Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[Rupin]

Exactly. That and IGG apparently holding up campaigns while being the only campaign the little guys are allowed to use is bullshit.



Seemed kindof simpy. Anyone that thinks Ethan can't fund anything from his crowd is uninformed. Ethan funding isn't the issue. Its whether he can go beyond his Culture Warz clique.




Toys can still be made in the USA. He just wouldn't make the profit. We're talking massively underpaid people in foreign countries. Todd McFarlane's stuff was literal sweatshop.



He'll get some because they're crossover Fandom Rejects/Weeb Wars people. The real question. Can he and CG get people to just buy there stuff because its good, not because its fighting the culture war?

he has got over 2000 backers right now off toys. Unless your name is Todd McFarlane, No one else is pulling those numbers off of toys. This is off of a fan base that EVS built up. Are the people who made the Spawn campaign go to 3 million dollars simps too?

These people are fans and returning customers that made this campaign successful.

 

[Newman's Own]

it did sound like you were implying that he wouldn’t get funded. Rekieta’s people aren’t even comic book fans so yeah, that’s expected.

And yet TenNapel managed to do way better numbers on a comic in 1 hour compared to Ethan's four hours on stream.

I don't think it's the fact it's comics that led to the comparatively poor showing.

I'll take "Guys who doth protest too much for $200, Alex"

I think we need a new term for users here who pretend to hate a visiting e-celeb, breathlessly tag and harangue him with questions & comments whenever he shows up and then pray that he'll make their day with a response.

A-Simps?

Good work Transformer boy. I'm sure your head pat is incoming.

Are the people who made the Spawn campaign go to 3 million dollars simps too?

Hard to say.

If they follow Todd religiously on Twitter and pay for "senpai notice me" super chats to purchase a moment of his disinterested attention then I'd have to say yes they are simps too.

The difference between fans and simps is the level of debasement they bring on themselves.

 

[Rupin]

And yet TenNapel managed to do way better numbers on a comic in 1 hour compared to Ethan's four hours on stream.

I don't think it's the fact it's comics that led to the comparatively poor showing.


Good work Transformer boy. I'm sure your head pat is incoming.


Hard to say.

If they follow Todd religiously on Twitter and pay for "senpai notice me" super chats to purchase a moment of his disinterested attention then I'd have to say yes they are simps too.

The difference between fans and simps is the level of debasement they bring on themselves.

Doug was also shilling a well known IP in Earthworm to people who are outside of the CG sphere. Do you think that he would have done as well if it were Bigfoot Bill he was trying to sell?

 

[Newman's Own]

Doug was also shilling a well known IP in Earthworm to people who are outside of the CG sphere. Do you think that he would have done as well if it were Bigfoot Bill he was trying to sell?

Probably not but I think he still would have done better than 20 backers and 1/5 the money.

Maybe the difference is that it's toys and not comics.
Maybe it's the simp factor.
Maybe Ethan had a subpar showing as a huckster that night.
Maybe CyberFrog just isn't as appealing as EWJ to Rekieta's demo.
Maybe Rekieta's non-CG audience resonates with Doug more than Ethan.

Who knows? Who cares? I just doubt that it was the fact he was shilling comics that made the difference since Doug recently had a successful outing on Rekieta's show selling comics.

 

[Starscreams Cape]

Maybe it's the simp factor.

The difference between fans and simps is the level of debasement they bring on themselves

Ethan A-simp status: Confirmed.

 

[Sex Cannon Lupa]

Are we simping now? Because I'm fully prepared to pledge my soul to Mandy Summers while Witten is MIA.

 

[Rupin]

Probably not but I think he still would have done better than 20 backers and 1/5 the money.

Maybe the difference is that it's toys and not comics.
Maybe it's the simp factor.
Maybe Ethan had a subpar showing as a huckster that night.
Maybe CyberFrog just isn't as appealing as EWJ to Rekieta's demo.
Maybe Rekieta's non-CG audience resonates with Doug more than Ethan.

