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Maybe in his mind crime is when someone is getting hurt, but he thought that Barb wanted it after all. No one is hurt - no crime then. Hell, this is exactly why he was defending mother and son who were charged for incest back in the day - "if both parties are consenting, then what's the problem".
Yep that’s precisely why he thought it wasn’t illegal. The fact his recent court appearance has him whining over his toys, it just drives home he can’t comprehend he did anything wrong
 
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If he ever gets out of prison or an institution it's pretty obvious that he needs a caretaker, appointed by the state or someone, who will place him in a structured environment away from vulnerable people, get him a job hauling shit in a warehouse, and manage his finances. He needs strict limits on how much plastic garbage he keeps around him and how much he spends on it. Selling off any games, toys, etc of value beyond the minimum he will be able to keep to start establishing a fund for his release should be part of it. Hoarding is about 17th on the list of his problems right now but it will need to be addressed if he's going to re-enter society.

Chris cannot hold a job. There was legit a point in time where people were offering to pay him decent sums for signed merchandise or customized drawings and he simply could not be assed to bother. People would repeatedly report that the few people who got their orders fulfilled received their merchandise in busted up boxes, with the actual product falling apart or damaged.

The world could offer to pay him to do something he loves and he would still not do it. If anyone tried to get him a job hauling boxes in a warehouse, he'd last a bit before succumbing to tard rage and getting fired.

Best case scenario for him (aka what he'd enjoy) is being put in some special needs home that has LEGOs or a video game console. The moment he's given any task with a failure state though: a job, probation, bail, not raping his mom...he's going to fail and he's going to end up in jail.

Tbh even the special needs home is questionable. Could 100% picture him ending up in such a home and then ended up in the news again for trying to molest a caretaker. The man is just royally fucked and the only card in his favor is that his autism could provoke pity and patience.
 
He needs to spend 5 years with a prison therapist who makes him understand that if he doesn't show up to his box-moving job and behave himself, he's going back to prison. Like everyone else I have little faith either in the ability of the best mental health professionals in the world to get through to Chris, or in the state to set him up with this sort of treatment as opposed to just warehousing him until the sentence is up.
 
We've been over this. Loli is "genuine CP" as far as the law is concerned. If someone finds it and wants to jam him up for it they will. Obscene pictures of little girls are obscene whether they're real or just drawings. 18 USC 1466A(b).
"Your honour, she's actually a Sonichu so technically human ages can't be applied to her"
 
Yep that’s precisely why he thought it wasn’t illegal. The fact his recent court appearance has him whining over his toys, it just drives home he can’t comprehend he did anything wrong
He tweeted about an incest case a while ago, saying he didn't see what they did was wrong, as long as both parties were consenting. I take that to mean that he knows that, legally, incest is a punishable offense. Even if he didn't agree with it, he seemed to have an understanding of "society says this is wrong, people get in trouble for it". He was vague to Null in his messages, he was trying to cover his tracks. People have pointed out to him in the past that incest in wrong/illegal. I find it very hard to believe that he, at the very least, didn't know that having sexual relations with someone you're related to is morally wrong, as well as illegal in many states. Chris has proven time and again that he understand that certain things aren't okay, but he ignores them because it goes against what he wants.

Chris also has messed up priorities. He may whine over toys in court, but that's because that's what is most important to him. Not keeping his house, not having food, not being able to pay the bills, not getting medicine for his mother, Chris' own wants and needs supersede anything else to him. It doesn't prove that his isn't incompetent, only that he's extremely selfish/narcissistic. Plenty of competent people obsess over stupid little things and details when there are bigger issues to deal with, especially if it's something they don't want to be brought up or something they want to hide.

Again, none of us are in the room with Chris, we're all just speculating based on what we know from the past. We can make assumptions. We can argue our points and opinions. But until we get some information regarding his competency/psychological evaluation, that's all we can do.
 
Like Chris makes sure not to do illegal things if he is aware it gets him in trouble [...] If Chris had been told that fucking his mom could put him in prison and ban him from conventions and the like, he wouldn’t have done it.
He makes sure not to do illegal things, now does he?

Like not violating the rules in his college by repeatedly using attraction signs on campus, violating various store bans, court orders and restraining orders to keep away from certain people and places, literally assaulted a gamestop employee with pepper spray after vandalizing their wares several times... just to name a few.

Dude has a rep-sheet a mile long from violations of rules and laws. He made an entire comic about how laws and rules are made specifically to hold him down, keep true love away from him and how he heroically overcomes these unfair and unjust limitations to his personal freedom.

Chris never gave a shit about the rules and only started respecting some of them once he burned his hands one too many times and got his shit kicked in by the authorities.
And then he only reluctantly and begrudgingly accepted those rules as limitations but still tried to skirt around them here and there.

In his understanding, laws and rules exist only to keep things away from him that he wants, therefore they are bad and therefore he can ignore them. It's literally that simple. He treats rules like a mopey, pouty child, but he still knows that certain things are not allowed. At best, he thinks laws and rules don't apply to him, more so considering that he thinks of himself as a literal goddess now.

