Taliban offensive of 2021 and collapse of Afghan government.

[Fools Idol]

People can blame the gov all they like for this shit show but the truth is that every voter had a hand to play in this. This issue has been so politicized, with every uninformed retard demanding we "leave them alone" or "let them kill each other" and now people are crying about a humanitarian crisis in the making and soldiers asking "what the fuck was the last two decades about?" and "why did my friends die?".

I'm not a supporter of forever wars and I know that the collation would have had to pull out at some point but I don't know what people were expecting.

 

[ditto]

Funny thing, the absolute WORST thing that the Taliban could do is make all the US Embassy personnel board a plane and fly the fuck out in their underwear.

It would be far worse if the embassy staff were captured and paraded around Iran 2.0 style. Hopefully State isn't that disorganized.

The eerie thing is I haven't heard a talking head try and blame Trump. They're just ignoring it, running the usual covid and climate change stories.

EDIT:

Aid to the Taliban is now on the table. What a collossal fuckup.

 

[The Last Boyscout]

^ oh, well, gee - those two things surely aren't the fault of the american south lol. they're talking about them since they're way more current than Trumpo and still the same demographic to villify and distract from this debacle.

and nah, if the Taliban are smart with their propaganda (and so far they have been, as best as we can tell - whispering sweet nothings to the media about how they'll honor their word and not hurt anyone that just gives up), then humiliating but not harming ala Iran all of the US Embassy is by far the best move they can make. it'll hurt 'murican pride super bad while also making everyone else (i.e. China) wonder if they might actually be someone you can deal without fear of violence and make some money.

 

[The Last Boyscout]

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Aid to the Taliban is now on the table. What a collossal fuckup.

lmfao...from "We don't negotiate with TERRirsts!" to "PLZZZZZZ don't hurt our peeps, we'll give you candies!" in under 20 years. the absolute state of american pride.

 

[Kiwisee]

lmfao...from "We don't negotiate with TERRirsts!" to "PLZZZZZZ don't hurt our peeps, we'll give you candies!" in under 20 years. the absolute state of american pride.

This is likely going to turn into one of the most recent big humiliations for the USA, and especially for the Democrat party. Midterms might be messy for them at this rate.

 

[Random Internet Person]

This is likely going to turn into one of the most recent big humiliations for the USA, and especially for the Democrat party. Midterms might be messy for them at this rate.

You forget…2020 election and HR1. And a repeat of lockdowns is being attempted. We’ll most likely see Biden and Harris being shocked that the Taliban aren’t wanting to sing Kumbayah with them.

 

[ditto]

You forget…2020 election and HR1. And a repeat of lockdowns is being attempted. We’ll most likely see Biden and Harris being shocked that the Taliban aren’t wanting to sing Kumbayah with them.

I fear that Biden and his handlers will just agree to whatever eye-watering amount of "aid" the taliban demand.

 

[ArthuriusMartyrius]

Strange seeing so many guys in turbans with such pale complexions.

Watch videos of the Taliban and then watch videos of the "refugees" fleeing the Taliban, especially the men. There are some...interesting conclusions to be made there concerning their skin.

 

[FAQnews Correspondent]

if another 9/11 happens its because the fbi fucked up again. and since theyre focused on internet trolling, theyre definitely going to fuck up and let another 9/11 happen. they apparently knew about the 93 bombing as well.

There won't be an interest in another 9/11, the government is already doing enough terror and collapsing of the nation as it is.

hell, at this point I wouldn't even be surprised if they find those complete files by just going to the recycle bin and clicking 'restore' - that's the level of incompetence I feel the US intelligence community is at right now in light of everything that's happened!

Ok, sure, the intelligence community might not be able to use computers anymore, but they've hired a lot of obese Latinx single birthing parents with mental problems, which is more important at the end of the day.

People can blame the gov all they like for this shit show but the truth is that every voter had a hand to play in this. This issue has been so politicized, with every uninformed retard demanding we "leave them alone" or "let them kill each other" and now people are crying about a humanitarian crisis in the making and soldiers asking "what the fuck was the last two decades about?" and "why did my friends die?".

I'm not a supporter of forever wars and I know that the collation would have had to pull out at some point but I don't know what people were expecting.

We were expecting the US to be out of the country by May 1, as per the ceasefire and the terms of the agreement, not to lie and unilaterally tell the other parties to shove the agreement up their ass and say PULLING OUT SEPTEMBER 11 MUCH PATRIOTIC wow

I fear that Biden and his handlers will just agree to whatever eye-watering amount of "aid" the taliban demand.

I've pretty much given up on the idea of taxpayers seeing much of the money that's paid in.

the absolute state of american pride.