Who tknows? Who cares? I just doubt that it was the fact he was shilling comics that made the difference since Doug recently had a successful outing on Rekieta's show selling comics.

two or three years ago when CG’s momentum was in full swing is not recent. Not only that but, there was also a lot of crossover at the time between Rekieta’s channel and the CG crowd who were friendly with Doug at the time. Can Doug do that now if he went on Rekieta’s show with Earth Worm Jim 3? I seriously doubt it.

 

[Mister Dongs]

I dunno guys, I heard if Doug TenNapel has to go on Steven Crowder or Nick Rekeita's shows to sell his comic, he doesn't have a sustainable business. And if he fails without their help, he deserves to fail.

 

[Newman's Own]

I dunno guys, I heard if Doug TenNapel has to go on Steven Crowder or Nick Rekeita's shows to sell his comic, he doesn't have a sustainable business. And if he fails without their help, he deserves to fail.

Pretty sure EWJ is a success with or without Crowder and Rekieta so that's a moot point.

 

[FROG]

I dunno guys, I heard if Doug TenNapel has to go on Steven Crowder or Nick Rekeita's shows to sell his comic, he doesn't have a sustainable business. And if he fails without their help, he deserves to fail.

This is the second time you did that this week. I'm becoming a fan.

Speaking of fans, though, my a-logs here calling my fans simps and then saying that I don't have any fans outside...you know, of MY FANS is fucking retarded. It's this kind of gaslighting that I believe is BENEATH THE DIGNITY OF KIWIFARMS.

Shameful.

 

[A nameless trool]

I don't know about less well known brands. Ethan was talking about this and acting like the Darkness, which debuted after Cyberfrog, is somehow and existing property but AllCaps, Cyberfrog/Creed (been around since the 90s), Earthworm Jim, 90s, aren't I guess.

Even if you look at the next tier. Jon Malin, Marvel/Liefeld artist. Shane Davis, DC artist working with Geoff Johns on GL.

I guess IGG is better for that next to last tier creator to get funded. But what's the upper mobility? How many Gators are moving up the way someone like Tim Lim has over on KS?

#1 on Kickstarter is Jeff Smith, creator of Bone. The rest of the top 10 is recognized creators or comics publishers
#1 on IGG is EVS penciller of Green Lantern and Flash. Then you get a number of blacklisted creators and some literally whos who youtube.

There is a difference here.

 

[Newman's Lovechild]

Ethan A-simp status: Confirmed.

This is like some kind of wokist who's resorted to screaming racist! in a desperate attempt to shut down criticism and discussion. The fact you're even set off by a barely-spicy list of possibilities for Frogs poor Rekeita showing, only cements the impression that Ethan's followed around by a clucking flock of simps.

It would be different if Newman's Own said something like, Ethan sold few toys through Rackets stream because he's a fat sleazy pile of shit and anyone who isn't already one of his brainwashed culchur wohr simps can smell the shitstink coming off him through their screens. Just as a hypothetical.

Add to that the levels of cope this displays because of the unvarnished fact that relative normies looked at the plastic bread and wine offered by comics lord and savior and though "nah".

I dunno guys, I heard if Doug TenNapel has to go on Steven Crowder or Nick Rekeita's shows to sell his comic, he doesn't have a sustainable business. And if he fails without their help, he deserves to fail.

There's a difference between the shilly but traditional tour of talk shows, selling your book, and going cap in hand to Don Froggieone to pledge your 'friendship' and join the Comicsgate 'family' because you think that's the only way to have any success. If you later waver in your loyalty, Luca Malin will pay you a visit.
YMMV on how wide the gap is.

 

[FROG]

This is like some kind of wokist who's resorted to screaming racist! in a desperate attempt to shut down criticism and discussion. The fact you're even set off by a barely-spicy list of possibilities for Frogs poor Rekeita showing, only cements the impression that Ethan's followed around by a clucking flock of simps.

