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Why did GW go with marvel of all publishers for their 40k comic? 2000AD is literally the perfect publisher for that sort of thing but I guess GW thinks its an american company now with how they are copying disney+ in every way possible.

Look they even copied the shit american journalists do by putting "heres what you need to know" in the headline
It's the same reason why you would pay the New York Times to shill for you. Publicity and name recognition. 2000AD publishing a comic for you sounds good, having Marvel publish for you will sound more impressive to the suits and the normies. Old GW would have gone for 2000AD to make 40K comics since they were a smaller company back then. Modern GW, on the other hand, probably thinks they're too good for 2000AD as ever since 2017, they've grown into a bigger company.
 
The Primaris break every rule in the book of how Space Marines run. They come from Mars and are trained there, instead of being trained on each chapter's homeworld. They have their own geneseeds that are different from the chapters they're assigned to. If the lore was taken seriously at all, this would have started a civil war, with most chapters calling for Guilliman's head. I originally thought that was the intent, Guilliman was poking the more retrograde aspects of the Imperium Palpatine-style so he can have an excuse to Order 66 them all and replace them with his new warriors who would be specifically loyal to him. Imagine my surprise when the Imperium barely reacted, and the profit margins of Games Workshop began to rise.
Huh? This doesn't jibe with what I've read. Yeah, the original Primaris (that Cawl cooked up on the sly) probably came from and were trained on Mars, but after than later batches were raised and trained by their chapters. That doesn't even get into Marines that undergo Rubicon Primaris (a process that converts them into Primaris Marines). Where are you getting some of this from?
 
Huh? This doesn't jibe with what I've read. Yeah, the original Primaris (that Cawl cooked up on the sly) probably came from and were trained on Mars, but after than later batches were raised and trained by their chapters. That doesn't even get into Marines that undergo Rubicon Primaris (a process that converts them into Primaris Marines). Where are you getting some of this from?
They were also cooked up from their Primarchs gene-seed and they were placed in chapters with matching gene-seed. For example, Primaris Marines can fall to the Black Rage and they do...
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Huh? This doesn't jibe with what I've read. Yeah, the original Primaris (that Cawl cooked up on the sly) probably came from and were trained on Mars, but after than later batches were raised and trained by their chapters. That doesn't even get into Marines that undergo Rubicon Primaris (a process that converts them into Primaris Marines). Where are you getting some of this from?
I was talking about the original Primaris Marines that Cawl came up with on the fly, not the ones later raised and trained by the chapters, nor the Firstborn Marines turned into Primaris. Heck, my own homebrew chapter refused the guys from Mars, but accepted the Primaris Geneseed and armor and began making their own Primaris Marines, as well as turning willing veterans into Primaris Marines.
 
Pokemon related drama. So a little while ago I poster this video regarding scalpers making it hard to get Pokemon TCG product
Well after this the YouTuber from this video Frosted Caribou got into a minor beef with a man named Gary King. For those who don’t know Gary King is he is famous for owning a lot of Charizard cards and nothing else. He was even featured on Pawn Stars
So in her response she features a DM conversation she had with Gary and how she said she was receiving misogynistic comments. Yes I know boo hoo mean words on the internet but this is the interesting part, Gary asked he could come on Frosted Caribous channel but if she didn’t want to speak with him she could speak with his wife because reasons I guess.
Now Gary said in interviews with other people (one of them being his son) and on his own response video that he had a woman looking through and deleting comments that were negative from the start but liked others that didn’t start negative. Now it doesn’t take a genius to know the person he asked to monitor the comments was his wife and he offered her up to be interviewed in order to shield himself.
He also mentioned in interviews that the original video was merely a number chasing game by her because his name gets viewers. He even goes to bat for Logan fucking Paul (who is mentioned in the first video) saying that he was obviously the bigger Pokemon fan because he has lots of Pokemon tattoos. The only reason Frosted Caribou even made this video was because after they both agreed in DM’s to no longer mention it Gary just carries on with the whole thing. Full response below
Nothing else seems to have happened other then a few minor channels picking it up at the time but we’ll see.
 
