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He says idea came to him from Tigerstar.

Entire thing sounds like Reddit Leftist fantasy/alt history.

In Italy in 1948 socialist coalition lead by Commies wins election.
CIA does a thing and like 60% of Italian territory breaks away peacefuly And creates west alligned south.
South becomes failed Mafia run state while USA doesnt care anymore and rest of Western Europe doesnt exist.

North refuses to bend over to massa Stalin . And creates successful Commie regime. While being isolated.
Because they owned most of Italian industry , because Commies didnt fuck up industrialized country before.... Cough North Korea cough Czechoslovakia.

North in 1980/90 transforms into democratic socialist state unites Italy and legitimizes Communism as viable ideology.
Lol
I can smell the fucking Reddit circle jerking in this one. And the fact Tigerstar is involved even a bit red flag of that. Considering how Tigerstar has grifted more and more to the Reddit left in recent years.
 

Masaman talks about the history of race, and ethnicity in a way that gets him blacklisted by Historytube and most History subreddits.

Most of the time Cody doesn't seem to do much research into the subjects he talks about. I also noticed how Cody Franklin (AHH) doesn't seem to have much of a backbone and let's his friends have influence over his world views. I still like the guy but he needs to pull himself together.


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Cody is in an interesting position.
 
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Masaman talks about the history of race, and ethnicity in a way that gets him blacklisted by Historytube and most History subreddits.


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Cody is in an interesting position.
Masaman is pretty great guy, I remember when he made an accurate ethnic map of the world when no one else wanted to. But why would they hate him? He is a mixed race guy that doesn't seem to hate anyone.

Is Cody starting to realize how fucked in the head his group of online friends really are?
 
Masaman is pretty great guy, I remember when he made an accurate ethnic map of the world when no one else wanted to. But why would they hate him? He is a mixed race guy that doesn't seem to hate anyone.

Is Cody starting to realize how fucked in the head his group of online friends really are?
A fun tidbit about Masa, way back when there were right wing channels (I don't mean kosher right or lolbert stuff like Sargon) you could find him in comment sections talking about race and migration and stuff. He's not a Neo-Nazi or anything but definitely is/was pretty right wing.
 
A fun tidbit about Masa, way back when there were right wing channels (I don't mean kosher right or lolbert stuff like Sargon) you could find him in comment sections talking about race and migration and stuff. He's not a Neo-Nazi or anything but definitely is/was pretty right wing.
They literally consider Sargon a Nazi so he'd be wise to downplay that if ever wanted to fit in with the clique.
 
They literally consider Sargon a Nazi so he'd be wise to downplay that if ever wanted to fit in with the clique.
He downplayed it years back by hiding or removing his subscriptions to various channels. You could probably dig up comments on any surviving "Far right neo nazi Buzzword" channels that survive in 2021 YouTube but I wouldn't bother.
 
TIK is an autistic fuck who is so lolbert he tries to paint Hitler as a socialist because well… lolbert. It’s kind of amazing how well he nails the Soviet situation but completely misses the mark on how the politics of the Third Reich worked. It’s sort of like the people who try and paint the gulags as akin to the nazi extermination camps. Like, yeah, a lot of people died in the gulags, but plenty more made it out because they were primarily prisons. Horrific prisons, but prisons. Meanwhile the extermination camps burned through 6 to 12 million in a few years. Both are horrible but ones on another measure of sheer horror.

As for a socialist/communist northern Italy, people forget that northern Italy was always the richer more industrial part of Italy, and pretty intact after the war. It was where various leftist movements were the strongest, not the southern parts. Comparing them to North Korea is a bit disingenuous, as Italy was light years ahead of Korea when it came to industrialization. It’s still a wank history but it’s not as completely divorced from reality as some.
 
Like, yeah, a lot of people died in the gulags, but plenty more made it out because they were primarily prisons. Horrific prisons, but prisons. Meanwhile the extermination camps burned through 6 to 12 million in a few years. Both are horrible but ones on another measure of sheer horror.
I mean yeah, no shit. Extermination camps were for extermination, gulags were for holding prisoners the Soviets didn't like having around but couldn't just outright kill (and they outright killed many people). But arguing over which ones were worse is the argumentative equivalent of arguing over where to put these chairs on the Titanic. And the Soviets still intentionally killed tens of millions of people, especially in the Holodomor, which was pretty much a genocide, despite what some people think, shown by how Soviet proxies and catspaws went out of their way to hide what was going on at the time. Its like saying Mao wasn't as bad as he mainly killed people through the sheer incompetence of his policies, though its a moot point since the man killed at least 50 million of his own people, more than Hitler and Stalin combined.