It would be different if Newman's Own said something like, Ethan sold few toys through Rackets stream because he's a fat sleazy pile of shit and anyone who isn't already one of his brainwashed culchur wohr simps can smell the shitstink coming off him through their screens. Just as a hypothetical.

Add to that the levels of cope this displays because of the unvarnished fact that relative normies looked at the plastic bread and wine offered by comics lord and savior and though "nah".



There's a difference between the shilly but traditional tour of talk shows, selling your book, and going cap in hand to Don Froggieone to pledge your 'friendship' and join the Comicsgate 'family' because you think that's the only way to have any success. If you later waver in your loyalty, Luca Malin will pay you a visit.
YMMV on how wide the gap is.

There is something seriously wrong with you.

 

[Starscreams Cape]

This is like some kind of wokist who's resorted to screaming racist! in a desperate attempt to shut down criticism and discussion. The fact you're even set off by a barely-spicy list of possibilities for Frogs poor Rekeita showing, only cements the impression that Ethan's followed around by a clucking flock of simps.

It would be different if Newman's Own said something like, Ethan sold few toys through Rackets stream because he's a fat sleazy pile of shit and anyone who isn't already one of his brainwashed culchur wohr simps can smell the shitstink coming off him through their screens. Just as a hypothetical.

Add to that the levels of cope this displays because of the unvarnished fact that relative normies looked at the plastic bread and wine offered by comics lord and savior and though "nah".

The difference between us is that I like Ethan. You, however, love Ethan. You just don't know how to express it. So you do super gay things like show up when he appears to start posting really dumb shit to get his attention ("Notice me Froggy!") and also putting that eye rollingly cringe "Better a frog kicker than a frog licker" under your name (PLEASE NOTICE ME FROGGY!!!). This is a well known phenomenon, called "negging" in recent times.

I have gone months without posting in this thread, mostly because people like you have all but ruined it. Maybe you should do the same.

I think you need to quit EVS, as much as you think you can't.

 

[CapeKnight]

We get it Newmans, you have Ethan's name on repeat in your head and an immense craving to suck his balls. Seems like he's not interested, so go fuck each other behind a pizza parlor with each of you wearing a rubber Frog mask already.

 

[Mister Dongs]

There's a difference between the shilly but traditional tour of talk shows, selling your book, and going cap in hand to Don Froggieone to pledge your 'friendship' and join the Comicsgate 'family' because you think that's the only way to have any success. If you later waver in your loyalty, Luca Malin will pay you a visit.
YMMV on how wide the gap is.

Hey I just find it a bit funny that Doug TenNapel, a man that has spent decades networking with every underground conservative under the sun, from Hollywood to comics to Youtube, from Stephen Crowder to Sean Gordon Murphy to Frog to Mike Nelson to Major Grupert to Ethan Ralph, is now going around telling young people that they have to "do it without help from others", and if they can't do it without help they "deserve to fail".

 

[Starscreams Cape]

Hey I just find it a bit funny that Doug TenNapel, a man that has spent decades networking with every underground conservative under the sun, from Hollywood to comics to Youtube, from Stephen Crowder to Sean Gordon Murphy to Frog to Mike Nelson to Major Grupert to Ethan Ralph, is now going around telling young people that they have to "do it without help from others", and if they can't do it without help they "deserve to fail".

I don't know if you saw the recent livestream on Nasser's Channel, but was it just me or did Doug seem like a beaten man? He looked subdued, morose and resigned. Maybe he finally realized that he is running out of people to use.

He's a long way from those carefree hoverboard days.

 

[jspit2.0]

he has got over 2000 backers right now off toys. Unless your name is Todd McFarlane, No one else is pulling those numbers off of toys. This is off of a fan base that EVS built up. Are the people who made the Spawn campaign go to 3 million dollars simps too?

