Tabletop Roleplaying Games (D&D, Pathfinder, CoC, ETC.)

[BiggerChungus]

"far from forward thinking"

I know it's old news and I'm preaching to the converted here but the absolute fucking gall of this faggot to get sand up his stink ditch because Sandy has the nerve to... follow people on twitter (milquetoast conservatives to boot) and... disagree with a opinion piece written by carpet-bagging homos at the Shitlantic. Hope SP just moves forward not giving a fuck but lately I'm more worried about the publishers folding faster than Superman on laundry day because of 12 psychos on twitter raising a stink.

Speaking of the dogshit Shitlantic article (https://archive.md/0jWdE - it's wretched and filled with Current Year snide winks and insinuations), I was curious about who the writer is and what his deal was...

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Rent free since 2016.

Again, old news to this thread but they are coming for everything you enjoy and will not rest until they've neutered, co-opted, and destroyed everything you enjoy because they can't build for shit. Tearing down is way easier than actually making things but the dopamine rush from doing so wears off oh so quickly. Gatekeep your hobbies and don't give money to people who hate you.

The face of a badass feminist ally.

 

[BIG BILL HELL'S]

Announcing R/disabled_dungeons

I want to thank the mods of r/DnD for letting me share my new community here. r/Disabled_dungeons is a place for table top gamers with disabilities and their allies to come together, share resources, tips, advice, experiences and a love for table top gaming. We strive to be a warm, inclusive, welcoming and most importantly helpful community.

Our goal is to help gamers with disabilities of all sorts thrive in the hobby that we all love, and to make that hobby as accessible as possible.

If you are a gamer with a disability, know someone who is, or just want to help out, please come and say hi. All are welcome.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Disabled\_dungeons/

Seems like the kind of thing that should get posted here. At first I thought it was a place for people who play wheelchair-bound PCs to congregate, but no.

 

[Judge Dredd]

Have any of you seen the combat wheelchair deployed in the wild? Cause I have.

Let me set the stage, game store reopens. Fresh campaigns at every table, some dangerhair steps up to my table and the guys I was playing with stupidly decide to let her join. She deploys it, we are all taken aback. We’d heard rumours but never seen one in person.

It was also that moment where I decided to start gatekeeping, both in game and out. Placing rocks in hallways so Wheelie couldn’t get through, removing ramps, icing floors and one point used a bomb loaded with corrosive gas, harmless to humans but bad for wood.

I can tell the full story if you guys want but holy shit, the types that actually use such a thing truly are a spectacle to behold.

What does this mean when it comes to "RPG safety" nonsense? I was under the impression that if you tried such things at a public game, they'd wave around the "x-card" and have the DM and players ejected for bigotry.

The obvious answer is this x-card nonsense isn't as common as the internet would have people believe.

Srsly though its epic stories like this that make me want to get into fucking TTRPGs

This will be an unpopular opinion. Most of these kinds of stories are fake, or are rare events that happen only in specific kinds of games.

As a general rule, if the story could be stopped by the DM or a reasonable person saying "no", then chances are it's bullshit.

 

[Corn Flakes]

What does this mean when it comes to "RPG safety" nonsense? I was under the impression that if you tried such things at a public game, they'd wave around the "x-card" and have the DM and players ejected for bigotry.

The obvious answer is this x-card nonsense isn't as common as the internet would have people believe.

X-cards only work when the GM and/or the store owner (for LGS-hosted games) allow it. If the relevant people have brains and aren't afraid of twitter, they stand to lose nothing by not implementing those policies. Unfortunately, a lot of people seem to think a baying horde on twitter translates to regulars abandoning them, when it's usually the opposite.

This will be an unpopular opinion. Most of these kinds of stories are fake, or are rare events that happen only in specific kinds of games.

As a general rule, if the story could be stopped by the DM or a reasonable person saying "no", then chances are it's bullshit.