Pokemon related drama. So a little while ago I poster this video regarding scalpers making it hard to get Pokemon TCG product
Well after this the YouTuber from this video Frosted Caribou got into a minor beef with a man named Gary King. For those who don’t know Gary King is he is famous for owning a lot of Charizard cards and nothing else. He was even featured on Pawn Stars
So in her response she features a DM conversation she had with Gary and how she said she was receiving misogynistic comments. Yes I know boo hoo mean words on the internet but this is the interesting part, Gary asked he could come on Frosted Caribous channel but if she didn’t want to speak with him she could speak with his wife because reasons I guess.
Now Gary said in interviews with other people (one of them being his son) and on his own response video that he had a woman looking through and deleting comments that were negative from the start but liked others that didn’t start negative. Now it doesn’t take a genius to know the person he asked to monitor the comments was his wife and he offered her up to be interviewed in order to shield himself.
He also mentioned in interviews that the original video was merely a number chasing game by her because his name gets viewers. He even goes to bat for Logan fucking Paul (who is mentioned in the first video) saying that he was obviously the bigger Pokemon fan because he has lots of Pokemon tattoos. The only reason Frosted Caribou even made this video was because after they both agreed in DM’s to no longer mention it Gary just carries on with the whole thing. Full response below
Nothing else seems to have happened other then a few minor channels picking it up at the time but we’ll see.

These scalpers inevitably get fucked when Nintendo releases new remakes of those old pricey cards and sells them for $20 a pop on Target. The only people who would obsess over getting the old cards that came out in the old days would be spergs with too much money to burn anyways, while the average player would just go for the cheaper, better cards coming out nowadays.

Majorkill attempting to triangulate himself as an intermediary between GW and 'the community.' He put that edgyboi schtick away pretty fast.

He has to make bank by getting himself in bed with Games Workshop. And if it works, maybe GW will make him an intermediary who gets free stuff first.
 
Pokemon related drama. So a little while ago I poster this video regarding scalpers making it hard to get Pokemon TCG product
Well after this the YouTuber from this video Frosted Caribou got into a minor beef with a man named Gary King. For those who don’t know Gary King is he is famous for owning a lot of Charizard cards and nothing else. He was even featured on Pawn Stars
So in her response she features a DM conversation she had with Gary and how she said she was receiving misogynistic comments. Yes I know boo hoo mean words on the internet but this is the interesting part, Gary asked he could come on Frosted Caribous channel but if she didn’t want to speak with him she could speak with his wife because reasons I guess.
Now Gary said in interviews with other people (one of them being his son) and on his own response video that he had a woman looking through and deleting comments that were negative from the start but liked others that didn’t start negative. Now it doesn’t take a genius to know the person he asked to monitor the comments was his wife and he offered her up to be interviewed in order to shield himself.
He also mentioned in interviews that the original video was merely a number chasing game by her because his name gets viewers. He even goes to bat for Logan fucking Paul (who is mentioned in the first video) saying that he was obviously the bigger Pokemon fan because he has lots of Pokemon tattoos. The only reason Frosted Caribou even made this video was because after they both agreed in DM’s to no longer mention it Gary just carries on with the whole thing. Full response below
Nothing else seems to have happened other then a few minor channels picking it up at the time but we’ll see.
so what was that about, her dropping his name for views then trying to start shit when it turns out it was his wife? or his wife talked shit which would made it the equivalent of black on black crime?
video is age restricted, so no idea what's in it.

You two are talking about two different things. Lorefags are people who take the lore seriously, not the average Warhammer 40.000 player.

The average Warhammer 40.000 player is interested in the lore in the sense that it's part of the appeal of the game, but they are not so invested in it that they would stop playing due to lore changes. They get the new lore passed down to them, and they might grumble but they still accept it and keep playing. They've accepted a single Archmagos making enormous advances upon the Emperor's work and creating not only the Primaris but also all their gear. They've accepted Roboute Guilliman coming back to life through the power of hot alien titties. They accepted the Necrons being retconned from Terminators to bickering Tomb Kings IN SPAAAAAACE. They accepted the Tau being created out of whole cloth and somehow not being immediately crushed by the Imperium. They accepted the Squats being turned into bug snacks. The list goes on and on. The average 40k player is not going to get their panties in a twist about the game's retarded lore decisions.

