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As much as Doug blows his foot, mouth, and anything off that he can possibly do. At least he's putting out books.
Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!
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Chris Chan is also very prolific.
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Our very own Mister Dongs is making his debut on D&V Investigations. Don't forget to tune in to this historic stream tonight.
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We will be talking with Mister Dongs about the latest dust up over ComicsGate using Kickstarter and take a look at the economic realities of both IGG and KS....
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I am so disappointed that he sounds so white.Our very own Mister Dongs is making his debut on D&V Investigations. Don't forget to tune in to this historic stream tonight.
#TDG: KickStarting ComicsGate? with Mister Dongs
We will be talking with Mister Dongs about the latest dust up over ComicsGate using Kickstarter and take a look at the economic realities of both IGG and KS....
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Don't sweat it, you're still whiter!
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I got my Frogbook last night. It came in a cool ass box filled with styrofoam packaging.It also came with some trading cards, a trapper keeper thing that you can put your cards in when you get plastic sleeves and Unfrogetable Tales 3 With a foil cover. All in all, I’m pretty satisfied with my purchase. I got a lot of material to read now.
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It's cute that you still thought it was about mutual support, not internet drama and backbiting.
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He is the second whitest black avatar on the internet after Kwanza
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Frog went on Nicky Rackets for the first time this campaign to shill frog toys, and couldn't make $5K. Nobody outside his circle-jerk cares about cybernetic amphibians it seems. In comparison, Dirtworm Doug went on Rackets for an hour and made over $25K for a $25 book. That could have been as many as a thousand backers (probably much less), EVS got less than 20.
The lesson of this story: Cybernetic Worms > Cybernetic Frogs.
First time campaign is mentioned, 1863 backers:
Last time campaign is mentioned 1881 backers after 4 hours of shilling.
Unhappy Frog face. Don't worry, Frog, all you have to do is get on a friendly toy based channel like Heels vs Babyface and you're set.
The lesson of this story: Cybernetic Worms > Cybernetic Frogs.
First time campaign is mentioned, 1863 backers:
Last time campaign is mentioned 1881 backers after 4 hours of shilling.
Unhappy Frog face. Don't worry, Frog, all you have to do is get on a friendly toy based channel like Heels vs Babyface and you're set.
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It's made $5k from 28 more backers since then. 36 hours left in the first 30 days for the last $10.5k to be funded. I'm sure it will but have to think this is a disappointment.
Did I hear right that they're about to sell art supplies now too? I will admit that selling blank paper is a lot easier than drawing something on it first so good idea. Might be fulfilled on time too.
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I’d doubt Zach’s ability to fulfill imaginary bags of ether without a 6-month delay.
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You do understand that this will be funded and will probably reach over half a million after he leaves it in demand, right?
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So, I went on Rekieta last night to discuss the filing of my Motion to Dismiss the trademark filing ComicsGate by Preston Poulter. Here: https://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v...ameop=&propname=&pop=&pn=&pop2=&pn2=&cop=&cn=
It's publicly available today!
As for the toys,
,according to Mister Dongs, we're the highest funded campaign across both platforms for 2021, and we're not even 30 days in. $400,000 in a month, with another month of funding to go, and an In Demand period after that...we're going to make high quality action figures. It's a given that we've pretty much succeeded, it's now only a matter of feathering our nest with extras. The line is being carried by Big Bad Toy Store, which is the first time a retailer has carried CYBERFROG product since the '90s. That is important.
As for TenNapel, wasn't his $25K night on Rackets the last night of his campaign? I could be misremembering, but I thought he closed out EARTHWORM JIM on Nick's channel.
This wasn't the last night of anything, and Rekieta's audience still added probably $10,000 to the campaign all told, making the final stretch so much easier for tomorrow evening. We did $48,000 on day 30 of REKT PLANET on my channel. We'll do great tomorrow night! Hit me with those rainbows!!!
It's publicly available today!