That's usually my experience with idiots. Maybe it's because my GMs are both no-nonsense veterans, but dangerhairs tend to get one or two hard "no"s to the face and leave in a huff.

 

[Pentex]

Announcing R/disabled_dungeons


Seems like the kind of thing that should get posted here. At first I thought it was a place for people who play wheelchair-bound PCs to congregate, but no.

Based redditors don't exis....

Shame he'll probably catch a sub ban sooner than later.

r/Disabled_dungeons - Dungeons & Disabilities: Can tabletop RPGs redeem their problematic portrayal of disability?

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[Corn Flakes]

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r/Disabled_dungeons - Dungeons & Disabilities: Can tabletop RPGs redeem their problematic portrayal of disability?

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Sometimes I wonder whether these people are kidding. Surely, they must know how bad it is to be without sight or movement in the middle of combat.

But then I realize they live their entire lives online and have no connection to the real world, and it all makes sense. If you gave them the option to be a brain in a jar connected directly to twitter and their favorite porn website, they would take that opportunity in a heartbeat.

 

[BiggerChungus]

Announcing R/disabled_dungeons


Seems like the kind of thing that should get posted here. At first I thought it was a place for people who play wheelchair-bound PCs to congregate, but no.

I miss when people were encouraged to treat each other with common courtesy at the table instead of larping as "allies" as if there's a war going on.

 

[DDBCAE CBAADCBE]

So I am currently playing a level six human variant conjuration wizard featuring at present two feats, Keen Mind and Fey Touched, which I feel greatly compliment the overall theme of the character I’m trying to create here. Essentially what I’ve set out to develop is a perfectly self sufficient wizard using Minor Conjuration and Keen Mind in tandem to really abuse the ability to replicate objects within the limitations of Minor Conjuration. In doing this both I and several DMs have determined that thanks to Keen Mind I could simply summon my spellbook into existence when needed rather than having a physical copy which I have to carry around. This is of course to say that he is a wizard who can easily go unrecognized as such. He carries no wand nor arcane focus with which to cast his spells instead relying heavily upon verbal and somatic spells unless the need arises for him to conjure up a wand to cast other spells.

When I pick spells I try to ask myself what a reasonable person living in this setting who presumably has no intention of adventuring his whole life would take. As such many of his spells follow a similar theme of solving common issues such as but not limited to Minor Illusion, Prestidigitation, Feather Fall, Find Familiar, Longstrider, Arcane Lock, Identify, Alter Self, Misty Step, Dragon’s Breath, Nystul’s Magic Aura, Phantom Steed, and Galder’s Tower. Together these spells cover many necessities alongside creative uses of the Minor Conjuration and Keen Mind combination. This of course isn’t to say that I don’t have a few spells for combat but those aren’t as important right now.

Now coming up on level seven however I find myself faced with a difficult choice. I have the option of two spells from the fourth level list or one of fourth and the second of a different level below forth. At first I was certain I wanted to take Polymorph and Fabricate first as both spells offer a wide array of possible shenanigans ripe for abuse. However it dawned on me that if I had Fly I could cast that on my Phantom Steed and have a flying horse which could be very beneficial in combat and while dealing with moving equipment or multiple people over dangerous terrain. Now the reason this is a tough choice is because at level eight I’ll be picking up the feat Artificer Initiate so that I as a wizard can pick up Cure Wounds and Guidance as well as proficiency in Smithing tools with which I can further abuse Fabricate to make weapons and armor among other such valuables.

So the question then becomes do I take Fly now and pick up Fabricate at level eight? Or should I get Fabricate now and grab Fly at level eight alongside something fun like Dimension Door? I can see a lot of practicality for both choices personally.

If it matters the character, while practical in many practices, is a thief and charlatan who specializes in forgeries and false identities. A careful and methodical criminal who may be a bit too arrogant for his own good. His passion however is the mastery of his particular mage craft which very heavily plays into his philosophy and how he chooses to live his life through self sufficiency and outsmarting others.