It’s kind of amazing how well he nails the Soviet situation but completely misses the mark on how the politics of the Third Reich worked.
Not sure how he "misses the mark". His explanations of the all encompassing nature of Nazi economic policy was pretty spot on to me. He paints Hitler as a socialist because that's what he was, in both his own words, his ideology and how he saw the world, and in his actual economic policies once they were implemented. He definitely wasn't a capitalist as modern socialists like to claim, as he hated the capitalist class and saw capitalism as a Jewish plot to undermine civilization. Keep in mind, these same socialists claim the Soviet Union isn't a "true socialist" country and that "true socialism" hasn't been tried yet. It has been tried, numerous times, and each time anyone attempted to implement it, it led to a hellhole. At this point, if "true socialism" hasn't been reached, it isn't for lack of trying, and with a 0% success rate, I'd say that anyone with half a brain would write the idea off as broken from the start.
 
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Yeah, I think we should be really careful about repeating the historical fallacy of boomers where the economic beliefs of both the extreme right and extreme left is complete state control. Rather than admitting that the left-right dichotomy is flawed, and admitting that the soviets and national socialists were inspired by the same economic principles and based their system on the same foundation. Both the soviets and the national socialists used the war socialism of WWI germany as the inspiration for their planned economy.
 
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Masaman talks about the history of race, and ethnicity in a way that gets him blacklisted by Historytube and most History subreddits.
Masaman is pretty great guy, I remember when he made an accurate ethnic map of the world when no one else wanted to. But why would they hate him? He is a mixed race guy that doesn't seem to hate anyone.

Is Cody starting to realize how fucked in the head his group of online friends really are?
Masaman is fucking weird and it's strange he has so many subscribers.

He treats "race" like it's the Silmarillion. It's really good schizo bait.
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Cody is in an interesting position.
Cody let out some more tweets that can give us more insight in his politics. I don't think he's a Commie due to his support of ArmchairHistory when tankies went after him for not praising North Korea but he is clearly slipping more to the left, probably in the Christian Socialism sect.
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He also called Afghanistan a puppet government, which regardless of your feelings towards the situation, I think that remark combined with the screencap above points to a more left-leaning view on contemporary politics.
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Of course, could be wrong and he's not that sincere but I can't shake the feeling with that recent video he put that he's sliding more under Tigerstar and CynicalHistorian's political influence.
 
Cody let out some more tweets that can give us more insight in his politics. I don't think he's a Commie due to his support of ArmchairHistory when tankies went after him for not praising North Korea but he is clearly slipping more to the left, probably in the Christian Socialism sect.
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He also called Afghanistan a puppet government, which regardless of your feelings towards the situation, I think that remark combined with the screencap above points to a more left-leaning view on contemporary politics.
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Of course, could be wrong and he's not that sincere but I can't shake the feeling with that recent video he put that he's sliding more under Tigerstar and CynicalHistorian's political influence.
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these alt hist retards really think paradox games are reality lol
 

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If you oppose Critical Race Theory you're basically a Lost Causer.

Yeah, I think we should be really careful about repeating the historical fallacy of boomers where the economic beliefs of both the extreme right and extreme left is complete state control. Rather than admitting that the left-right dichotomy is flawed, and admitting that the soviets and national socialists were inspired by the same economic principles and based their system on the same foundation. Both the soviets and the national socialists used the war socialism of WWI germany as the inspiration for their planned economy.
Anyone who doesn't think Nazi Germany had a socialist structure is a tard. Please go read "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich". Great book, and be sure to bring it to work and show off the cover.
TIK is an autistic fuck who is so lolbert he tries to paint Hitler as a socialist because well… lolbert. It’s kind of amazing how well he nails the Soviet situation but completely misses the mark on how the politics of the Third Reich worked. It’s sort of like the people who try and paint the gulags as akin to the nazi extermination camps. Like, yeah, a lot of people died in the gulags, but plenty more made it out because they were primarily prisons. Horrific prisons, but prisons. Meanwhile the extermination camps burned through 6 to 12 million in a few years. Both are horrible but ones on another measure of sheer horror.

They didn't have a socialist economy. They had a corporatist-like economy that would do anything to better equip the country for war.