As for the toys,
,according to Mister Dongs, we're the highest funded campaign across both platforms for 2021, and we're not even 30 days in. $400,000 in a month, with another month of funding to go, and an In Demand period after that...we're going to make high quality action figures. It's a given that we've pretty much succeeded, it's now only a matter of feathering our nest with extras. The line is being carried by Big Bad Toy Store, which is the first time a retailer has carried CYBERFROG product since the '90s. That is important.As for TenNapel, wasn't his $25K night on Rackets the last night of his campaign? I could be misremembering, but I thought he closed out EARTHWORM JIM on Nick's channel.
This wasn't the last night of anything, and Rekieta's audience still added probably $10,000 to the campaign all told, making the final stretch so much easier for tomorrow evening. We did $48,000 on day 30 of REKT PLANET on my channel. We'll do great tomorrow night! Hit me with those rainbows!!!
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If I buy some blank paper from you can you go ahead and sign the bottom of each page like Dali used to do?So, I went on Rekieta last night to discuss the filing of my Motion to Dismiss the trademark filing ComicsGate by Preston Poulter. Here: https://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v...ameop=&propname=&pop=&pn=&pop2=&pn2=&cop=&cn=
It's publicly available today!
As for the toys,
As for TenNapel, wasn't his $25K night on Rackets the last night of his campaign? I could be misremembering, but I thought he closed out EARTHWORM JIM on Nick's channel.
This wasn't the last night of anything, and Rekieta's audience still added probably $10,000 to the campaign all told, making the final stretch so much easier for tomorrow evening. We did $48,000 on day 30 of REKT PLANET on my channel. We'll do great tomorrow night! Hit me with those rainbows!!!
[oh come on that shits funny]
Mister Dongs
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To recap,
In my previous post about the conflict of Kickstarter (affectionately dubbed 'Cuckstarter') versus Comicsgate and their comparative merits, I mentioned throwing in my own two cents, which was that I found it especially egregious for someone on the top to demand dozens of struggling creators and enterprises uphold an embargo on the largest crowdfunding platform upon threat of exclusion. To add a bit of weight to the argument, I went ahead and did a quick tally of Comicsgate campaigns sorted by funding raised and went around posting them on streams as part of an initiative to, uh, promote discussion.
Total Number of CG Projects Launched in 2021: 122
Total Raised for CG Projects Launched in 2021: $2,165,800.24
Put another way, the sizeable majority (65.55%) of Comicsgate campaigns have grossed under $10,000. If, as @Mecha puts it, Comicsgate "is about being able to make money in comics without being cancelled", having to choose between making enough money to stay in business or being cancelled doesn't seem in line with its stated mission.
On a Well Read User stream, Frog took exception to this statistic of majority Comicsgate penury, arguing that results on Kickstarter are the same and challenging myself to make a comparison against Kickstarter crowdfunding. As far as I know, there isn't any comics-specific crowdfund aggregator like CreatorGo for Kickstarter. However, I was able to find this webcrawler that compiles all of Kickstarter's crowdfunds info into a 160 MB text file, filtered out all non-comic campaigns and was left with a spreadsheet where Kickstarter 2021 could be assessed (249 campaigns have been launched in 2021 totalling $4.2M) and compared to Comicsgate 2021 (attached at bottom of post) and an answer to the question of whether it is more profitable for an independent creator to go in either direction
Of note:
In my previous post about the conflict of Kickstarter (affectionately dubbed 'Cuckstarter') versus Comicsgate and their comparative merits, I mentioned throwing in my own two cents, which was that I found it especially egregious for someone on the top to demand dozens of struggling creators and enterprises uphold an embargo on the largest crowdfunding platform upon threat of exclusion. To add a bit of weight to the argument, I went ahead and did a quick tally of Comicsgate campaigns sorted by funding raised and went around posting them on streams as part of an initiative to, uh, promote discussion.
