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Kenichi: The Mightiest Disciple

For something made in 2006, this looks and seems like the kind of anime you had to watch with A+ Internet connection and streaming video that still wasn’t up to speed yet.


Also, you can’t forget about fan subs still being more and more prevalent at the time, whereas compared to today, they treat as a chore and a slog to get through.
 
I remember really liking Aquarion but being a bit put off by the ending, though I should have seen it coming given what sort of anime it was.
 
As for the technical side of things? Yeah, there's some sloppy CGI in places, especially between two EVA units towards the end. Maybe they can update it one day, but if they had simply used animation it would have come out much better. It's sad since for Shinji it's a pivotal moment to make such a decision, and it's marred by looking like an alternative timeline in a PSP game.

That's one criticism I have to nitpick a bit. The sketchy CGI actually made sense in that particular scene, since the entire "fight" was completely pointless; they were simply living out some simulation caused by the weird tesseract thing in the anti-universe and the only way they were going to resolve their conflict was by talking it out. Notice how they shifted through what appeared to be a movie set, to fighting in a room with human-sized EVAs, to various other illogical fight scenes? It was supposed to look fake because in-universe it was.

Anno has a tendency to deliberately use dodgy special effects to serve unconventional purposes, which is something I generally like about his visual design.
 
I just marathoned all four Rebuilds, and after sleeping on it I think I've mostly crystallized my opinion on the series.

As a quick summary, my issues with 3.0+1.0 are pretty much my issues with the Rebuilds as a whole, which can be simply summed up as "style over substance". In NGE, the background lore, the fights, and even the fanservice all contribute, if only just a little, to the overall story and themes. In the Rebuilds they feel like a waste of time and actively detract from the parts which I do like because it's so in-your-face and impossible to ignore. However, overall I like that it expanded on characters who didn't get as much focus in NGE/EoE and I like it a positive re-imagining of EoE and as a more superficially satisfying happy send-off for the cast that doesn't feel artificial or forced, because it does still feel like this is a genuine reflection of Anno's own change in mental state since EoE and since completing his love quest and finding a big tiddy mommy gf.

The good? It adds valuable perspective to some characters who were somewhat lacking in NGE/EoE (Gendo, Rei, Kaworu) and gives Shinji a happy ending that feels earned through self-determination rather than the literal handwavy bullshit that was NGE 25+26 or the incredibly bleak resolution in EoE. The scene where he talks it out with each member of the cast before sending them on their way felt like a way better reimagining of the infamous "Congratulations!" scene, and I was waiting for everyone to show up on the beach like they do on the poster for one final goodbye, which I'm a bit disappointed didn't happen. Rei is the real big winner of the Rebuilds for me, since in NGE she basically disappears from the story once Asuka shows up. If Asuka and Shinji's relationship was the main focus of NGE, then Rei's relationship with him is undoubtedly the focus of the Rebuilds, since her arc (which is central in the climax of 1.0 and 2.0, and one of the main focuses of the first half of 3.0+1.0) is explicitly, by the letter, about her falling in love with Shinji. also, fucking lol, her death is basically a copy of Nia's from Gurren Lagann, whom the long-haired Rei also brings her to mind. Not that I particularly mind that, since I also liked Nia. Overall, I like it as a positive re-interpretation of the same themes as End of Eva that's not really trying to take its place. While EoE is the superior movie by far, it's not like I was expecting 3.0+1.0 to exceed it, so I was pleasantly surprised with it and feel comfortable enjoying it as its own thing.

The bad? The big action sequence in the middle. I tuned right the fuck out because it's just mindless action with little purpose or impact. The new Eva units are complete fodder, and Unit-8's overlap capability is really cool, which makes it worse how criminally underused it was. There was so much going on that I just stopped caring because none of it felt like it really mattered. It's impossible not to measure the action in this movie against Asuka vs. the MPE's from EoE. Unlike most Eva fights, this one actually felt like hand-to-hand combat between skyscraper-sized flesh robots swinging around massive swords. It's a fight with both physical and metaphorical weight, and its brutal conclusion is basically what drives Shinji over the edge and kicks off the start of Instrumentality. Here, they're just easily dispatching literal massive hordes of literal faceless fodder while flying through a red void... and for what purpose? None of it fucking matters. I wish they had instead put their budget and effort into one fight and actually made it count for something instead of blowing their wad on 30 minutes of flashy but ultimately unmemorable action.

Another thing in the department of "pointless bullshit" is the fucking lore. I hated it in 3.0 and I hate it here. I don't give a fuck about the mechanics of the spears, and trying to actually explain what everything means only muddles the metaphors and makes things make LESS sense. NGE had the perfect amount of lore, where if you squinted and didn't think too hard you could see what they were going for with AT fields being a metaphor for people's psychological walls and all that nonsense. Adding in a bunch of specific mechanics just makes these metaphors break down. Like, what's the metaphorical significance of Eva-13 having no AT field? What the fuck are the spears supposed to represent, if anything at all, for how much emphasis is placed on them by the characters and the plot? Does any of this matter? (hint: no.) Evangelion is at its best when these things are left as half-explained metaphors that you can bullshit together some thematic explanation for. Overexplaining the technobabble turned it from interesting metaphors into nonsensical worldbuilding that adds little value and makes things needlessly confusing.