And besides, if you asked most of them the question "would you be bothered if Games Workshop released female Space Marine models?", the vast majority would of them wouldn't reply with "I would stop playing the game if they did". Because it's a very minor thing in the great scheme of things. The "lore" reason for Space Marines being only male is very simple, and as I said before they are less of a lore break than the Primaris ever were. It's a "why not?" thing for most people, not to mention the muscle-girl fetishists who have been lusting over the idea for decades now.

Most people don't have strong feelings either way about female Space Marines, which is why in the current climate Games Workshop is going to eventually release them. They'll make a big song and dance about it, they'll get lots of public praise about "finally correcting a deep injustice in their product" or some shit like that, and they'll rake in money hand over fist with those models because they're new and shiny and people with pride flags in their twitter profiles will immediately start building their own female-exclusive Space Marine Chapters.
those are not completely separate groups, which was my point. if they don't care about the lore, why do they play a (depending who you ask) mediocre game? if it doesn't matter and it's all about wargaming with units and stats, there would be no need to become part of an expensive hobby when you can just do that with cardboard chits. if you don't care about warhammer, why do you play warhammer?

of course female marines won't make people burn their armies, but at the same time end times did. I didn't see all those WHFB players who didn't care about the lore storm into their local store to clean out the AoS stock - or even play it since they could re-use their armies.
any change has an effect, and there's a wide spectrum of people between a lorefag and a waacfag which to a certain degree do care, and even if they don't they'll still be affected. or look at it like this, if you have 5 people and 2 quit over it, that limits your pool of opponents severely. the rest might not care about the lore, but when over time they don't have anyone to play against, talk about the game with or just hang out doing the same thing, all that plastic means fuck all. because again, those are not exclusive groups with no overlap. if those two start playing the cooler, better game, how high is the chance the other 3 stick with the now great warhammer where you have to make dilation rolls? how many want to get (and dump money) into warhammer instead of that cooler, better game replacing the people who jumped ship? unless ofc you believe people never quit, if they're ok with X they are always ok with Y and your playerbase will grow no matter what.
and thats's just the effect of lore changes, imagine what's gonna happen with the game when gw thinks they can do whatever without consequences...

it's the exact same shit with star wars, remember how people complained about disney decanonizing the EU? who cared about that? who read that to begin with? bunch of nerds who don't represent spending power anyway. if that doesn't matter and all you need is lightsabers and funny noises to make people throw money at you, following that logic star wars should still be a thriving market dominating IP, even bigger now that it has become more accessible and inclusive. except it's not 2015 anymore where "hurr TFA made 2 billion dollars, look at the graph, star wars will always make money" still might have worked.
 
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so what was that about, her dropping his name for views then trying to start shit when it turns out it was his wife? or his wife talked shit which would made it the equivalent of black on black crime?
video is age restricted, so no idea what's in it.


those are not completely separate groups, which was my point. if they don't care about the lore, why do they play a (depending who you ask) mediocre game? if it doesn't matter and it's all about wargaming with units and stats, there would be no need to become part of an expensive hobby when you can just do that with cardboard chits. if you don't care about warhammer, why do you play warhammer?

of course female marines won't make people burn their armies, but at the same time end times did. I didn't see all those WHFB players who didn't care about the lore storm into their local store to clean out the AoS stock - or even play it since they could re-use their armies.
any change has an effect, and there's a wide spectrum of people between a lorefag and a waacfag which to a certain degree do care, and even if they don't they'll still be affected. or look at it like this, if you have 5 people and 2 quit over it, that limits your pool of opponents severely. the rest might not care about the lore, but when over time they don't have anyone to play against, talk about the game with or just hang out doing the same thing, all that plastic means fuck all. because again, those are not exclusive groups with no overlap. if those two start playing the cooler, better game, how high is the chance the other 3 stick with the now great warhammer where you have to make dilation rolls? how many want to get (and dump money) into warhammer instead of that cooler, better game replacing the people who jumped ship? unless ofc you believe people never quit, if they're ok with X they are always ok with Y and your playerbase will grow no matter what.
and thats's just the effect of lore changes, imagine what's gonna happen with the game when gw thinks they can do whatever without consequences...