 

[Raoul_Duke]

I have characters, I just wish I could get into a game of some kind that interests me.

 

[Moths]

This will be an unpopular opinion. Most of these kinds of stories are fake, or are rare events that happen only in specific kinds of games.

As a general rule, if the story could be stopped by the DM or a reasonable person saying "no", then chances are it's bullshit.

I expect the chance for such a tale to be rare but the CHANCE of having such a game is exciting. Or rather finding an epic DM and group

 

[Kup]

What does this mean when it comes to "RPG safety" nonsense? I was under the impression that if you tried such things at a public game, they'd wave around the "x-card" and have the DM and players ejected for bigotry.

The obvious answer is this x-card nonsense isn't as common as the internet would have people believe.


This will be an unpopular opinion. Most of these kinds of stories are fake, or are rare events that happen only in specific kinds of games.

As a general rule, if the story could be stopped by the DM or a reasonable person saying "no", then chances are it's bullshit.

I thought it was always a case by case basis with these people, usually depending on your store owner/GM and how much they’re willing to allow the insanity (on both sides to be honest)

Years of /tg/ have taught me that stories have no way of being verifiably true or not. But in personal experience I find that you get more….. extravagant stories with a DM that favours the RP over the numbers.

Sometimes I wonder whether these people are kidding. Surely, they must know how bad it is to be without sight or movement in the middle of combat.

But then I realize they live their entire lives online and have no connection to the real world, and it all makes sense. If you gave them the option to be a brain in a jar connected directly to twitter and their favorite porn website, they would take that opportunity in a heartbeat.

These people have never experienced the disabilities they champion, forgive the power leveling but I’ve experienced blindness. Temporarily of course due to repeat surgeries but the experience has been useful

A blind bastard can’t find his glass of water without either feeling around in the wrong place or knocking it over and making a mess. Not even mentioning having your roommate walk you to the bathroom so you don’t fall and break your neck on the stairs, almost tripping on a puppy and generally being a major burden.

Imagine bringing someone like that into a dungeon.

X-cards only work when the GM and/or the store owner (for LGS-hosted games) allow it. If the relevant people have brains and aren't afraid of twitter, they stand to lose nothing by not implementing those policies. Unfortunately, a lot of people seem to think a baying horde on twitter translates to regulars abandoning them, when it's usually the opposite.


That's usually my experience with idiots. Maybe it's because my GMs are both no-nonsense veterans, but dangerhairs tend to get one or two hard "no"s to the face and leave in a huff.

Independent game stores are generally less tolerant of the crazy. Except if you’re in like New York or one of the central shitholes but if you’re living in those places you have bigger problems than paused game stores.

 

[Adamska]

So last session of Cyberpunk I nearly killed two of my five players twice, blew an arm off of a player, and almost managed a near TPK at the end of combat via fertilizer bomb. Not gonna lie, the combat system's amazing when you get over how quickly you are going to fucking die if you don't play smart.

 

[Ghostse]

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r/Disabled_dungeons - Dungeons & Disabilities: Can tabletop RPGs redeem their problematic portrayal of disability?

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That is actually a pretty solid hook for a low-level campaign: basically the shit a deaf/blind/crippled character will do to not be.

I know there is a whole subset of the deaf community who view deafness as some sort of life calling and look on anyone who tries to get hearing back as some form of race traitor, but I mean the whole point of these games is to things you can't do in real life. I can't imagine being a gimp and wanting to carry that experience forward into fantasy time.
for example, society looks down on you if you murder several of your friends with complicated rube goldberg machines fueled by their own poor choices, so I took up GMing

 

[ZMOT]

That is actually a pretty solid hook for a low-level campaign: basically the shit a deaf/blind/crippled character will do to not be.