Really, so much of it - the fights, the lore, the fanservice - just feels completely without purpose. What I liked about NGE in the first place is that all of those aspects were important to the characters and story. The fights weren't just flashy robot fights, they symbolized character development. Despite it being completely ridiculous and nonsensical in-universe, Shinji and Asuka's synchronized dancing team-up is my favorite episode of Evangelion because of what it represents in the development of their relationship to each other. Operation Yashima way back in 1.0 (which is mostly a carbon copy of the anime version as-is) is the only Rebuild fight that hits anywhere close to that feeling of being more than just pointless action. In NGE, because Shinji's budding sexuality is a major focus of the story, much of the fanservice is literally just in-universe male gaze from his perspective. When the camera lingers on Misato or Asuka's boobs it's usually to highlight that that's exactly what Shinji's eyes are lingering on at the moment. 3.0+1.0 on the other hand is just FULL of gratuitous butt-shots that really don't serve any purpose. I've already talked about the lore in the above paragraph but it's much the same - in NGE the lore was mostly background fluff meant to reinforce the metaphors, whereas in the Rebuilds it actively distracted me from the story by being so fucking confusing while not actually meaning jack shit in the end.

Mari is still a big ??? for me. I don't really mind her, but the little bits revealed about her history only raise more questions than answers. Fuyutsuki calling her "Mary Iscariot" is particularly confusing, because it's framed as if it's supposed to be a big revelation but it literally means nothing to us. The current theory I'm going to go with is that she was the first Evangelion test pilot and was frozen at 14-16 during the early days of the program. I definitely feel like she would have heavily benefited from more screentime throughout the previous movies because her importance in this movie doesn't really hit the way it should since we still know so little about her agenda and motivations.

Really, the biggest thing I'd want changed with this movie is to rework the whole second act to be more coherent and less flashy pointless action, and to take away the importance of the spears. The operation would be more clearly presented as Asuka going to disable Unit 13 while Mari defends the Wunder from the Adams Vessels using Unit-8's overlapping capability. It'll end with Asuka getting absorbed into Mk 13 and Mari finishing a tough fight with the Vessels that she only narrowly wins thanks to Unit-8's overlap ability absorbing each Vessel as it falls (basically like a free heal after each kill) only for the third ship to ram the Wunder from below just as she's celebrating her victory. That'll reduce the visual vomit, provide a better showcase for the new Evas, and free up some runtime for other much-needed flashbacks that we never got.

Also, instead of Misato sacrificing herself to create/deliver the final spear to Shinji through some poorly explained technobabble, I think she should've died taking the bullet for Shinji. I think at that point her story's already over - she's taken his "sin" onto herself and takes responsibility for the way she acted in 3.0, and it would've been a good parallel to how she died in EoE.
 
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Hey guys, I was in Tokyo years ago and I bought this hentai animation cel because I thought it was funny.
Does anybody know what it's from? This would probably be something from the late 80s to the mid 90s.
Couple years later, and I found it. It's from La Blue Girl.
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Maybe the real JoJolion were the friends we cucked made along the way.

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JoJo Part 9 is reportedly titled "Jojo Lands" and will be released after a short break.
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Source:
https://twitter.com/MangaMoguraRE/status/1427546859514515457

Same person that reported on Jojolion's end date but still worth taking with a grain of salt.

Additionally, a JoJo spin-off is starting this coming winter, no title has been given but based off of rough illustrations it apparently features Josuke and Hol Horse.
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Source is just an English summary of the Japanese text:
https://twitter.com/WSJ_manga/status/1427552347815882765
 
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JoJo Part 9 is reportedly titled "Jojo Lands" and will be released after a short break.
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Source:
https://twitter.com/MangaMoguraRE/status/1427546859514515457

Same person that reported on Jojolion's end date but still worth taking with a grain of salt.

Additionally, a JoJo spin-off is starting this coming winter, no title has been given but based off of rough illustrations it apparently features Josuke and Hol Horse.
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Source is just an English summary of the Japanese text:
https://mobile.twitter.com/WSJ_manga/status/1427552347815882765
I knew about Part 9 but that spin-off is news to me. Guess it's time to finally read Part 8.
 
Josuke as in like, part 8 or part 4?

Great to hear that Part 9 is indeed coming down the line. While I thought Jojolion was highly flawed, it was more so in the execution than the ideas it tried to present, and I hope Araki will learn from his experiences writing Part 8 to make Part 9 (almost certainly the final part, at this point) the best send-off to the franchise that it can be.
 
Josuke as in like, part 8 or part 4?
It's not actually known yet since the illustrations don't seem to be public.

Most people are banking on it being part 4 Josuke since Hol Horse is only in part 3 which is the original timeline so it stands to reason that it'll be original Josuke as well.

Plus part 4 Josuke needs some more time in the spotlight imo, he isn't given nearly as much importance as the JoJo's before him.
 
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JoJo Part 9 is reportedly titled "Jojo Lands" and will be released after a short break.
View attachment 2452507
Source:
https://twitter.com/MangaMoguraRE/status/1427546859514515457

Same person that reported on Jojolion's end date but still worth taking with a grain of salt.

Additionally, a JoJo spin-off is starting this coming winter, no title has been given but based off of rough illustrations it apparently features Josuke and Hol Horse.
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Source is just an English summary of the Japanese text:
https://twitter.com/WSJ_manga/status/1427552347815882765

>Kadono is writing

G u a r a n t e e d k i n o
 
Aside from Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure and Berserk, I just want to say that Baki The Grappler and Kengan Ashura (along with their spin-offs) are great to both watch and read.
Can't speak for Baki, but I agree on Kengan. Kengan-verse in general is great. But KA & KO are probably one of my favourite fight mangas to read. Plus, the community is great. It's the first time I saw a non-retarded, but also great Reddit community.
 
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Josuke as in like, part 8 or part 4?

Great to hear that Part 9 is indeed coming down the line. While I thought Jojolion was highly flawed, it was more so in the execution than the ideas it tried to present, and I hope Araki will learn from his experiences writing Part 8 to make Part 9 (almost certainly the final part, at this point) the best send-off to the franchise that it can be.
"Best send-off" Finales and anime do not mix well.
 
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