Chris-Chan incest leak / Chris has been removed from 14 Branchland Court

[biozeminadae1]

Right, but I'll again point out that Chris knows incest is wrong and has stated it himself.

The standard - it'll probably vary by state somewhat, but in general - for an insanity defense is that you either do not understand what you are doing, or that what you are doing is wrong. That has nothing to do with whether you personally think the act is okay, or should be okay, but is about your capacity to understand your actions and the consequences of them.

In the case of Chris, we already know he understands that incest is wrong, and that it is illegal. Therefore, he's not going to get away from this by claiming his mental block made him do it. He understood his actions enough to try, and thankfully fail, to keep them hushed up.

Now maybe they'll put him in a secure institution regardless of that because he's nuts, but I don't know how that gets determined so who knows!

you quoted wrong

 

[Forte]

You know Chris in court, he bores easily. He has a small attention span.
The best outcome he can get is insanity plea. Tell him to shit himself and throw at the jury.

Again, I really don't think you realize how much WORSE being in an institution is. It's like jail only you get abused a lot more and have a lot less control over your life.

 

[FailedHope]

why dress up like an old lady? why mace a guy for no reason? why rape his mom? he's an idiot and do things for no reason. I'm not saying what he said is 100% false. I'm saying I'm skeptical about it.

That's fair, I'm just saying there's no real reason to be incredulous of someone hiring a whore, because, if he's lying about it, why not just do it?

 

[Daphne-Spergwatch]

Update: He got doxed lol. Imagine putting your government security clearance at risk to fuck with an autistic person online.

you are now entitled to change your flair text to the past tense and take a victory lap

Hahaha his doxxing just screams fuck around and find out.

 

[UngaWunga]

That's fair, I'm just saying there's no real reason to be incredulous of someone hiring a whore, because, if he's lying about it, why not just do it?

Virginia isn't the only place for virgins.

 

[Blue_Snow]

That's fair, I'm just saying there's no real reason to be incredulous of someone hiring a whore, because, if he's lying about it, why not just do it?

everything he does make no sense. maybe he want it to sound more believable and he thought this could make it sound more like it. I dont know. he does shit for no reason. take everything he say with a grain of salt.

 

[super thug]

I disagree with the notion that Chris has no idea he has done something wrong. In the messages he states clearly that this should be "confidential", and he has stated in other places that incest is wrong.

As for Barb starting it, maybe, but fuck again in the messages Chris seems to be talking about how he was massaging her and pushing the boundaries etc. She even told him it hurts.

All pointing to the rape of his elderly mother, which is just fucking atrocious. The guy shouldn't be free.

As I said, I believe the "confidentiality" thing was probably his own mom telling him not to tell anyone else about what was going on. He's absolutely shameless in his delivery of the details, I think he was only keeping it a secret because she asked him not to tell anyone. The lack of shame, plus the need for confidentiality.. this is something that suggests to me that it wasn't all him.

That part's the only time he goes into his retarded spiritual mode. If I want to stay optimistic, maybe that's a sign that he was imagining at least some of this stuff happening, hopefully some of the worse stuff.
Something happened. It seems bizarre that a mother would start grooming an adult son well into dementia, but I've never felt like I had a handle on Barb.

I don't think she's as disabled as she wants everyone to believe. I get the impression she's a rather awful parent and pretty deceptive in general.

 

[Xenomorph]

It's amazing how people want to clamber onto their memories of chris being that misunderstood retard from yesteryear.
He isnt and hasnt been for a long time
Lots of people run to making excuses beyond the typical "its not real hurr" but blaming, null, kiwi, other chan trolls, twitter, trannies etc.
Point is he knew what he was doing, had a plan to ease Barb into this awful shit and knew it was wrong as he was hiding what he was doing and making it like a game to guess who his "sweetheart" was.
He did it, it sucks, its disgusting and terrible and fucks up over a decade of information and I get it. Doesnt change who he is at his core and no amount of anything would make him do something he didnt himself want to do.

 

[Mr E. Grifter]

Chris said he hated blarms and yet bought all the Sonic Boom merch and games, Chris said he hated Equestria Girls and yet he ended up loving the movie, bought all the merch, and carried around the figures in his purse, Chris said he hated gays and being LGBTABC was wroooong, and yet look at him now.

Chris said incest was wrong... and yet now...

Your point being what?
The question is whether Chris is capable of understanding his actions, not whether he actually believed it to he wrong.

 

[Strictly Confidential]

Also lol, good on null for breaking the "Don't buy from chris" advice to get bit right in the ass but I don't think Chris could have seen this wisdom come back to bite him harder.

 

[UngaWunga]

Dementia isn't an all or nothing thing. It's possible she consented on some level, but wasn't quite there or aware enough of the situation. They can have a hard enough time remembering family members are that haven't metamorphosed into a genderwreck sewer Christ are.

Not to mention its hard to say how much her enfeebled state made her open to taking on aspects of Chris' delusions.

Tl;dr it's probably extremely messy, but I don't have much of a problem saying it's probably definitely rape.

Edit: To clarify, I'm not saying Barb was at all capable of any informed consent (Probably would not have had sex with their child otherwise) but that its likely she was coerced into consent while also being trapped in a weird La La land where Chris' delusions are seeping into her own addled brain.