I know there is a whole subset of the deaf community who view deafness as some sort of life calling and look on anyone who tries to get hearing back as some form of race traitor, but I mean the whole point of these games is to things you can't do in real life. I can't imagine being a gimp and wanting to carry that experience forward into fantasy time.
for example, society looks down on you if you murder several of your friends with complicated rube goldberg machines fueled by their own poor choices, so I took up GMing

what irks me the most about that whole disabilities shit is that it makes no fucking sense given the setting's logic. considering the technological state and society, a disability would fuck you over hard, unless you stashed away enough money before and/or got someone like family to carry you. any tradesman going blind or crippled is basically already dead.
it's the same retarded notion projecting current year opinions and society back, there's no fucking social security in faerun.

getting rid of a disability is a solid hook, but then how would you go about it? can't really adventure yourself, and if you got the money to have someone look for a cure you're already well off. you could make it a temporary cure needing a refresher or looking for a long-term solution, but in character that would mean no difference so you can't virtue signal with your wheelchair mini.
much easier to just be a blood elf magical drug addict who needs his fix for RP purposes alone.

 

[knightlautrec]

So Sandy Petersen, guy who made CoC and worked on Doom, is getting whined at by mentally ill Twitter users from RPGnet demanding he refund their Kickstarter pledges.

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Good. There's a reason I love CoC and have invested a ton into it. I was pleasantly surprised that their redone supplements for Horror on the Orient Express and Masks weren't pozzed all to high heaven. Even the Harlem one is fairly accurate and goes over the racism of the time but in a frank 'this is how it was' kinda way. It does warn you that the subject matter can be uncomfortable but other than that it didn't seem very SJW. It had an interesting sort of thing where skin colour does play into how NPCs treat you - at a black jazz club my drunken lout Irish cop was denied entry by the bouncer cuz not only did he look like a cop, he was white. And the black dude in our party had zero issue and got all the info first pass. The flip side happened as well towards him with a librarian following him around the library while we were trying to research.

TTRP can be used to explore difficult things but it had to be subtle and its better to experience the issue rather than preach in the book about racism=bad. Show, don't tell. Have the issues played out. CoC and by extension Delta Green is a good vehicle for it too since you can push boundaries pretty far and give your players memorable experiences. I will never forget the actual OOC anger I felt playing Achtung! Cthulhu when the Nazi Commander we tracked down through the dreamland tried to commit suicide to get out of taking responsibility for horrors he'd committed to French children. My French Medic, understandly furious, threw his oath to do no harm unless for the protection of his patient out the window and saved this Nazi's life from a gunshot to the head (I rolled something crazy like 05) only to torture him with a scalpel to tell them where they'd taken the rest of the children. Up until then my medic had tried very hard to stick to his oath and not attack people but this was his moral breaking point. And that moment stuck with me as a player. Which is the point of TTRP imo.

But yeah. Cool. Their choice to not support the dude but Eldritch Horrors don't care about your dumb gender feels. They'll eat you regardless.

 

[Corn Flakes]

getting rid of a disability is a solid hook, but then how would you go about it? can't really adventure yourself, and if you got the money to have someone look for a cure you're already well off. you could make it a temporary cure needing a refresher or looking for a long-term solution, but in character that would mean no difference so you can't virtue signal with your wheelchair mini.
much easier to just be a blood elf magical drug addict who needs his fix for RP purposes alone.

The best way I saw this done was following what my group calls "pulling a Geordi (La Forge)". The character has a disability that's compensated well enough with some permanent or consumable item that they can operate on the same level as a normal character, maybe with a slight bonus. But it's still not fun to have to rely on magical glasses to see, or on a steampunk prosthetic leg to walk, so the character is looking for a way to cure whatever ails them so they don't need the artificial help anymore.