We're going back to state and regional pride baybee!

 

[ditto]

Ok, sure, the intelligence community might not be able to use computers anymore, but they've hired a lot of obese Latinx single birthing parents with mental problems, which is more important at the end of the day.

Soviets had political officers and party members stationed throughout society to keep the ideological line in check.

The western ruling class has weaponized fetishists to achieve the same ends. Genius in its own way.

 

[Fools Idol]

We were expecting the US to be out of the country by May 1, as per the ceasefire and the terms of the agreement, not to lie and unilaterally tell the other parties to shove the agreement up their ass and say PULLING IUT SEPTEMBER 11 I AM THE REAL PATRIOT LOL

The issue isn't one of time tables and agreements, the US could have spent the next decade there or pulled out years ago and the result would have ended up the same.

 

[HumanHive]

Notice how everyone was okay with how Afghanistan was going until we started losing too quickly. Days instead of months.

Managed decline. Your leaders hate victory and want the US to meekly bow to the third world.

 

[Random Internet Person]

The issue isn't one of time tables and agreements, the US could have spent the next decade there or pulled out years ago and the result would have ended up the same.

Maybe. But the issue is I believe that we wouldn’t have to see another Fall of Saigon situation. Or at least it wouldn’t be on the US as much.

I fear that Biden and his handlers will just agree to whatever eye-watering amount of "aid" the taliban demand.

Wouldn’t put it past Washington.

Notice how everyone was okay with how Afghanistan was going until we started losing too quickly. Days instead of months.

I think it was everyone was caught off guard by how efficient and quickly The Taliban have been. It makes it look like it was all on the US.

Managed decline. Your leaders hate victory and want the US to meekly bow to the third world.

I thought that the leaders only wanted to bow to China. And groups like the EU and the UN.

 

[ditto]

The issue isn't one of time tables and agreements, the US could have spent the next decade there or pulled out years ago and the result would have ended up the same.

Ron Paul who wanted Congress to issue a letter of marque and reprisal against bin Laden, something that the constitution explicitly allows for.

If Dr. Paul's advice had been taken the Taliban would had offed Al-Qaeda in 2002 and 20 years of blood and treasure would have been saved.

 

[The Last Boyscout]

I think it was everyone was caught off guard by how efficient and quickly The Taliban have been. It makes it look like it was all on the US.

if nothing else, it will absolutely obliterate any semblance of legitimacy that the puppet government might've been argued to have. South Vietnam still could've been argued to have had some, despite its own corruption problems, but this shit is as if it was all a literal mirage to begin with. impressive how much money the US could pour into a mirage, but then again this is the country that built and venerates the city of Las Vegas.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

Afghanistan isn't the center of international muslim terrorism.

...but it used to be. And now it will be again.

 

[Corette]

...but it used to be. And now it will be again.

There's no change that they'll have same pull as Saudis.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

You can. You just need to be willing to be ruthless, something which is not acceptable in these civilised times. And when I say ruthless, I mean willing to kill 50+% of the population to enforce your complete and total will, not just this half-assed method of "winning hearts and minds".

You don't really have to kill 50% of the population, you just have to kill off the majority of their best fighting men, as they are where resistance comes from. You automatically accomplish this in a long bloody war, so the subsequent occupation goes better. In a short war where you swoop in and take the capital, you've left most of your future opposition still alive. (The Taliban know this, which means there are going to be a lot of dead non-Pashtuns in the coming weeks)

Scale Smerch said:
The US military was honed by WW2 and the Korean War to fight legitimate state actors, not asymmetric insurgent groups.

Give the military more credit. We've gotten really good at fighting insurgencies too. Those skills were honed in Vietnam, and again in Fallujah. The US has the best door-to-door street fighters in the world now (except for maybe Israel). We're really good at spotting and dealing with IEDs and other tools of asymmetric warfare. What America has failed at is the political skills that stop insurgencies from happening.

 

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remember that every time a leftist says your AR-15 won't stop the government

You may have forgotten that there's a critical element to these men's success that doesn't even remotely involve weapons.

 

[ArthuriusMartyrius]

...but it used to be. And now it will be again.

Unlikely. One of the things that the Taliban learned in the past 2 decades is that aligning with the likes of Al-Qaeda and ISIS and thus bringing upon them the wrath of whoever happened to be the target of the former's terrorism was a huge fucking mistake, so they will likely contain their effort exclusively to keeping control over Afghanistan. Russia and China have both already had meetings and even agreements written up with Taliban leaders, which leads me to believe that the Taliban is gonna try to reorganize as a more "diplomatic" government, for lack of a better term.