Taliban offensive of 2021 and collapse of Afghan government.


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Apparently what might be happenig at the airport.


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Something's definitely up at the airport.

Also Twitter is starting to fill with reports of Taliban marching towards the Palace for the transfer of power.
 
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get_ur_gamon said:
I probably shouldn't be surprised, but it feels insane that they only lasted, what 3 months and the central government didn't launch 1 major offensive?
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Why would they fight back? The previous regime was always a mirage, with the US gone the people of the region are returning to self governance.

Foreigners can think what they want, but every people deserve self determination, and the people of the region have spoken.
 
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get_ur_gamon said:
Oh fuck. It's over.
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Afghanistan will have a "peaceful transfer of power" to a "transitional government" led by the Taliban, acting Afghan Interior Minister Abdul Sattar Mirzakwal said Sunday.

In a video message, broadcast on local news outlet Tolo TV, Mirzakwal said: "The Afghan people should not worry... There will be no attack on the city and there will be a peaceful transfer of power."




Around the same time on Sunday, CNN reported that the Taliban issued a statement saying it was in talks with "the other side" for a peaceful surrender of the capital and confirmed that the group would refrain from violence.

"No one's head, property or honor will be harmed and the lives of Kabulis will not be in danger. The Islamic Emirate instructs all its forces to stand at the gates of Kabul and not try to enter the city," a spokesperson told ABC News.


The Taliban's international media spokesperson, Suhail Shaheen, confirmed to Al Jazeera that the group will remain on standby on the outskirts of the city while transition talks take place.

Shaheen did not specify what sort of agreement the Taliban wants, but the Associated Press reported that the group is seeking an unconditional surrender by the central government.

Ashraf Ghani, the country's current president, is expected to relinquish power within the next few hours, according to Al Arabiya.

A source close to the Ghani has denied reports that he has fled the country, Al Jazeera said.
I probably shouldn't be surprised, but it feels insane that we witnessed the collapse of a democracy we spent 20 years arming, and in only 3 months. Not one major counter offensive launched.
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I love the smell of normalcy in the morning.
 
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Captain Wetbeard said:
Why would they fight back? The previous regime was always a mirage, with the US gone the people of the region are returning to self governance.

Foreigners can think what they want, but every people deserve self determination, and the people of the region have spoken.
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I think this is something that normies and the warhawks miss/don't understand. You can't foist your "enlightened" values, mentality and way of thinking on a population who do not want it.

That being said, I think there are plenty of Afghans who certainly want a democratic, liberal democracy. But as evidenced by the speed of the Taliban takeover and lack of resistance, these people just didn't have the capacity or want of ability to stand up to them.

Also not sure if this has been posted so far, but there's video purporting to show Taliban forces taking over a border crossing with Pakistan.

 
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Apparently the view from the embassy at the moment.

Also I agree that you can't throw money at changing centuries worth of culture in 20 years, though it's still amazing how fast it all crumbled.

My favorite part is how conflicted the blue checkmark soyboys are by this. On one hand it's "fuck US imperialism", on the other hand "muh women's rights and LQBTQQW/E we must do something".
 
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The guys of American Thinker posted this interesting rant about Afghanistan.
www.americanthinker.com

Afghanistan: The 'Graveyard of Empires' Claims Another?

Afghanistan has been called
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August 15, 2021

Afghanistan: The 'Graveyard of Empires' Claims Another?​

By Fay Voshell

Afghanistan has been called "the graveyard of empires." While disputes about the validity of the term continue, the fact is that the country has been a battleground for empires.
From ancient times until today, the country has been invaded by what is present-day India, the Greeks, Muslims of the Rashidun caliphate, Mongols led by Genghis Khan, Persians, and Sikhs. More recently, the British Empire, the Soviet Union, and NATO led by the United States have had a go at establishing a presence in the nation.
Why is Afghanistan so important?
According to military tacticians, any entity controlling Afghanistan has a gateway to control Southern Asia, especially India, which can be invaded through the Khyber Pass. Control of the pass is a reason so many empires and nations have battled for control of the country. It is key to empire-building in southeast Asia.
Currently, Afghanistan is at least temporarily under the control of the Taliban. But perhaps even more importantly, China has indicated that it will recognize the Taliban if Kabul falls.
What may happen after China recognizes the Taliban?
Since the restraints Western nations such as Britain, America, and NATO (Europe) place on warfare and the concept of "nation-building" while conducting war do not compute when it comes to the CCP, China will no more regard the Taliban as the legitimate rulers of Afghanistan than it has regarded the Dalai Lama as the spiritual leader of Tibet.
The fact is that China has no reluctance in employing whatever means its current communist regime chooses to quash resistance to empire-building. One has only to observe the way the Chinese government treats its own citizens, only recently somewhat freed from the disastrous "one child" policy that has resulted in demographic disaster. One can also cite China's genocidal program aimed at ridding itself of the Uyghur minority within the country. Another indicator of the regime's ruthlessness is its relentless persecution of religious groups, including but not limited to Christians. Further, a country that doesn't hesitate to conduct a brisk trade in organs harvested from still living prisoners would not hesitate to destroy or enslave Afghanis, be they members of the Taliban or not.
In brief, given the documented tactics of its rogue regime, it is clear that China will apply any and all asymmetrical and total war tactics that have the potential to crush the Taliban. Once underfoot, the Taliban would be seen as having been merely a useful tool for disrupting the current and increasingly fragile Afghani government as well as a means of getting America out of the Southeast Asia geo-political equation.
What will follow if China succeeds where the West has failed? What will happen if China essentially takes over Afghanistan?
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Can you make the argument that this was a strategy of sorts...

Taliban takes over
Enter Chyna stage right with boatloads of cash
Taliban allows Chyna to mine
Chyna extracts minerals and percious metals for clean energy infrastructure
USA contracts Chyna: https://archive.is/cf752
Chyna initiates project working to save the world
Left goes balls out and reeeeeee of the brilliance of this move as well as political capital for this Administration is generated @Gehenna did I get this right?
KiwiFarms discusses how dumb of an unsustainable move this is and we really rely on good old fashioned black gold and nuclear power is better.

Looking forward to my puzzle pieces
 
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What will follow if China succeeds where the West has failed? What will happen if China essentially takes over Afghanistan?
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Whatever they have to offer would probably be better than the 'nation building' (or lack thereof) we did over there.
 
This did not age well.

I guess whoever was that one Taliban dude who ended up in Gitmo for 5 or 6 years, saw this shit and realized by Allah's will, he needed to stop the infidels from having the women of Afghanistan turn into the kind of whores who finds on MLK Blvd in many major urban shitholes.

 
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