"But wait", I hear you say, "he just didn't know that incest is illegal..."
Bull. Fucking. Shit.
He commented on a mother-son couple being arrested for incest years ago and argued how unjust it is, since incest is only bad when it creates offspring.

He knows it's illegal. He knows it's disgusting to other people. He still did it. He just didn't care, cause laws don't apply to him, especially when it's about something that he feels entitled to and when he considers the laws to be in the way of his fun.

Edit: And just for completeness sake: Just check out his attitude towards incest beforee that post from 2016. Just sayin'.
 
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He makes sure not to do illegal things, now does he?

Like not violating the rules in his college by repeatedly using attraction signs on campus, violating various store bans, court orders and restraining orders to keep away from certain people and places, literally assaulted a gamestop employee with pepper spray after vandalizing their wares several times... just to name a few.

Dude has a rep-sheet a mile long from violations of rules and laws. He made an entire comic about how laws and rules are made specifically to hold him down, keep true love away from him and how he heroically overcomes these unfair and unjust limitations to his personal freedom.

Chris never gave a shit about the rules and only started respecting some of them once he burned his hands one too many times and got his shit kicked in by the authorities.
And then he only reluctantly and begrudgingly accepted those rules as limitations but still tried to skirt around them here and there.

In his understanding, laws and rules exist only to keep things away from him that he wants, therefore they are bad and therefore he can ignore them. It's literally that simple. He treats rules like a mopey, pouty child, but he still knows that certain things are not allowed. At best, he thinks laws and rules don't apply to him, more so considering that he thinks of himself as a literal goddess now.

"But wait", I hear you say, "he just didn't know that incest is illegal..."
Bull. Fucking. Shit.
He commented on a mother-son couple being arrested for incest years ago and argued how unjust it is, since incest is only bad when it creates offspring.

He knows it's illegal. He knows it's disgusting to other people. He still did it. He just didn't care, cause laws don't apply to him, especially when it's about something that he feels entitled to and when he considers the laws to be in the way of his fun.
Okay that makes more sense. I have issue with people who think Chris has the same understanding of the law like a normal adult. His view of the law is extremely childish and thinks he is in the right all the time. If he hurts anyone it’s not his fault but someone else’s. If he gets in prison he’ll blame the person who leaked the message rather than himself since he is a narcissist
 
Okay that makes more sense. I have issue with people who think Chris has the same understanding of the law like a normal adult. His view of the law is extremely childish and thinks he is in the right all the time. If he hurts anyone it’s not his fault but someone else’s. If he gets in prison he’ll blame the person who leaked the message rather than himself since he is a narcissist
Absolutely. He knows what's right and wrong and he knows what's legal and illegal. It's just that his personal needs and wishes supercede every notion of right, wrong, legal and illegal, cause he doesn't care about any of that as long as he feels good about whatever he's doing.

Sad to say, but that's what Barb has ingrained in his head throughout the decades and it's nothing short of diabolical irony that it would lead to this moment.
Chris was a mollycoddled, spoiled child that never learned to take "no" for an answer when he wanted something.

He is used to slaps on the wrist, and moreover he has never to my knowledge been explained to that his behavior around women can be creepy.
That first part is what I think, too. He thinks he'll just get a stern talking to by the judge and then he can go back to his Legos in between bouts of using his Barb fleshlight.
But that last part... I am quite certain that a couple of people would tell him that he was being a creep towards girls.

He needs to spend 5 years with a prison therapist
Yes.
 
He knows it's illegal. He knows it's disgusting to other people. He still did it. He just didn't care, cause laws don't apply to him, especially when it's about something that he feels entitled to and when he considers the laws to be in the way of his fun.
Yeah, there is a very strong case that Chris sees himself as above rules and laws because he is a narcissist, not because he is ignorant. His case is a hard one to figure out because I can't really tell if his sociopathic tendencies are autism that was never put in check, or if he is genuinely a sociopath. I have known autistic people who certainly show the same traits in terms of being self-focused and mostly assessing things from their own perspective, but Chris has a degree of cunning to his manipulations that I think is more sinister.
 
Chris also has messed up priorities. He may whine over toys in court, but that's because that's what is most important to him. Not keeping his house, not having food, not being able to pay the bills, not getting medicine for his mother, Chris' own wants and needs supersede anything else to him. It doesn't prove that his isn't incompetent, only that he's extremely selfish/narcissistic. Plenty of competent people obsess over stupid little things and details when there are bigger issues to deal with, especially if it's something they don't want to be brought up or something they want to hide.
Chris has seen a low balance in his bank account and his family has lived largely off tugboats at periods, but has he ever been confronted with really not knowing where his next meal is coming from? There's a reason that even people from well-off families are generally expected to go live on their own on a budget in college or when they are just starting out as adults. One of the ways that people living at home late in life fucks them up is they never grasp on the subconscious level that it's possible to run out of resources and really need to worry about basic necessities. For most of us that never goes deeper then our first age-21 experience of "oh man, I better buy a box of pasta with pocket change and make it last until payday, because having to call my family for help or go to a food bank is a fucking humiliation that I'd never subject myself to unless I was literally going to starve to death" but Chris, who has neither shame nor a record of being expected to support himself, has never learned that lesson and still thinks he can spend all his money on bullshit without consequences.
 
