Clayton Ray Huff / Dream / DreamOnPvP / DreamTraps / DreamAF / DreamXD / DeltaKnight / DreamSkilful / Clayman23 - Fat Minecraft Youtuber with fans that want to torture and rape him and are in denial that he's fat.

Is JacobTMK the Fatman?

  • Yes! It's a deadringer!

    Votes: 305 13.2%
  • No! That's Dream!

    Votes: 1,713 74.1%
  • It's neither of them!

    Votes: 295 12.8%

  • Total voters
    2,313
As far as my experience goes, George stans are honestly worse than dream ones. Ofc there’s overlap however.

As far as MCM, I think dream and others definetly faked view counts, and MCM was notoriously ill managed from what I know. In fact all of these competitions are, because every MCC ends in some fight about glitches or cheating. At least recently. No one cared but when it came back it people got MAD every event.
 
Sorry for the delay everyone! Without further ado, I've currently gone through ten videos and will add more in edits, as I need to recover from the Dream Shorts videos, all archived and with relevant timestamps! This also inevitably served as a commentary on how lazy Dream shorts is, both from an editing perspective, and how shit the content is.

Also, Dream, if you're reading, please firesale him.
Video 1: "Minecraft Tattoo..." Uploaded by: Dream Shorts.
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- The only editing done is cutting between two clips at 0:23, adding one sound effect (surprisingly not out of sync) at 0:20, and changing the music track twice, change occuring at 0:23, fatass could have done this himself. Otherwise there are no significant editing mistakes.
Verdict: Not too awful, but fatass could have done this in 2 minutes, therefore, fat fuck is lazy.
It would've been faster too, unless Firesale receives these in bulk drops of like 20.

Video 2: "Science Lab Partner..." Uploaded by: Dream Shorts.

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- Not an editing mistake but I hate the stupid voice Sapnap does starting at 0:10 to the end of the video.
- Also, where's the fucking joke?
- Only one music track in the video, no real editing done.
Verdict: Awful, but not on Firesale's part, but fatass could have done this in 2 minutes, therefore, fat fuck is lazy.

Video 3: "The Greatest Pirate I've Ever Seen..." Uploaded by: Dream Shorts.

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- I hate the fucking pirate voices
- The only editing is once again, a single music track and cutting to another perspective at 0:22. I am still betting Dream is overpaying.
Verdict: Awful, but not on Firesale's part, but fatass could have done this in 2 minutes, therefore, fat fuck is lazy. Are you starting to notice a pattern?

Video 4: "Are You Smarter Than A Sapnap?" Uploaded by: Dream Shorts.

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- Woah! A new editing trick! Firesale learned how to fucking make the video zoom! Surprisingly didn't fuck this one up.
- Then again, it's extremely overused, the video practically zooms and/or pans after every single cut, it's making me a bit motion sick.
- I wish Firesale would quiet down Dream's gaggle yelling so much instead of focusing on the zooming, it's making my ears bleed. 1:15 actually gave me a fucking headache.
- 1:21, we see our first zoom out. Wow. So much effort being put into this editing, clearly firesale is being underpaid.
- 1:38 also made my head hurt. I should not have my head be hurting because firesale can't lower Sapnap's fucking audio levels.
Verdict: This video is fucking horrendous cancer and I hate Sapnap. Firesale has demonstrated a bit more editing here, but is putting his already minimal effort into repetetive effects that give motion sickness instead of the places that need it (lowering Sapnap's volume).

Video 5: "BaldBoyHalo" Uploaded by: Dream Shorts.

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- Practically no editing at the start.
- This video is actually part of Firesale's editing reel, which means I am going to be particularly harsh on it.
- At 0:21 the video starts rotating, Firesale surprisingly did not fuck this up, but it abruptly cuts to a different rotate and zoom out at 0:31, which really disoriented me. Normally this wouldn't be too bad (besides the fact that it disoriented me a bit), but Firesale seems to have a habit of overusing simple affects in an attempt to appear to Dream like he's actually doing something, when in reality something like this takes 2 seconds to do.
- 0:34 and beyond is fucking cancer, would it have killed Firesale to fucking lower these guy's audio? At least when other youtubers do "scream = funny hahaha" they have the decency to lower it a bit.
Verdict: This video is fucking horrendous cancer, just like the smarter than a Sapnap one. Firesale's overuse of effects is disorienting and already made me nauseous with the smarter than a Sapnap video, and Dream and Bad's yelling didn't particularly help either.

