US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[verissimus]

Here are the leaked slides from the CDC mentioned in the Washington Post Article.
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More transmissible, sure, but it's still less deadly than all of the above.

 

[Only A Retard Sometimes]

My ass. If Biden couldn't even get a postal union to bend the knee, why would all (and I mean ALL) blue state governors jump on board for more lockdowns.

Beshear would LOVE another lockdown. means he gets to keep crying on TV. dont think it will go over well though. last time he has hun in effigy infront of the state capitol during one of his Covid speeches.

 

[Ebonic Tutor]

My ass. If Biden couldn't even get a postal union to bend the knee, why would all (and I mean ALL) blue state governors jump on board for more lockdowns.

The postal union will bend the knee, they just want their palm greased first.

 

[Duke Nukem]

I thought you would get the reference lol. Come on.

Yeah Tyrone Biggums, probably. I bet Dave Chappelle would get "cancelled" if he did it today.

 

[CarlosDanger]

What they are going to do is bill the Delta strain as a super bug. even more contagious and deadly. Then, lock down and when the deaths are inevitably way lower than Round 1 they will claim it is because of -their- policies.

Exactly, especially when the Delta Variant is known to come on strong but also burn out quickly. They are trying to stay afloat politically with the only issue they have any success with.

 

[Duke Nukem]

Exactly, especially when the Delta Variant is known to come on strong but also burn out quickly. They are trying to stay afloat politically with the only issue they have any success with.

Seems like a bit of a stretch to call it "success" really.

 

[CarlosDanger]

Seems like a bit of a stretch to call it "success" really.

In terms of support among Independents it is, it is the only policy they have over 50% support, everything else is floating in the 30's. The virus is all they have, if it goes away everything else comes to the forefront. He is under 50% approval in 3 polls(Monmouth, Rasmussen, Yougov) and his unapproval rating is up nearly 10% in just 7 months. This is also taking into account two polls are massive outliers, one giving him 58% approval and another giving him 54%.

 

[Trianon]

I think there is a lot of reasons for this but I think one big one is his poll numbers. The ONLY policy Biden is popular with Independents with is COVID response, everything else he is underwater. Just look at the RCP aggregate today. Monmouth, Rasmussen, and Yougov all have Biden under 50% approval, and Gallup has him right at 50%. His aggregate sits at 51.3% and that is because a Hill poll has him at 58% and a Reuters Poll has him at 54%. Monmouth and Yougov are polls that are notorious for oversampling Democrats, one Yougov approval poll was a D+13.

Now I mention all this because his COVID response has kept him above water for so long, but in latest polls that started slipping 6-7 points in the span of a month. They have nothing else, the huge infrastructure deal the far left wanted, fell apart. They can't pack the courts, they can't destroy the filibuster so they can't fortify the elections, they know what 2022 and 2024 is going to mean for them. They are getting so desperate so the only thing they know that unites the warring factions in the party is the virus.

It is Hitler trying to go through the Ardennes again in 1944. Then throw the audits that are coming out, the economy about to implode, the likeability of Harris and the dementia of Biden. This is their hail o mary as they see power slipping through their hands and potentially back into the hands of Trump. They went from love and unity and back to batshit insanity in less than 8 months.

It's funny because them leaving COVID alone for a while is one reason his poll numbers were sorta fine. But every time they direct their attention toward something, they fuck it up so badly that it tanks the numbers.

I'm not very hopeful about it, but if Virginia elects a red governor this year, I don't know how the federal administration will react. The reason it's a bit different this year is that the CRT and COVID school wars are happening right in Fairfax and Loudoun County, suburban Dem strongholds that majorly tilt the numbers in Dems' favor. It will be a major tell on where the public is on this because it could basically decide the election. If enough Dems are pissed, all hell is gonna break loose as Dems try to cover their asses.

 

[Ita Mori]

According to Jack Posobiec, his sources are saying delta lockdowns are a done deal, all blue state governors are onboard. Lockdowns to start second week of August.

Lol blue states also just caved to big business and ceased lockdown neetbux to anyone who isn't a cripple.