These people are fans and returning customers that made this campaign successful.

I agree. And you've seen me clap at boomer Boyette that money is money. But having a narrow engaged audience is different than having a broad appeal that reaches a large number of largely disengaged people.

The issue here is one of business. Long term impact requires expansion beyond existing markets.

And yet TenNapel managed to do way better numbers on a comic in 1 hour compared to Ethan's four hours on stream.

I don't think it's the fact it's comics that led to the comparatively poor showing.

Isn't Doug's far more a known quantity to Rackets audience? I don't know.

Good work Transformer boy. I'm sure your head pat is incoming.

It does get kindof pathetic sometimes. Ethan tends to do just fine without the simpering.

This is the second time you did that this week. I'm becoming a fan.

Speaking of fans, though, my a-logs here calling my fans simps and then saying that I don't have any fans outside...you know, of MY FANS is fucking retarded. It's this kind of gaslighting that I believe is BENEATH THE DIGNITY OF KIWIFARMS.

Shameful.

Could you help me out Frogman. I thought CG went with customers. Richard has like a bajillion categories. Now your using fans. It's fucking confusing.

Also Alogs? That term loses all meaning when its indiscriminately applied to anyone who mehs in CG direction.

I have gone months without posting in this thread, mostly because people like you have all but ruined it. Maybe you should do the same.

Starscream. Hail ComicsGate. Feel better little fella? Was that enough to make you feel loved?

Hey I just find it a bit funny that Doug TenNapel, a man that has spent decades networking with every underground conservative under the sun, from Hollywood to comics to Youtube, from Stephen Crowder to Sean Gordon Murphy to Frog to Mike Nelson to Major Grupert to Ethan Ralph, is now going around telling young people that they have to "do it without help from others", and if they can't do it without help they "deserve to fail".

It's tone deaf like Jon Malin and Ethan telling creators not to use Kickstarter. Fuck Doug and the worm he rode in on.

I thought Mike Nelson threw Doug under the bus so hard he still has tire marks?

I don't know if you saw the recent livestream on Nasser's Channel, but was it just me or did Doug seem like a beaten man? He looked subdued, morose and resigned. Maybe he finally realized that he is running out of people to use.

He's a long way from those carefree hoverboard days.

CoVid man. CoVid.

 

[Starscreams Cape]

CoVid man. CoVid.

Did I miss something - does he have the coof?

 

[Newman's Own]

Hey I just find it a bit funny that Doug TenNapel, a man that has spent decades networking with every underground conservative under the sun, from Hollywood to comics to Youtube, from Stephen Crowder to Sean Gordon Murphy to Frog to Mike Nelson to Major Grupert to Ethan Ralph, is now going around telling young people that they have to "do it without help from others", and if they can't do it without help they "deserve to fail".

It looks more like "do it without depending on someone else to do it for you" to me.

Liam, Micah, Wenger, Malin, Cecil, Nasser, Antonio, Post, WarCampaign and the list goes on are all almost entirely dependent on one person for the success or failure of their projects. Whether you love or loathe Doug T. he's right, that is not sustainable as has been shown by Nasser and the others who fell out of favor and watched what were 5 figure earning IP's become unfundable dreck instantly. Maybe Starlight Sharts could have succeeded without it's creator prostrating himself in front of Ethan's flock regularly and making sure he never disagreed publicly but I doubt it.

The people you point to for having helped Doug are outside of CG and he had to hustle and form relationships with them to get the exposure on their platforms. That's why he's still in business and Micah looks like he's done.

CG creators aren't even "allowed" to go outside the CG approved crowdfunding platform. I don't see them cross promoting outside CG approved content creators either. Maybe they try to and fail, I don't know. It just looks like their all piglets jostling for position at a limited number of tits and without a spot on the big sow they starve.

Isn't Doug's far more a known quantity to Rackets audience? I don't know.

Could be. I find Nick unwatchable for the most part. I don't know either.