it's the exact same shit with star wars, remember how people complained about disney decanonizing the EU? who cared about that? who read that to begin with? bunch of nerds who don't represent spending power anyway. if that doesn't matter and all you need is lightsabers and funny noises to make people throw money at you, following that logic star wars should still be a thriving market dominating IP, even bigger now that it has become more accessible and inclusive. except it's not 2015 anymore where "hurr TFA made 2 billion dollars, look at the graph, star wars will always make money" still might have worked.
Gary featured in a thumb nail of another video which she had featured and he got butt mad. A summary of the age restricted video is the couple paragraphs above it.
 
so what was that about, her dropping his name for views then trying to start shit when it turns out it was his wife? or his wife talked shit which would made it the equivalent of black on black crime?
video is age restricted, so no idea what's in it.


those are not completely separate groups, which was my point. if they don't care about the lore, why do they play a (depending who you ask) mediocre game? if it doesn't matter and it's all about wargaming with units and stats, there would be no need to become part of an expensive hobby when you can just do that with cardboard chits. if you don't care about warhammer, why do you play warhammer?

of course female marines won't make people burn their armies, but at the same time end times did. I didn't see all those WHFB players who didn't care about the lore storm into their local store to clean out the AoS stock - or even play it since they could re-use their armies.
any change has an effect, and there's a wide spectrum of people between a lorefag and a waacfag which to a certain degree do care, and even if they don't they'll still be affected. or look at it like this, if you have 5 people and 2 quit over it, that limits your pool of opponents severely. the rest might not care about the lore, but when over time they don't have anyone to play against, talk about the game with or just hang out doing the same thing, all that plastic means fuck all. because again, those are not exclusive groups with no overlap. if those two start playing the cooler, better game, how high is the chance the other 3 stick with the now great warhammer where you have to make dilation rolls? how many want to get (and dump money) into warhammer instead of that cooler, better game replacing the people who jumped ship? unless ofc you believe people never quit, if they're ok with X they are always ok with Y and your playerbase will grow no matter what.
and thats's just the effect of lore changes, imagine what's gonna happen with the game when gw thinks they can do whatever without consequences...

it's the exact same shit with star wars, remember how people complained about disney decanonizing the EU? who cared about that? who read that to begin with? bunch of nerds who don't represent spending power anyway. if that doesn't matter and all you need is lightsabers and funny noises to make people throw money at you, following that logic star wars should still be a thriving market dominating IP, even bigger now that it has become more accessible and inclusive. except it's not 2015 anymore where "hurr TFA made 2 billion dollars, look at the graph, star wars will always make money" still might have worked.

You're not listening.

The main money-makers for Star Wars are the EU fans who buy all the comics, books, and games, and the normie fans who watch movies and cartoons. Disney burned bridges with the former when they decanonized the EU, and they insulted the latter by calling them names after they rejected the Last Jedi. This then led to Star Wars falling apart as a franchise until Dave Filoni and Jon Favreau managed to win the normies and some elements of the EU fanbase back via television shows that were designed to appeal to both of them. Disney has to actually listen to the fans because the fans are their source of money.

The main money-makers for 40K are NOT the lore addicts, but the whales and model enthusiasts who buy truckloads of models for painting and wargaming. The lorefags barely play the game at all and spend most of their money on the books-a tiny percentage of GW's profit margins when compared to the whales who will have no problems with female marines, as they had no problems with the immensely lore-breaking Primaris Marines, either. GW can come out tomorrow and say that the Emperor of Mankind was a brown transsexual Mexican woman, and so long as the model-buyers who buy models by the truckload to paint and play wargames with are happy, GW's profit margin will remain unaffected outside of a small dip in profit due to the lorefags calling it quits. Hence why female marines won't matter, since the majority of people who buy GW products won't give a damn outside of maybe putting them through Rule 34 the same way they did to the Sisters of Battle.
 
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I'm a lorefag. I haven't touched my own models for gameply purposes in... two editions now?

Female Space Marines would, to me, be a disaster because a) they don't make any sense and b) that's the end of my beloved and often shat upon Sisters of Battle. The Sisters are a far more interesting army lore-wise than Nigella the Musclebound, Champion of the Black Tampax is ever going to be.

Yes, I was also one of those Star Wars EU fags who had no truck with SW content after they shat on the EU. Didn't go to see any of the sequel trilogy, blah blah. We do exist and we can be grumpy and stubborn arseholes with wallets welded closed.