I don't believe for a second they'll allow lockdowns to happen. Blue states are the most vaccinated and ultimately answer to Bezos, Ronald McDonald, and Mickey Mouse. Not the American federal government and certainly not to their constituents.
They need their wage slaves back. Hurting businesses is all fun and games until it hurts the people who matter.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Riots are the voice of the unheard and masks make it a bitch for anyone to be heard.

Also makes it a bitch to be identified.

 

[DDBCAE CBAADCBE]

I genuinely hear next to nothing about Biden, he seems to be a pretty boring president who doesn’t really do much.

 

[Ita Mori]

The world needs to hold China accountable for this outbreak.

Well Mike Lindell has pulled all his ads from Faux News lol.

Lol, why?
I didn't take him for being based.
Ex-crackhead, yes. RINO larping as populist, perhaps. But actually based?

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

I genuinely hear next to nothing about Biden, he seems to be a pretty boring president who doesn’t really do much.

No, the media doesn't want to document his slip into dementia, but they have to have cameras running in the press room, so we see bits of him falling apart.

 

[likeacrackado]

I'm very skeptical that the Dems will pull something that will heavily damage their midterm chances. While I'm not on board with the conservative libertarian stance that political parties' focus is always on retaining power short term, I dont see why they would completely disregard thay now and throw their relections to the wind.

 

[Gehenna]

I'm very skeptical that the Dems will pull something that will heavily damage their midterm chances. While I'm not on board with the conservative libertarian stance that political parties' focus is always on retaining power short term, I dont see why they would completely disregard thay now and throw their relections to the wind.

I think I have a grasp on their political strategy here.

1: Massively hype the Delta Variant, make it the Black plague in the minds of the citizen.
2: Initiate lockdowns, do everything possible to force red states to go with (This is the big fail point)
3: Once lockdowns are secured, simply wait it out, get some booster shots ready.
4: As the disease is quite weak, the deaths are negligible.... but because it was so hyped the populace takes this as a major victory. Ride that wave as hard as possible.


It does make sense, even if the actual structure is flimsy as fuck. It's a helluva risky play and I'd say more likely to fail than succeed by an uncomfortably wide margin. But it might be their -only- play at this point. They have burnt all their political capital, literally all of it. The favors were cashed in well before that. Every other major point was either reneged upon to great damage or is an active crisis they can't handle without schisming their party. Covid is the only thing their head is slightly above water for, and the only leverage they have.

 

[Ita Mori]

4: As the disease is quite weak, the deaths are negligible.... but because it was so hyped the populace takes this is a major victory. Ride that wave as hard as possible.

Who; the red or the blue states?
Because if the disease is so weak it does little damage in red states that continued to operate normally, that makes the blue states look like they have 18 tons of egg on their face.

I think they need the disease to cause massive damage so they can point towards red states and claim that this is what happens when you don't listen to the CDC, the DNC, and Joseph Biden.

 

[Gehenna]

Who; the red or the blue states?
Because if the disease is so weak it does little damage in red states that continued to operate normally, that makes the blue states look like they have 18 tons of egg on their face.

I think they need the disease to cause massive damage so they can point towards red states and claim that this is what happens when you don't listen to the CDC, the DNC, and Joseph Biden.

You missed 2. As in, straight up had to ignore it to say this. Your comment doesn't even vaguely make sense unless you ignored it.

 

[Scale Smerch]

My ass. If Biden couldn't even get a postal union to bend the knee, why would all (and I mean ALL) blue state governors jump on board for more lockdowns.

It's what has me dubious this will actually happen. Great, you get roughly half the country to lock down again, then what? Florida, Texas and the like won't be following suit, and unlike last time those states won't be giving into the insanity given the current politics. There's also a lack of major issue - i.e. election - to use it as cover for, it's basically throwing the last vestiges of goodwill away for nothing.

Though on that note:

I think I have a grasp on their political strategy here.

1: Massively hype the Delta Variant, make it the Black plague in the minds of the citizen.
2: initiate lockdowns, do everything possible to force red states to go with (This is the big fail point)
3: Once lockdowns are secured, simply wait it out, get some booster shots ready.
4: As the disease is quite weak, the deaths are negligible.... but because it was so hyped the populace takes this is a major victory. Ride that wave as hard as possible.

