consciousness unwillingly (the harm of being born).

This is, without a doubt, one of the most self-pitying, nihilistic and pathetic things I've ever read.

Sam Harris is the person I’m reading at the moment

 

[DetectiveDuBois]

Hey doc, I've got a funny growth I'd like you to look at.

 

[DamnWolves!]

The implication was that lay count doesn’t matter. Outside the internet 20+ bodycount is as shameful as a virgin man. If you can’t close your legs use a chastity lock.

Deviant sexual behaviour is generally considered unattractive, yes. It's weird to bang 50 dudes by the time you graduate college, just like it's weird to bang 0 chicks. Both things indicate some sort of pathology, and poor mental health is inherently unattractive.

The sexual hang-ups of people "outside the internet" are less about the actual healthfulness or un-healthfulness of virginity vs. sex addiction (although there are certainly claims to be made there) and more about whether you have had the experiences one would expect from an average person your age.

That being said, female sex addiction and male inceldom are caused by entirely different dysfunctions, and so they are perceived differently by society at large. The former is a problem with impulse control and--usually--abandonment issues or past sexual trauma, whereas the latter is usually the result of poor socialization.

One more observation: in general, I have noticed that incels tend to equalize the value of sex for both genders--I believe I read a post earlier about some gross BPD woman who has no problem finding a partner--but this is another mistake. The biological consequences of sex mean that women are much pickier about sexual partners than men are, and so this idea that male and female incels are starting on an equal playing field needs to be abandoned. Poorly-functioning women have no problem finding sex; it's commitment they're going to have trouble with. I have no problem banging out some gross bar skank 10 minutes before last call, after 15 beers and a shot of tequila, but I sure as fuck won't bring her home to meet my mom. If you've ever browsed femcel boards, you'd know that this is what they complain about; not their lack of sex.

Men compete for sex; women compete for commitment. I suppose from the male incel's point of view, the former feels much worse than the latter, but believe me when I say that women whose eggs are drying up and can't find a husband have just as big of a bitter, hateful freak out over it as young men do when they can't find a sexual partner.

 

[SideshowBob]

Why? So they can earn the 'prize' of an incel's love and attention? Why would they care whether you think they're pure enough? Why would anybody?

You’re a retard. Sex is an evolutionary process and no one wants an infertile thot who’s destroyed her womb. Unless she’s really good at cooking.

 

[DetectiveDuBois]

Take a shower every day

Incels remember to take 20 showers per minute

 

[Mr. 305]

I'll use an example with a BPD girl I had a good online friendship with. She's a complete loser. No job, smokes weed and lies in bed all day, repulsive hygiene admitting to not showering for weeks and visibly being dirty and greasy. The exact stereotype people commonly have with incels. Does she ever get called on being a lazy slug? No. She has no problem finding relationships (and destroying them like BPDs do), Whenever it's talked about her finding relationships, the general opinion is how lucky people are for this charming girl giving them a chance! Her family even defends her behavior and never challenges her to improve her life despite being a financial black hole for them.

This is not a unique example, I've seen numerous examples of specifically Zoomer women who are similar to this. Then lonely men are expected to bend over backwards for messes like this, and if they don't, they're the losers.

As for women being whores, I don't care, I consider that a positive tbh. I think when incels demand pure virgins and all that, often they're trying to protect themselves from manipulative fuckups as I mentioned earlier, and overcompensating.

I mean I guess? I don't really see how your dirty loser friend has to do anything with incels. Yeah I get she is a loser like a typical incel but she still gets manages to get laid, but I mean what does that have to do with anything? Ok so her family encourages her to be a loser sounds like a personal problem. There are lots of fat losers who are women and ones that are men, but it is interesting these women aren't trying to go on mass murder sprees like incels. I mean even femcels don't do that shit. So maybe being a loser isn't inherently the problem? Also yeah we can speculate all we want about how people are getting lazier and grosser, but it could possibly be that loser incel women aren't going to go out and murdering people, so people care less about them being being unhygienic and having bad personality's. I mean maybe it's because I don't really see this problem in my everyday life so I'm not seeing the issue, I guess you could tell her family to stop enabling her?

 

[SideshowBob]

I mean I guess? I don't really see how your dirty loser friend has to do anything with incels. Yeah I get she is a loser like a typical incel but she still gets manages to get laid, but I mean what does that have to do with anything? Ok so her family encourages her to be a loser sounds like a personal problem. There are lots of fat losers who are women and ones that are men, but it is interesting these women aren't trying to go on mass murder sprees like incels. I mean even femcels don't do that shit. So maybe being a loser isn't inherently the problem? Also yeah we can speculate all we want about how people are getting lazier and grosser, but it could possibly be that loser incel women aren't going to go out and murdering people, so people care less about them being being unhygienic and having bad personality's. I mean maybe it's because I don't really see this problem in my everyday life so I'm not seeing the issue, I guess you could tell her family to stop enabling her?

Female aggression is verbal, men’s is physical. Have you heard of a book?

 

[Mr. 305]

Female aggression is verbal, men’s is physical. Have you heard of a book?

what

 

[Chicken Picnic]

Female aggression is verbal, men’s is physical. Have you heard of a book?

You are an incel because you very clearly have no idea about how not just women think, but how society at large thinks.