Video 6: "Tubbo is UNHINGED" Uploaded by: Sneegsnag.
Finally, a longer video to dig into.

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- I actually have no qualms with the beginning twitch plug, it's short, simple, didn't blow my ears out, didn't make me motion sick, or anything like that. But it's not particularly impressive either, you have to remember that Firesale keeps boasting about his "8 years of experience" after all. An editor with a week of experience, maybe less could pull that off just as well.
- That transition is part of his streaming setup I presume, since it was tied to him switching screens, don't be fooled into thinking Firesale put more work into this than he did.
- What is with the watermark? Is that part of his stream setup or did Firesale put that in? This isn't a point against the content itself besides that it's stupid. Why does his gameplay need a watermark? He's already got his facecam, twitch chat, and you can see his minecraft character's hand.
- Can whoever keeps going "MEEHHHH!" shut the fuck up?
- The outro is just a fade in with music.
- All of the editing that stuck out to me besides the previously mentioned is just hyperactive cuts, as if Firesale (Or Sneeg if he mandated that) thinks the viewer has the attention span of a goldfish. If I missed anything it was because I was bored out of my mind.
Verdict: Boring, minimal editing. Where the hell is that 8 years of experience? The video just consists of Sneeg doing shit in the nether while people more entertaining than him talk to him.

Video 7: "World Record Weight Lifting" Uploaded by: Dream Shorts.

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- Firesale overuses the zoom in and zoom out again.
- The only other editing is inserting a sound effect.
Verdict: Very little editing, but made in an attempt to look like he's doing more than he is. 8 years of experience my fucking ass.

Video 8: "Wilbur Soot Hits A Spectral Nae Nae" Uploaded by: Sneegsnag.

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- Oh shit, another editing reel video!
- As I said before about this part (0:00) in the editing reel, the only real editing here is adding undertale sound effects that surprisingly aren't out of sync like the burger in the editing reel was.
- Okay, so the twitch plug is here too (0:51), which means it probably was given to Firesale to put in every video, meaning he probably didn't even create it, there goes that one compliment out of the window.
- Once again very minimal editing, what about this was so impressive as to put in his editing reel?
Verdict: How many times can I repeat "minimal editing" without coming off as uninspired as Firesale.
... Then again maybe that's all he deserves.

Video 9: "Anyone know Candice?" Uploaded by: Sneegsnag.

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- Same shill segment as last time.
- Same twitch shill as last time as well.
- Once again...... Uh.... Minor adapting.
Verdict: Um... Where are those 8 years of experience?

Video 10: "Dream Let Down Your Hair..." Uploaded by: Dream Shorts

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- The hit sounds at 0:27 and 0: are very slightly off sync from when Dream places the water. Otherwise this video has literally no editing.
Verdict: I literally have nothing to say about this video, besides that I still hate Dream Shorts.

Intermission:

Okay, so we're ten videos through, and all we've seen is extremely minimal editing from Firesale, so far I see no reason as to why he should be paid more, and in fact I argue he should be paid literal cents for this shit. Maybe a dollar or two if we're generous, becuase Dream and Sneeg could've edited these themselves and it would've probably had more editing.

For all Firesale whines about being "underpaid" for his supposed 8 years of experience, he isn't doing very much to show off his eight years of experience. Again, Dream, if you're reading this, I recommend either learning to edit these yourself (it's not that hard what Firesale is doing), or hiring an assistant that does more than editing so at least you're paying for more than basic bitch week in premiere editing.

to be continued next edit.

BONUS VIDEO (For now, this is the 13th video in the list) : "PARKOUR!" Uploaded by: Dream Shorts.
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So why did I add this as a bonus video? The editing is rather mediocre after all.

Simple, I noticed Firesale took an effect that the creator wanted to be credited when used. Personally I don't give much of a shit about this, but considering how much Dream hammers on and on about how he loves giving credit, this is very funny.

So in the video, you'll notice the shit like "Good!" "Great!" etc. right? Well these are actually taken from a video that recreated these effects from the "Mario and Luigi" games by Nintendo.
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I look forward to Dream scrambling to update the description before Twitter finds out.
Holy fuck, this is insanely in-depth. I take it you have some editing experience?
 