This does seem probable, especially given how quickly media has ramped up the "hate the unvaxxed for your suffering" narrative this week and have put out the first feelers over booster shots. What I also suspect is they want to use this as cover to push further stimulus (and extend the eviction moratorium) given how fast that cliff is approaching. Really does seem like the intent is to go all-in on this, but this isn't 2020 and there's no orange man to suck up all the blame.

 

[Ita Mori]

You missed 2. As in, straight up had to ignore it to say this. Your comment doesn't even vaguely make sense unless you ignored it.

I ignored it because it will not happen. Red states would be committing political suicide if they lock down. DeSantis' momentum and career would go to absolute shit if he kowtows.
Hell, blue states are committing suicide lest they print even more money and give even more neetbucks in the proposed lockdown, paired with promising big businesses who need their wage cucks even more tax breaks and deals to make up for it.

 

[Gehenna]

It's what has me dubious this will actually happen. Great, you get roughly half the country to lock down again, then what? Florida, Texas and the like won't be following suit, and unlike last time those states won't be giving into the insanity given the current politics. There's also a lack of major issue - i.e. election - to use it as cover for, it's basically throwing the last vestiges of goodwill away for nothing.

Though on that note:

This does seem probable, especially given how quickly media has ramped up the "hate the unvaxxed for your suffering" narrative this week and have put out the first feelers over booster shots. What I also suspect is they want to use this as cover to push further stimulus (and extend the eviction moratorium) given how fast that cliff is approaching. Really does seem like the intent is to go all-in on this, but this isn't 2020 and there's no orange man to suck up all the blame.

They lack any other moves. I have mentioned Political Capital before, but what is it? Simply put, it's the 'currency' of politics.

Let us take a theoretical example:
Senator Alpha wants to have a bridge built in his state. He claims this bridge will greatly increase the efficiency of trade both with other states and a neighboring country. But, he is one Senator. He needs to convince other senators of this move. He starts with his own party, convincing them of the idea and providing ideas on how it might benefit the party as a whole. In order to grease the wheels, he notes that funds could be given to a construction firm in a neighboring state, which gets that state's senators on board.

That right there is Political Capital. The ability to grease the wheels, make a case, and 'fund' it through social interaction.

Now let's take it a bit bigger. A president is elected and gains a Mandate, effectively a voice from the American People in support of whatever he ran on. This Mandate is a more centralized and codified form of Political Capital, think of it as a big loan to be used to pay off the Executive's will, with the payments back being the gain of the American people.


The problem is that Political Capital is always ticking down. There is no way to passively generate it. You either gain it with your election or through kickbacks and pork-barrel spending meant to create Favors. Favors in a political context being less "I'll do this for you, then you do this for me" and more "I'll do some general kickbacks and pork, and I can call that in at a later date". It's less direct than a favor in a normal person context and acts as a lump sum payment of Political Capital with specific groups.



So, why am I explaining all this about Political Capital, Mandates, and Favors? Well, keep in mind Political Capital is -always ticking down-. It must be generated in lump sums. The Biden Admisnitrations's problem is that all the Political Capital it ever had was spent. The Capital gained from Favors was spent to make people look away from the election tomfoolery and to do the initial sweep of changes and fortifications. The plan from there then was to use the Capital gained from the Mandate in order to generate more Capital. But that fell through. The election bill and filibuster changes both died and were Capital expenses without any gain. The audits have proven a consistent drain on capital with no gain even possible. Areas the mandate could be leveraged at proved deeply unpopular. And the schismatic nature of the Admin's handlers led to easy generators like student debt relief dying too. The end result is that all the Capital ran dry, they have 0 dollars in the bank. So that only leaves the last thing they have Capital in from the mandate. Covid. And well... the problem with that bundle of bombs is that the lack of favor Capital means getting Red States onboard diplomatically is off the table.

I ignored it because it will not happen. Red states would be committing political suicide if they lock down. DeSantis' momentum and career would go to absolute shit if he kowtows.
Hell, blue states are committing suicide lest they print even more money and give even more neetbucks in the proposed lockdown.

You can't just ignore it then try to pretend the rest of it is bad. You obviously see the big issue I explicitly mention in the post and why it's a risky maneuver. Also, you seem to miss the word 'force' in that. As in, apply leverage and not just ask politely. No shit it would be bad for Red States to go along, that's why I specifically said they need to FORCE them to go along.