I think the absolute best one around my tables was in a short campaign where one of the characters was a bard who had suffered a very disfiguring injury to his face. Like, Two-Face's movie version levels of disfiguring. I don't remember the exact source, but it was caused by some form of cursed undead, and no one knew how to cure it. It didn't give him any stat penalties by itself, but obviously it did give him disadvantage in Charisma skill checks when people could see his face. So he walked around wearing a Hat of Disguise at all times to bypass that issue and while the hat was incredibly useful through the campaign, his objective was still to get that injury healed and throw that hat away. Why? Because he wanted his infant daughter to be able to look at him without being frightened.

Anyway, that shit can be done very easily. Characters with defects and disabilities can be extremely fun to play. Shit, even just characters with ridiculously low stats can do the job: I have played the INT 6 Barbarian and the STR 6 Wizard before, both were buckets of fun. But when people put the cart before the horse and think that the character is just a vehicle for the disability, it gets fucking stupid. Ask anyone on a wheelchair who hasn't deluded themselves (or settled into a lucrative grift) whether or or they'd like to have full use of their legs, then bitch at them when they say they would love to. See how much they like you then.

 

[Brain Problems]

Characters with defects and disabilities can be extremely fun to play. Shit, even just characters with ridiculously low stats can do the job: I have played the INT 6 Barbarian and the STR 6 Wizard before, both were buckets of fun. But when people put the cart before the horse and think that the character is just a vehicle for the disability, it gets fucking stupid. Ask anyone on a wheelchair who hasn't deluded themselves (or settled into a lucrative grift) whether or or they'd like to have full use of their legs, then bitch at them when they say they would love to. See how much they like you then.

Anyone can play any interesting character creatively if they actually want to and aren't just using the session as a vehicle for virtue signaling. Nobody gave a shit about the wheelchair or anything else until WOTC came in and tried to force players to "build the accessibility ramp, bigot."

 

[MembersSchoolPizza]

So, I've been pretty solidly a Fantasy and Sci-Fi gamer all my life. I find myself, strangely, with the urge to run a supers game.

Does anyone have a pulse on what's good right now for Supers systems? That isn't FATE, because fuck most FATE games, and isn't D20 based, because fuck D20 as a system in general?

I'd like something that supports making characters that range in power from street-level to more conventional capes. Not the high end of the MCU so much, though. No pan-dimensional god-beings and shit. Preferably a system that has a way for characters of various power levels to be together without making it completely stupid. Ironically, the one FATE implementation I've ever liked, the original version of The Dresden Files, had a pretty good mechanic for that... But I just don't wanna do FATE.

 

[40 Year Old Boomer]

But when people put the cart before the horse and think that the character is just a vehicle for the disability, it gets fucking stupid. Ask anyone on a wheelchair who hasn't deluded themselves (or settled into a lucrative grift) whether or or they'd like to have full use of their legs, then bitch at them when they say they would love to. See how much they like you then.

Going to TMI for a bit here, but being in a wheelchair fucking sucked and seeing this combat wheelchair get pushed by these effete fucking faggots pisses me off. All I wanted to do while I was stuck in that damn thing was walk. And I'm damn lucky because I was eventually able to reach a point where I could use a walker, then a cane. My leg will always be in some constant state of discomfort at best and pain at worst. I can always tell when it's going to rain because it hurts like a motherfucker. Abrupt changes in temperature do the same. Why anybody would think something like this is conducive to adventuring is beyond me. Like, maybe a wizard or something could fire off spells from a wheelchair but you aren't going to be able to fight effectively. Swinging a sword is more than just your arm, it also involves footwork and balance. Fucking retards.

 

[Ghostse]

I'd like something that supports making characters that range in power from street-level to more conventional capes. Not the high end of the MCU so much, though. No pan-dimensional god-beings and shit. Preferably a system that has a way for characters of various power levels to be together without making it completely stupid. Ironically, the one FATE implementation I've ever liked, the original version of The Dresden Files, had a pretty good mechanic for that... But I just don't wanna do FATE.

I have never run it, but I recall people flogging their caped crusaders over Mutants and Masterminds.