Nazi economics was schizophrenic, but had one goal. Hitler was backed by major military industrialists during his political campaigns, and despite his socialistic rhetoric spent the entirety of the early 1930s following a program of mass privatization. The Nazis believed in markets, and private ownership of capital to such a degree that it continued right till the end of the war. Hitler created socialistic programs like the Volkswagen (People's Car), and utopian work programs like Strength Through Joy. However, the utopian socialistic conditions of Strength through Joy were to bind people to their employers and keep employees happy (strikes were banned) and the cars were designed for military specifications and seized when the broke out. He embraced planned economics for his war industry, but it was still private industry doing all of the work. Nazi economics was all over the place, and that isn't even mentioning insane stuff like their rejection of mass production in favor of craftsmen labor because of some romantic fetishization of medieval guilds.

The Nazis were authoritarian nationalists who would do anything to keep people loyal to them and push their economy onto a war footing. Why? Because they believed that war would magically fix everything, and that it was the ultimate test of a civilization. When the Soviets reached Berlin Hitler believed that the Germans should fight to the death because they had failed the test and deserved their deaths. After giving up on the ghost divisions that refused to relieve Berlin, Hitler went to the extreme of ordering the flooding of the subways (filled with refugees). Nobody followed these insane orders.

During the Nazi Party's early years there were many National Socialists who were socialists. Goebbels was a KPD (Communist Party) member before joining the Nazis to become what was called a "Beefsteak Nazi" (Brown outside, red within) and Ernst Rohm the leader of the BrownShirts (SA) was an enemy of Hitler because he wanted a "Second Revolution" to topple capitalism after 1933. During the Night of Long Knives disloyal socialists within the Nazi Party like Rohm were killed. They were replaced with more nationalistic leaders who believed in mysticism and loyalty to Hitler.

Why did the Nazis declare war on the USSR? To overthrow what they considered Judeo-Bolshevism. Why did the Nazis declare war on the USA? Because Judeo-capitalism was going to declare on them anyway. To paraphrase the diplomat Ribbentrop: "A Great Power does not have war declared upon it, it declares war". The Nazis despised both capitalism and and communism. They also despised decadent liberalism and despised backwards traditionalism. You cannot put the Nazis in any of these boxes because they take stuff from all of them.

He also called Afghanistan a puppet government, which regardless of your feelings towards the situation, I think that remark combined with the screencap above points to a more left-leaning view on contemporary politics.
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The afghan government being a puppet regime isn't too much of a lefty opinion. Plenty on the right have gone full on non-interventionist, and plenty of lefties are interventionist. Max Boot (neoconservative) became a #VoteBlueNoMatterWho Democrat as a response to Trump, and a professor of mine who is liberal believes in the Afghanistan mission for LGBT/Women reasons. I've also encountered many on the right who adore the idea of a bunch of armed peasants toppling a state backed by the toughest countries in the world.
 
Cody let out some more tweets that can give us more insight in his politics. I don't think he's a Commie due to his support of ArmchairHistory when tankies went after him for not praising North Korea but he is clearly slipping more to the left, probably in the Christian Socialism sect.
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This is such a shitty take and deserve to be mocked. It's the same as those CivNats who say shit like, "Yeah the country might become Mexico 2.0 but all those Hispanics are BASED and REDPILLED Republicans when they come over!"
He also called Afghanistan a puppet government, which regardless of your feelings towards the situation, I think that remark combined with the screencap above points to a more left-leaning view on contemporary politics.
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Can't say I disagree with him on this, sink or swim you Afghan retards.
Of course, could be wrong and he's not that sincere but I can't shake the feeling with that recent video he put that he's sliding more under Tigerstar and CynicalHistorian's political influence.
I don't watch him enough to care too much but seeing as he is one of the bigger althist spergs him falling under the views of Cynical (I'm wondering tis there's some inner clique of leftist YouTubers) would really screw over a lot of scenarios because of his audience size. What if Communists took over Germany during the Revolution would probably become some Marxist wank where Germany and the USSR unite into one internationalist state and do no bad at all.
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If you oppose Critical Race Theory you're basically a Lost Causer.
Correct me if I'm wrong but are the Daughters/Sons of the Confederacy not just a organization that works to preserve the memory of the soldiers who fell for that state, regardless of their personal views on slavery?
 