Take this post for example. Females can be physically aggressive, frighteningly so in some cases. It's just more common for men to be physically aggressive. But in saying that, many men are verbally aggressive too. Part of it likely has to do with biology- testosterone is linked to physical strength and aggression so obviously men are more likely to be physically aggressive, but nature isn't everything in life. I mean look at Amber Heard and Johnny Depp's situation, that bitch straight up admitted to being physically aggressive- he lost the tip of his finger because of her.

Humana are individuals and stereotypes are just that- not everyone fits. Men don't report domestic violence anywhere near a often as women, doesn't mean that they don't do it.

For people unable to view the video: this is a story out of the UK of the first case of a woman being convicted of coersive control aka long term severely controlling domestic violence. The guy in this was abused for years, being stabbed and burnt by his girlfriend. Police said when they found him he was likely around 10 days away from death.

Girls can be just as monstrous as guys. Don't let stereotypes convince you otherwise. Shitty behaviour is shitty behaviour, no excuses.

 

[DetectiveDuBois]

Humana are individuals and stereotypes are just that- not everyone fits.

This nigga typed this while calling all incels unaware of social interactions. This is the cucked brain of a 2021 soyboy.

 

[Chicken Picnic]

This nigga typed this while calling all incels unaware of social interactions. This is the cucked brain of a 2021 soyboy.

Brave of you to assume I'm a bloke m8

You gonna prove me otherwise? Prove to me many incels understand social interactions when they tout bullshit that lead people to believe shit like Elliot Roger saying he couldn't understand why no one would fuck him even tho he had nice clothes and a BMW.

 

[DetectiveDuBois]

Brave of you to assume I'm a bloke m8

You gonna prove me otherwise? Prove to me many incels understand social interactions when they tout bullshit that lead people to believe shit like Elliot Roger saying he couldn't understand why no one would fuck him even tho he had nice clothes and a BMW.

Ask one of them why he used his money for a gun instead of an escort lol. Here’s what I digged up.

 

[Exigent Circumcisions]

Sex is an evolutionary process

Wrong.

 

[DetectiveDuBois]

Wrong.

Ok go ahead? I’ll stop ‘sperging and hear how women view this shit.

 

[Exigent Circumcisions]

Ok go ahead?

It's a biological process. You could leave evolution out of it entirely and it would still be a biological process. Not so the reverse.

I’ll stop ‘sperging and hear how women view this shit.

Not a woman.

 

[DetectiveDuBois]

Ok brainlets enjoy the circle jerk. This is just Reddit tier garbage like r/freekarma4u.

peace.

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

This is not a unique example, I've seen numerous examples of specifically Zoomer women who are similar to this. Then lonely men are expected to bend over backwards for messes like this, and if they don't, they're the losers.

She is still a loser. Having sex doesn’t increase her net worth to society and if anything it’d be a detriment if she reproduced. The same applies to men IMO, sex itself doesn’t make a guy a productive member of society. It doesn’t make them successful. Chris Chan is proof that losing ones virginity doesn’t make one a better being.

Someone can still be a virgin or not be in a committed relationship and not be a loser. Some people have no interest in sex. Others focus on their careers or choose to go celibate.

*Edit* Honestly, I think it’d be better for someone to be a virgin than to date a woman who’s bipolar. Heck, I’d go so far as say it’d be better for someone to remain a virgin than to “stick it in crazy” even once. It’d save them a lot of head and heartache. Bipolar chicks will ruin your life.

One more observation: in general, I have noticed that incels tend to equalize the value of sex for both genders--I believe I read a post earlier about some gross BPD woman who has no problem finding a partner--but this is another mistake. The biological consequences of sex mean that women are much pickier about sexual partners than men are, and so this idea that male and female incels are starting on an equal playing field needs to be abandoned. Poorly-functioning women have no problem finding sex; it's commitment they're going to have trouble with. I have no problem banging out some gross bar skank 10 minutes before last call, after 15 beers and a shot of tequila, but I sure as fuck won't bring her home to meet my mom. If you've ever browsed femcel boards, you'd know that this is what they complain about; not their lack of sex.

It’s not that women don’t like sex or hot dudes, it’s just that sex is less important to them in general compared to men, whereas a lot of men, value sex above all else, including relationships. Which is self evident if you compare gay men to lesbians, but also incels to cat ladies. Women are also more likely to be forgiving of their partner being unfaithful sexually than men, especially if it means saving the relationship.

Men compete for sex; women compete for commitment. I suppose from the male incel's point of view, the former feels much worse than the latter, but believe me when I say that women whose eggs are drying up and can't find a husband have just as big of a bitter, hateful freak out over it as young men do when they can't find a sexual partner.

This is true. It’s why a lot of cat lady feminists are bitter about others having happy relationships even if they aren’t virgins.

This nigga typed this while calling all incels unaware of social interactions. This is the cucked brain of a 2021 soyboy.

The whole rating thing reminds me of one of my roommates in college. He kept a log of women that he would rate and would write lengthy explanations. It gave me second hand embarrassment. He was surprised that a lot of people could see right through him too since he was very obvious... Ironically, he was the most fixated on getting a girlfriend/marrying someone but as far as I know he never dated anyone.