Total Number of CG Projects Launched in 2021: 122
Total Raised for CG Projects Launched in 2021: $2,165,800.24
CG $52.5K+ | 10 | 8.40% |
CG $10K+ | 31 | 26.05% |
CG $10K- | 30 | 25.21% |
CG $5K- | 48 | 40.34% |
Put another way, the sizeable majority (65.55%) of Comicsgate campaigns have grossed under $10,000. If, as @Mecha puts it, Comicsgate "is about being able to make money in comics without being cancelled", having to choose between making enough money to stay in business or being cancelled doesn't seem in line with its stated mission.
On a Well Read User stream, Frog took exception to this statistic of majority Comicsgate penury, arguing that results on Kickstarter are the same and challenging myself to make a comparison against Kickstarter crowdfunding. As far as I know, there isn't any comics-specific crowdfund aggregator like CreatorGo for Kickstarter. However, I was able to find this webcrawler that compiles all of Kickstarter's crowdfunds info into a 160 MB text file, filtered out all non-comic campaigns and was left with a spreadsheet where Kickstarter 2021 could be assessed (249 campaigns have been launched in 2021 totalling $4.2M) and compared to Comicsgate 2021 (attached at bottom of post) and an answer to the question of whether it is more profitable for an independent creator to go in either direction
Surprise! They're the exact same!
KS $52.5K+ | 20 | 8.13% |
KS $10K+ | 66 | 26.83% |
KS $10K- | 53 | 21.54% |
KS $5K- | 107 | 43.50% |
Of note:
- As I suspected, both CG and KS economies look to function under the 80-20 rule, or the Pareto Principle, which I've written about at length here.
- Kickstarter is larger than Comicsgate on an almost perfect 2:1 ratio, having both double the number of campaigns and funding raised as well as those results distributed identically
- The most significant difference proportionally are Comicsgate campaigns being 10% more likely to cross over the $5000 threshold
- While Comicsgate 2021 is almost certainly going to have a smaller take than CG 2020, Kickstarter 2021 is (barring another blockbuster campaign by Boom Studios) also on course to to have a smaller take than 2020 as well. I take this to mean an economic downturn is in effect.
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Sure!
I'm making my own comic boards because I'm not satisfied with what's available to me outside of DC Comics. Their paper is great. IMAGE paper was better. So I thought I'd manufacture my own blue-line drawing boards with the ALL CAPS logo at the top. My wife said that we might as well make it available on Amazon too! A good idea. Let's make a better product that all comic artists use, and make my paper pay for itself.
Thanks for doing this work, Mister Dongs.
BTW, ComicsGate isn't about creators getting to "make money" in comics, Mecha, it's only about getting to make comics. Obviously most people don't make money in comics. Not even in the mainstream.
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Oh I know but the jokes write themselves with CG getting in the blank paper business.
Don't you dare compare Chris Chan to Doug!
That has nothing to do with quality or fulfillment simp.
Welp, there you have it. Play by all the arbitrary, and not evenly applied, rules of the CG Kangs and you still might not make it.
Of course, while you watch Indiegogo hold you up like SJWs you can seethe as Billy Tucci gets to use Kickstarter and Indiegogo like a champ.
Go small creators!
Mecha
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Ok, maybe a bit optimistic of me, and poorly worded but I doubt there's a single CG project that isn't hoping to make some kind of money. I agree being able to make a book is probably the biggest point to make in CG, especially in the face of a still ongoing cancel culture.
With the numbers being compiled, the excitement over huge campaigns, and more products being offered everyone should be chasing a big payday. Hopefully by offering a good project. Obviously not everyone will hit the big numbers, but that shouldn't stop you from trying. Like I said, some people are doing their best work in CG.
If CG is over 2 million this year that means there's people with money interested in comics. They have and will spend money here. No reason smaller campaigns shouldn't be striving for a piece of that, even if it is only below the $5k threshold the majority can't get over.
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Except that the post I was answering was specifically about fulfillment you A-logging faggot.