Correct me if I'm wrong but are the Daughters/Sons of the Confederacy not just a organization that works to preserve the memory of the soldiers who fell for that state, regardless of their personal views on slavery?
lol no. They were big backers of the KKK and pushed white supremacy and fought integration. They’re also huge lost causers, and in general apologists for about everything involving the confederacy.
 
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If you oppose Critical Race Theory you're basically a Lost Causer.
I thought Cypher was against the 1619 project and other programs that are inspired by it, then how could he support critical race theory?

The afghan government being a puppet regime isn't too much of a lefty opinion. Plenty on the right have gone full on non-interventionist, and plenty of lefties are interventionist. Max Boot (neoconservative) became a #VoteBlueNoMatterWho Democrat as a response to Trump, and a professor of mine who is liberal believes in the Afghanistan mission for LGBT/Women reasons. I've also encountered many on the right who adore the idea of a bunch of armed peasants toppling a state backed by the toughest countries in the world.
We fought there for 20 years if there government can't defend itself then so be it.
 
They didn't have a socialist economy. They had a corporatist-like economy that would do anything to better equip the country for war.

Nazi economics was schizophrenic, but had one goal. Hitler was backed by major military industrialists during his political campaigns, and despite his socialistic rhetoric spent the entirety of the early 1930s following a program of mass privatization. The Nazis believed in markets, and private ownership of capital to such a degree that it continued right till the end of the war. Hitler created socialistic programs like the Volkswagen (People's Car), and utopian work programs like Strength Through Joy. However, the utopian socialistic conditions of Strength through Joy were to bind people to their employers and keep employees happy (strikes were banned) and the cars were designed for military specifications and seized when the broke out. He embraced planned economics for his war industry, but it was still private industry doing all of the work. Nazi economics was all over the place, and that isn't even mentioning insane stuff like their rejection of mass production in favor of craftsmen labor because of some romantic fetishization of medieval guilds.

The Nazis were authoritarian nationalists who would do anything to keep people loyal to them and push their economy onto a war footing. Why? Because they believed that war would magically fix everything, and that it was the ultimate test of a civilization. When the Soviets reached Berlin Hitler believed that the Germans should fight to the death because they had failed the test and deserved their deaths. After giving up on the ghost divisions that refused to relieve Berlin, Hitler went to the extreme of ordering the flooding of the subways (filled with refugees). Nobody followed these insane orders.

During the Nazi Party's early years there were many National Socialists who were socialists. Goebbels was a KPD (Communist Party) member before joining the Nazis to become what was called a "Beefsteak Nazi" (Brown outside, red within) and Ernst Rohm the leader of the BrownShirts (SA) was an enemy of Hitler because he wanted a "Second Revolution" to topple capitalism after 1933. During the Night of Long Knives disloyal socialists within the Nazi Party like Rohm were killed. They were replaced with more nationalistic leaders who believed in mysticism and loyalty to Hitler.

Why did the Nazis declare war on the USSR? To overthrow what they considered Judeo-Bolshevism. Why did the Nazis declare war on the USA? Because Judeo-capitalism was going to declare on them anyway. To paraphrase the diplomat Ribbentrop: "A Great Power does not have war declared upon it, it declares war". The Nazis despised both capitalism and and communism. They also despised decadent liberalism and despised backwards traditionalism. You cannot put the Nazis in any of these boxes because they take stuff from all of them.
The only reason why boomer history has to label national socialism as schizophrenic is because it can't marry the idea of complete state control while still keeping the heads of industry alive and not going full purge mode like the communists.
Private businesses though were still forced to join the party and follow the directions of the party.
A lot of socialists will use the privatization of the railroads and federal bank as proof that the national socialists were not socialists, but they ignore that just a few years later the nazis nationalized them again under a new bureaucracy. For the nazis the privatization had nothing to do with the free market, but was instead aimed at tearing down the weimar system and rebuilding a new one. All governments who seek to turn a democracy into a dictatorship must first target the bureaucracy. By rebuilding state firms they were able to put their own people in charge and purged the disloyal.
Going to war against the soviets does not make them less socialist either, the favorite pass time of socialists is fighting other socialists.
Seeing as China supposedly moved across the spectrum from socialism to "corporatism", it's been difficult for most socialists to see where the border on that spectrum lies, and you still have socialists to this day calling China socialist. So exactly what differentiates socialism from corporatism other than keeping private enterprises alive? How can Venezuela have socialism when it has private businesses but nazi germany can not? Exactly how many welfare policies, worker unions, state controlled enterprises, and wealth redistribution do you need to become socialist?
 
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