Chris - The Legal Issues - A Prosecutor's Perspective

[Kosher Dill]

I think there is a very high likelihood that there could be child pornography or similar on his computer.

I think it's like drugs. Whether he wants that stuff or not, he's too dumb to find it on his own (or at least, not without getting caught immediately). And unlike drugs, I doubt weens are willing to ply him with CP.

 

[Tears for T]

The worst mistake Chris made was specifically stating how many times he fucked her. He's not going to see the light of day.

Exactly, the tard was even proud over it.

 

[FFinfo]

Exactly, the tard was even proud over it.

What’s the likelihood each instance is charged separately?

 

[Bitch Cakes]

I think comparing previous abuse to marriage isn't that useful, as that is an instance of previous consent not justifing future consent not, previous abuse of consent leading to not being able to understand or recognise consent.

If CWC is following the rules for consent taught to him and practiced upon him by Barb, isn't it possible that he doesn't properly understand what consent is (in the same way we all do) in his interactions with Barb?

Like @Fareal said in another post, anything and everything that can be used as a mitigating factor in sentencing will be. Defense attorneys will argue that a defendant's difficult upbringing, abusive childhood, emotional immaturity are all reasons a sentence should be mitigated. That rarely works when you’re talking about someone who is being accused of raping their elderly mother, of whom they also act as a caretaker for.

What you are proposing, which is even theoretically extremely unlikely, would require Chris's attorneys to argue that Barb has been molesting and/or raping her adult son for decades and that Chris has been the victim of that crime. Those types of defenses are extremely unlikely to work and I cannot imagine a defense like this even being attempted in a non-murder case.

This has the potential to be a rape charge (right now, it is incest which appears to be able to be a misdemeanor or a felony and would almost certainly be pled down as @Alexander Hamilton said in his first post), which is definitely serious, but you don’t go for the “my mother was actually the one who had been raping and molest me for years“ defense for something that will almost certainly be pled down to a felony plea, a suspended sentence, and requirement to register as a sex offender.

Also, PD's are way too overworked to give this type of thing that kind of attention. Jose Baez is not going to represent Chris. Maybe if Chris killed Barb, that sort of defense theory would make more sense. But even then, Jose Baez, is not going to be Chris's lawyer.

 

[Tears for T]

What’s the likelihood each instance is charged separately?

Do not know, hopefully each abuse is taken as a separate charge.

 

[Likely]

I suspect the weens calling the cops so much made them think it was a high publicity case (not wrong). How likely was it that the charges being pressed was accelerated by the attention? Or were charges filed normally quickly and the arrest was accelerated?

On the jail lookup site, they say "INCEST W/ OWN CHILD OR GRANDCHILD". I assume this is not a super formal thing - just a "close enough" for the public.

 

[the khat quaffer]

I can't quote the OP directly (thanks Dear Leader) but I'd like to add something regarding the widely held belief that you can get out of trouble by pretending to be nuttier than squirrel shit.

Now I know everyone and their goddamn mother watches Jim Can't Swim's channel but his latest one takes a pretty nice jab at this false information. This is laid out in the beginning of the video, basically. tl;dw getting sent to a nut house instead of a jail is far, far worse and is, by no means, a preferable alternative. And you'll never fool anyone anyways so don't even try.

 

[AnOminous]

On the jail lookup site, they say "INCEST W/ OWN CHILD OR GRANDCHILD". I assume this is not a super formal thing - just a "close enough" for the public.

He fucked his mom. This is how pathetic Virginia is. They can't even get that basic fact right. It's fucking Virginia. Probably half the state is guilty of that.

 

[Who Now]

I don't know why people keep sperging about how they think he'll go to a looney bin. He knew what he was doing was wrong otherwise he would have told Null it was his mother instead of making up a person. The court doesn't care about his Merge or his delusions about Sonichu or not being able to hold a job or anything else like that.

Also, hopefully they will get proof, or more likely he will tell them, how many times and the details of what exactly went on. Then they can charge him for every one of them. This won't be a slap on the wrist unless they just don't want to be bothered with him.

Is Chris on the house title? If it si, and Barb is removed to a nursing home, can Chris go live in the house? I know it depends on the state but some won't take the house to pay for a nursing home if someone else is also on the title.

 

[smee]

All this has been reminding me of this guy in a Louis Theroux documentary. He raped his mom and was found NGRI.

 

[Bitch Cakes]

I suspect the weens calling the cops so much made them think it was a high publicity case (not wrong). How likely was it that the charges being pressed was accelerated by the attention? Or were charges filed normally quickly and the arrest was accelerated?

On the jail lookup site, they say "INCEST W/ OWN CHILD OR GRANDCHILD". I assume this is not a super formal thing - just a "close enough" for the public.

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I’m curious about this too. (

Spoiler

I'm licensed but I’m a corporate law fuck who has doesn't go to court and has almost zero interactions with the law in her day job.

)

I assume it all depends on what Barb told them and what her medical examination showed, which I assume we'll find out whenever Chris is arraigned. Logic tells me there is no way they arrested Chris just on the basis of the screenshot text messages and the recorded phone conversation, but I could very well be wrong. It had to have come from what they discussed with Barb - but who knows. I’m sure the frequent calls from the weens made this a higher priority than some of the other shit they had to do. And perhaps Chris being in a different part of the state could have been seen as him attempting to flee and they wanted to make an arrest before he crosses state lines. I have no idea.