GW makes its core business out of models, but lorefags aren't buying models we object to (just because we don't play much doesn't mean we don't collect the bloody plastic, ask my attic space) and they also make plenty money out of the Black Library. The lorefags keep that in business and I will not be reading any books about Nigella either.
 
arch warhammers reaction would make it worth it.

I'd love to see him explode over such an announcement. It'd be the joke of the century.

I'm a lorefag. I haven't touched my own models for gameply purposes in... two editions now?

Female Space Marines would, to me, be a disaster because a) they don't make any sense and b) that's the end of my beloved and often shat upon Sisters of Battle. The Sisters are a far more interesting army lore-wise than Nigella the Musclebound, Champion of the Black Tampax is ever going to be.

Yes, I was also one of those Star Wars EU fags who had no truck with SW content after they shat on the EU. Didn't go to see any of the sequel trilogy, blah blah. We do exist and we can be grumpy and stubborn arseholes with wallets welded closed.

GW makes its core business out of models, but lorefags aren't buying models we object to (just because we don't play much doesn't mean we don't collect the bloody plastic, ask my attic space) and they also make plenty money out of the Black Library. The lorefags keep that in business and I will not be reading any books about Nigella either.

Again, that explains my point. Lore fans haven't played the actual game for years, maybe even decades. And while Black Library makes a decent amount of money, it's nowhere near the gigantic amount they make through model sales. As for the Sisters of Battle, that's probably where most of the recruits for the female space marines will come from. They already wear power armor and use bolter weapons, the process will just make them more durable and more like their god-emperor, which they will obviously want.

Female marines won't change things much for GW. The model collectors get to paint new models, the hentai artists get a new target for their Slaaneshi Rule 34 shenanigans, the SJWs and feminists cream their pants, while the lorefags impotently seethe in the background.
 

I'm not even going to specifically link any of this retards garbage, because his whole timeline is full of completely asinine "GaMiNg HaS tO bE mOrE AcCeSsIbLe, BuT oNlY iN wAyS i ApPrOvE oF!" It's the standard "Orcs are black-coded!", "Alignment is racist!", "Not letting me demand my bizarre accessibility options that make no sense in fantasy worlds where levitation and healing magic exist is abelist!", and "I'm not gatekeeping, despite being the obvious newcomer, you're just being phased out because you're a bigot!" bullshit.

Extra bonus, pronouns in bio.
 
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I'm not even going to specifically link any of this retards garbage, because his whole timeline is full of completely asinine "GaMiNg HaS tO bE mOrE AcCeSsIbLe, BuT oNlY iN wAyS i ApPrOvE oF!" It's the standard "Orcs are black-coded!", "Alignment is racist!", "Not letting me demand my bizarre accessibility options that make no sense in fantasy worlds where levitation and healing magic exist is abelist!", and "I'm not gatekeeping, despite being the obvious newcomer, you're just being phased out because you're a bigot!" bullshit.

Extra bonus, pronouns in bio.
lol just go to the local temple and un-crippled faggot
 

I'm not even going to specifically link any of this retards garbage, because his whole timeline is full of completely asinine "GaMiNg HaS tO bE mOrE AcCeSsIbLe, BuT oNlY iN wAyS i ApPrOvE oF!" It's the standard "Orcs are black-coded!", "Alignment is racist!", "Not letting me demand my bizarre accessibility options that make no sense in fantasy worlds where levitation and healing magic exist is abelist!", and "I'm not gatekeeping, despite being the obvious newcomer, you're just being phased out because you're a bigot!" bullshit.

Extra bonus, pronouns in bio.
Mother of God. He's like the final boss of Battle-chair twitter.
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Only two kinds of dragons can polymorph at an age below ancient and they're both Metallics. Hatchlings, young dragons and most adults can't do it.

t. Local Dragonlance DM.
 
Mother of God. He's like the final boss of Battle-chair twitter.
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Only two kinds of dragons can polymorph at an age below ancient and they're both Metallics. Hatchlings, young dragons and most adults can't do it.

t. Local Dragonlance DM.
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Blind. Deaf. Autistic. Crippled. I have NEVER met a disabled person who wouldn't give just about ANYTHING to be cured. EVER. I have ASKED them this and had to apologize because they thought I was being an insensitive asshole.

These faggots are full of shit. Absolutely full of shit. The "transdisabled" version of this:

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