I should have been a little more clear that this I was not trying to say Barb was capable of active informed consent. Which is generally rape, unless you live in the heathen UK apparently.

 

[Special Agent Punchy]

That doesn't explain why he admitted he was raping Barb to Dillin, given he could tell Dillin wasn't happy about it (and why he was initially evasive). It would have been far easier for Chris to explain he lied to Bella/Fiona/whoever as part of his love quest.

Damned retard's advocate: for all we know, Chris could still be talking to Bella and Fiona. Maybe he doesn't want them to realize he's lied?

Thinking about that stolen $750, maybe the reason Chris got a ticket for a Seattle convention out of the blue was to meet these boyfriend-free girls? He mentioned Fiona having a hotel room for a day in the full leak. Maybe Chris is still trying to connect with them?

 

[pogo]

Chris mentioned using a condom,

my floor is caked in vomit and every sharp object and hard, fat surface, corner & countertop ledge is a potential avenue for suicide.

At least he didnt fuck his mom raw? Fuck

Another possibility to consider - what if Barb throws Chris under the bus? She may feel shame over what happened, especially if she herself believes it to have been consensual. She may also wish to avoid punishment or a bad reputation.

Or maybe even borb doesn't like being raped by her fucked up man baby son.

 

[Taylor Swift's Ghostwrite]

Right, but I'll again point out that Chris knows incest is wrong and has stated it himself.

The standard - it'll probably vary by state somewhat, but in general - for an insanity defense is that you either do not understand what you are doing, or that what you are doing is wrong. That has nothing to do with whether you personally think the act is okay, or should be okay, but is about your capacity to understand your actions and the consequences of them.

In the case of Chris, we already know he understands that incest is wrong, and that it is illegal. Therefore, he's not going to get away from this by claiming his mental block made him do it. He understood his actions enough to try, and thankfully fail, to keep them hushed up.

Now maybe they'll put him in a secure institution regardless of that because he's nuts, but I don't know how that gets determined so who knows!

My point has not been that I'm positive he is insane. But rather that the stuff you are citing is coming from an unreliable narrator who is attempting to make those who read him like him. If Chris told me his favorite color I would want pics of shit he owned in that color before I'd buy it.

Armchair psych is fun but Chris is too extreme to really sort out what is going on in his head through the shit he curated to show us.

 

[Tikbalang]

But why a prostitute?

He's an incel. He was once a Virgin with Rage. Women find him repulsive, so he paid someone who's willing.

 

[Aldora]

He did it, it sucks, its disgusting and terrible and fucks up over a decade of information and I get it. Doesnt change who he is at his core and no amount of anything would make him do something he didnt himself want to do.

Exactly. In the final analysis of the situation, Chris is and always has been a thoroughly unpleasant, selfish, pig headed, know-it-all.

This is all just all of us shouting into the wind and trying to make our own sense out of it.

 

[Mr E. Grifter]

As I said, I believe the "confidentiality" thing was probably his own mom telling him not to tell anyone else about what was going on. He's absolutely shameless in his delivery of the details, I think he was only keeping it a secret because she asked him not to tell anyone. The lack of shame, plus the need for confidentiality.. this is something that suggests to me that it wasn't all him.

Until there is any evidence Barb was in favour of it, this is just complete speculation. We have Chris' own fucking words saying he was building up to doing this by pushing the boundaries with his massages.

In terms of shame, he was talking to someone pretending to be open and accepting of this. Abusers aren't actually ashamed of their actions, they are ashamed of how people view them for it. Chris thought he had an accepting confidante - luckily he didn't.

Being non-judgemental and outwardly accepting is actually how police get nonces to talk in interview.

There's no reason to add further assumptions in this until further evidence comes along to suggest otherwise. Chris isn't an innocent retard, he's a fucking monster.

 

[No Nuts No Glory]

I could see it as Chris may have known on some level just how wrong their actions were but had convinced themselves on some level that it was just "to help Barb", not for selfish reasons. Maybe they began to believe in that explanation, abandoning the logical reasoning as to why you maybe shouldn't do that shit.

"You lie to yourself enough, you'll begin to believe it" type stuff.

 

[Juan But Not Forgotten]

Damned retard's advocate: for all we know, Chris could still be talking to Bella and Fiona. Maybe he doesn't want them to realize he's lied?

That's incredibly farfetched. Have you even read what he said to Dillin? He said "yes" and "it's a test". If he was lying, he would say "no, I didn't, but please keep it secret".

Thinking about that stolen $750, maybe the reason Chris got a ticket for a Seattle convention out of the blue was to meet these boyfriend-free girls? He mentioned Fiona having a hotel room for a day in the full leak. Maybe Chris is still trying to connect with them?

As far as we know he is still in his town. Also, ehm, Fiona was Barb all along.

 

[UngaWunga]

I could see it as Chris may have known on some level just how wrong their actions were but had convinced themselves on some level that it was just "to help Barb", not for selfish reasons. Maybe they began to believe in that explanation, abandoning the logical reasoning as to why you maybe shouldn't do that shit.

"You lie to yourself enough, you'll begin to believe it" type stuff.

Ultimately the only thing I'm fairly sure of is that Chris-chan believes whatever they do is fine and good more than you or me or anyone here believe in anything.