I'll defer to the prosecutors/defense attorneys/LE-adjacent farmers, but absent a rape charge, some of this certainly seems accelerated.

As for the jail lookup info, I’m of two minds. It could be a simple selection error that happens all the time on those sorts of things. Or, it could be the closest they had, if what they are actually asserting is that he committed incest with someone who is under his care.

 

[AnOminous]

I don't know why people keep sperging about how they think he'll go to a looney bin. He knew what he was doing was wrong otherwise he would have told Null it was his mother instead of making up a person. The court doesn't care about his Merge or his delusions about Sonichu or not being able to hold a job or anything else like that.

Also, hopefully they will get proof, or more likely he will tell them, how many times and the details of what exactly went on. Then they can charge him for every one of them. This won't be a slap on the wrist unless they just don't want to be bothered with him.

Is Chris on the house title? If it si, and Barb is removed to a nursing home, can Chris go live in the house? I know it depends on the state but some won't take the house to pay for a nursing home if someone else is also on the title.

Yeah whatever retard, I'm sure Virginia wants to spend millions of dollars to prosecute some retard instead of just getting him to plead to some lesser charge.

 

[naaaaiiiiillllll!!!]

@AnOminous we need you to be serious with us right now. Give us legal knowledge about CWC and what's going on dude. We know you're shitposting (mostly) but come back to us.

 

[AnOminous]

@AnOminous we need you to be serious with us right now. Give us legal knowledge about CWC and what's going on dude. We know you're shitposting (mostly) but come back to us.

I have literally lost my mind. Still, though, the shit I've said about the financial crimes is probably right.

Put yourself in the mindset of a prosecutor. You have a choice between an insanely complicated case about incest.

Or a really simple case about a financial crime.

Which do you pick?

 

[Cuntster]

I think it’s safe to say the only way Chris will get off on all charges is if he represented by Harvey Dirdban.

 

[TherapyMan]

As for the jail lookup info, I’m of two minds. It could be a simple selection error that happens all the time on those sorts of things. Or, it could be the closest they had, if what they are actually asserting is that he committed incest with someone who is under his care.

Not a Virginia attorney, but have done a little research into VA sentencing guidelines and charges as a result of this entire mess. I believe it is just a shorthand of the internal crime code. On other documents, including sentencing guidelines, SEX-3616-F5 is just referred to as "Incest With own or step child or grand child."

 

[Enoby Way]

I think comparing previous abuse to marriage isn't that useful, as that is an instance of previous consent not justifing future consent not, previous abuse of consent leading to not being able to understand or recognise consent.

If CWC is following the rules for consent taught to him and practiced upon him by Barb, isn't it possible that he doesn't properly understand what consent is (in the same way we all do) in his interactions with Barb?

1. Comparison to marriage was an afterthought, take it out and the rest of what I said stands on its own. If consent was not given or was unable to be given at the time, that is rape. Prior history whether there was grooming, consensual sexual relationship etc, does not matter when you are looking at one incident only.

2. Not a lawyer, and have only worked loosely with the law in my own country but I assume there would be some similar principles that apply. What you are talking about is effectively mistake of fact vs mistake of law.

Mistake of fact--speed limit is 60, your speedometer says 60, but the officers clock you going at 70. Car is tested, speedo is whack. You genuinely thought you were following the rules and you were trying to do so. They will be more lenient. (You might get in trouble for an improperly calibrated car if there's a law about that, but that's a different matter. The point is you got off here.)

Mistake of law--the last sign you noticed showed 80, you keep driving at 80, your speedometer says 80. Officers pull you up and it turns out you missed a sign that said 60. They don't care that you were trying to follow what you thought was the rule, because you weren't abiding by the actual rule. That's a mistake of the law.

There is a legal definition of consent. Doesn't matter if Chris did everything by his personal definition of consent, even if that's what he was taught it was his whole life. If it doesn't match up with the legal definition, then he has committed a crime.

 

[FujiWuji]

Actual cuck Nick Rekieta posted this. Might help clarify some of the discussion.

 

[Faket0Fake]

I suspect the weens calling the cops so much made them think it was a high publicity case (not wrong). How likely was it that the charges being pressed was accelerated by the attention? Or were charges filed normally quickly and the arrest was accelerated?

On the jail lookup site, they say "INCEST W/ OWN CHILD OR GRANDCHILD". I assume this is not a super formal thing - just a "close enough" for the public.

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That'll just be on the jail's system, it's probably a drop down menu of charges and they don't have an entry for fucking your mom who has dementia. You can sometimes select "other" but most people working in custody aren't that interested in making more work for themselves so they select the closest thing. It's not the job of the cops or the jail to prosecute so it doesn't matter what they write because it doesn't decide what she's been charged with.

I bet Nick Rekieta is salivating right now about all the shekels he's going to extract from the asses of his followers and Kiwis to cover this and give his expert opinion as a mall lawyer and professional grifter.

 

[naaaaiiiiillllll!!!]

I have literally lost my mind. Still, though, the shit I've said about the financial crimes is probably right.

Put yourself in the mindset of a prosecutor. You have a choice between an insanely complicated case about incest.

Or a really simple case about a financial crime.

Which do you pick?