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New 25 million subs merch.

It looks like shit, especially the back.
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Having seen the designs for other Dream hoodies, this one doesn’t seem that bad? Kinda vague though, is it Dream, or is it a monster? That being said, I had no idea how it related to the 25 mil milestone just by looking at it… Dream did explain it on a stream though, saying each eye is an X and the tongue is a V, so XXV = 25.

The coin on the other hand… let’s be real though, the image looks like Dream’s dead head decapitated by a spaghetti noodle.
 
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I got the info about Capt.Puffy on Twitter and honestly, there was a lot of shippers actually pissed at Minx for bringing up DNF and claiming she “never saw a gay couple before” and a bunch of weird things like that, as well as constantly telling her to “shut up” and “stop talking over Dream and George.” this wasn’t on the stream, this was more of the Twitter base, but she got trending because of how many people were just bashing her repeatedly for being on a stream with her friend.
It’s nothing new when it comes to Minx as she can’t even interact with George without stans absolutely flipping their shit at her which she mentioned in a stream, this was a few months ago so I don’t know if an archive exists, I can check later on YouTube and post what I find if it’s still relevant to the thread.,that it sucked because her and George are friends.
(Side note about Minx and George, back in mid 2020, Minx won George’s Love Or Host which was positively received by Twitter Stans, and now she can’t interact with him without some variation of “GET BEHIND ME GOGY” being flooded in her quote retweets and death threats. Absolutely insane how quickly the fandom quickly spiraled into more and more insanity.)

It was also a few shippers who were bringing up how Dream and George were responding to questions and saying that, namely Dream, kept pausing and stammering when answering. Granted, I haven’t seen them interact outside of Dream demanding George say “I love you” so I figured if the stans were bringing it up, then it must be something different.

Good news about Captain Puffy’s stream tho, she has a lot of overlaps with Dream’s fanbase due to her being on the DSMP, plus almost any moment that Dream is on a stream will get snatched up by clip channels with very telling titles, so the stream is more than likely to be archived by a bunch of kids on YouTube.
Lmao i saw that live, I have been around and looking before this thread even got started.

Honestly I hate that content creators in general can’t interact with content creators of the opposite gender without getting both “fan bases” panties on a twist.

Also people loved minx in that LoH but after how she left the post stream a lot of the tweens that follow George went rabid because of “how she behaved” and that “her spitting on him was violent” let me remind everyone this was Minecraft roleplay

I was just commenting on the statement that Dream wouldn’t commit fully to the “dnf” thing, while I just pointed out that the fact that more people (and lgbt people) were present didn’t change much of their behavior. And also that the people who they are pandering to were pretty satisfied by it.

I actually don’t remember if I said anything more, I don’t want to go back and become nitpicky as that was what I wanted to say when I posted that

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This is legit stuff you’d find at a hot topic, but worse looking. It’s the “goth e-whore” style, but the discount version because it’s seriously so bland and uninspired? You can find clothes like this anywhere, it just doesn’t stand out.
And it’s honestly a shame that this is the most creative merch that Clay has. It’s honestly kind of embarrassing all things considered.
 
Kinda weird how much weight Sapnap is losing in such a short span of time. What the fuck is he doing?
Sapnap's miracle weight loss feels like solid enough proof that maybe Dream isn't fat anymore.

This is legit stuff you’d find at a hot topic, but worse looking. It’s the “goth e-whore” style, but the discount version because it’s seriously so bland and uninspired? You can find clothes like this anywhere, it just doesn’t stand out.
And it’s honestly a shame that this is the most creative merch that Clay has. It’s honestly kind of embarrassing all things considered.
One of the things Dream has said a few times is he likes doing merch that isn't just a billboard his youtube channel. Which I can kinda respect, since it's a step up from other youtubers at his size who will just cobble together a design highlighting their name and slap it onto as many articles of clothing as possible.

The other problem is Dream has reached out to artists to design his merch before. I mean the manhunt axe shirt was probably one of the most well-received designs in the history of his merch store, even by people who didn't like him. The it came out that the artist just bought an existing vector and gave it to Dream with minor modifications.

I can kinda understand why the guy would be afraid to reach out for more complex and interesting work if that was his first experience doing so.
 
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