He is used to slaps on the wrist, and moreover he has never to my knowledge been explained to that his behavior around women can be creepy.
Actually, he was. Megan told him not to touch her and that chick that was stolen by a Man in a Pickle Suit told him that too. Didn't change much since he tried that with Kacey afterwards.
 
Honestly can people stop calling chris a "she"? he isnt one, he was trolled into being trans so he can get into lesbians pants, it's all for predatory intent. Misgendering him isn't even bad because he isn't a woman and never will be and doesnt even experience gender dysphoria. However, trans people who are truly trans should be respected, chris isn't anywhere near trans at all, just because he mutilated his dick and slapped on some hair dye and a bra on his man moobs doesn't mean anything, he's a predator, and what he has done to barb is a clear sign that he is indeed one. Again call trans people who are trans by their prefered pronouns, but don't dare call chris a woman, it's just feeding into the idea that what he has done is right, which it isn't. Makes sense right?
 
Actually, he was. Megan told him not to touch her and that chick that was stolen by a Man in a Pickle Suit told him that too. Didn't change much since he tried that with Kacey afterwards.
Did he ever understand why though? Often if you tell an autist not to do something they don't really have the social comprehension or empathic ability to know why you don't want them to do it. Usually you have to explain it to them periodically because they just do not retain the info and don't intuitively know to stop. But if Chris had been getting that reinforcement earlier on and more comprehensively (beyond just "don't do that" a few times) he might have at least been trained away from being that way. He might have still needed to be reminded sometimes, but at least he might not be as much like a caveman who has no concept of etiquette at all.
 
Did he ever understand why though?
Eh, there are so many things in Chris's life that can be asked about. It's already been said - Chris is a spoiled child and he'd always wanted things to be his way. No amount of "don't" would teach him otherwise.
 
Eh, there are so many things in Chris's life that can be asked about. It's already been said - Chris is a spoiled child and he'd always wanted things to be his way. No amount of "don't" would teach him otherwise.
That's fair. Autism isn't his only problem, after all, so trying to address his issues as if it was probably wouldn't have helped.
 
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Yes, you are definitely right about his consciousness of guilt. I guess for me the better question would not be "did he know it was wrong" so much as "did he know how incredibly serious it is". He is used to slaps on the wrist, and moreover he has never to my knowledge been explained to that his behavior around women can be creepy. Since boundaries were never ingrained in him I imagine he thinks little of breaching those boundaries further and further over the years. Combined with his coomer tendencies and his description of raping his elderly mom as "something out of an anime or fanfiction", he seems to think that because incest is fetishized by some that doing it in real life isn't a serious problem. And we already know the line between fiction and reality doesn't exist for him.

Ultimately I think that while he knew he would come under scrutiny, I bet it did not cross his mind how much trouble it could get him in. Or he wouldn't have shared it with multiple people... or with anyone for that matter.
What you are hitting on is one of the most complicated aspects of this case "did he know how bad it was?".

One could answer by this age he should, in fact you can tell he knew somewhat how bad it was to commit such an act, but what you are missing is that Chris usually holds very one note definitions of things. To him rape is ONLY sexual assault, violent and with one party crying and begging to the other to stop, I dont think he considered this rape, I think he truly thought it was ok because she gave him """"consent""". (Which given that she has dementia doesnt mean much)

Another answer could be that he truly thinks himself as above the law, above what you and I perceive as too far, as you said he is used to wrist slaps, so whats one more? I know we state he could never kill someone, but I think with his mindset and how he has been raised he probably thinks he could have gotten away with it, its not something that is out of left field with him given his angry and violent tendencies. Remember in his mind he truly believes himself to be the hero, all the Sonichu comics and fan fics he wrote where he wins, he truly believes that because he was raised to think he was that. This comes down to a theory I have had for years about "main character disorder" but, with Chris he's gone beyond that into a legit delusion.


Or he could just be a fucking retard who knows?
 
Honestly can people stop calling chris a "she"? he isnt one, he was trolled into being trans so he can get into lesbians pants, it's all for predatory intent. Misgendering him isn't even bad because he isn't a woman and never will be and doesnt even experience gender dysphoria. However, trans people who are truly trans should be respected, chris isn't anywhere near trans at all, just because he mutilated his dick and slapped on some hair dye and a bra on his man moobs doesn't mean anything, he's a predator, and what he has done to barb is a clear sign that he is indeed one. Again call trans people who are trans by their prefered pronouns, but don't dare call chris a woman, it's just feeding into the idea that what he has done is right, which it isn't. Makes sense right?
I like to call Chris a she because it means I can shit on women and trannys at the same time.

Kinda like why I'm fully supportive of tranny athletes.
 
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