Taliban offensive of 2021 and collapse of Afghan government.

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Ahriman said:
The Taliban spokesman got a question about freedom of speech and he said the question should be asked to US companies like Facebook who claim to promote it while still censoring :story:

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Zabihullah is just one guy, and frankly probably not even really in the leadership hierarchy, but it's pretty funny that the US has succeeded in taking twenty years to go from a situation where the Taliban is led by a guy who refuses to have his picture taken to one where Western regime media outlets are going to be afraid to show the official Taliban spokesman talking to them.
 
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Divine right to rule said:
No, not really. The US has shown a remarkable inflexibility and flat-out refusal to change their war tactics since the end of WW2.
And not only war, espionage, diplomatic and intelligence as well.
How many times have they armed "moderate" rebels now, to fight against some government they do not like? And how many times has it bitten them in the ass?
How many times have they trumpeted that air superiority is the silver bullet for every military entanglement, even though war has evolved so much?
America is like the French in the post-Napoleonic era. Smug in their superiority, fighting the last war, and destined to lose the next one against any power that has atleast some capability.
You saw the Afghan army, trained and armed by the US, fold like wet tissue paper.
Don't think that it can't happen to the US army itself. This is not a wake-up call for the Pentagon or the politicians. They will continue EXACTLY as before.
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And when the PLA takes everything for the CCP, you think they'll still do business as usual after that?

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Dear Talibs
You are invited for an all expenses paid vacation to Washington DC.
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Very truly yours,
Americans sick and tired of these grifters
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HumanHive said:
They want you dead, your children raped, and they think it’s funny.
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At this point, once the Civil War pops off, I think I'll just be content to just see things get hot after so much buildup over the years. I really feel like it's coming.
 
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Divine right to rule said:
How many times have they trumpeted that air superiority is the silver bullet for every military entanglement, even though war has evolved so much?
America is like the French in the post-Napoleonic era. Smug in their superiority, fighting the last war, and destined to lose the next one against any power that has atleast some capability.
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you're wrong. air superiority IS the silver bullet in an actual war. american military capabilities were and still are the best on the planet, no other power even comes close to being able to compete. the actual war in afghanistan was won in weeks. same in iraq.

it is not military failure that causes american defeat in these situations, but political failure. to put it simply: an armys purpose is fighting against other armies. the americans do this extraordinarily well, they are extremely effective at it.
an army can do wars, occupations, crackdowns, ethnic cleansing, genocide, deportations, scorched earth, bunch of other nasty shit, no problem. if what you need is violence, the military delivers. but if you want to build states, legal systems, public institutions, economies, and all that kind of shit which is needed to form a sovereign nation? that's not something generals and soldiers can do for you, it is simply outside their expertise.

my point is that americas failures are diplomatic and political in nature, not military.
 
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3119967d0c said:
Zabihullah is just one guy, and frankly probably not even really in the leadership hierarchy, but it's pretty funny that the US has succeeded in taking twenty years to go from a situation where the Taliban is led by a guy who refuses to have his picture taken to one where Western regime media outlets are going to be afraid to show the official Taliban spokesman talking to them.
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Maybe next they'll force the media to dub his voice the same way the UK gov did with Gerry Adams back in the day. Just imagine him speaking with an over-the-top belfast accent.
 
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Feline Supremacist said:
Vice President Amrullah Saleh and Ahmad Massoud, the son of his former mentor and famed anti-Taliban fighter Ahmed Shah Massoud, are putting together a guerilla movement in the Panjshir Valley - the only region not controlled by the Taliban.

Probably ignoring them atm, it's a fairly inhospitable area and difficult to secure. Given how much the Northern Alliance warlords were enamored of bacha bazi I doubt any Afghans will rally. Also likely hoping for some glownigger shekels.
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Been seeing some rumors that these clowns are receiving weapons and cash from the Indians, flown in out of the base that the Tajiks let them have for some insane reason.

If India actually deploys military to Afghanistan I may have to make a trip there myself.
 
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Feline Supremacist said:
Vice President Amrullah Saleh and Ahmad Massoud, the son of his former mentor and famed anti-Taliban fighter Ahmed Shah Massoud, are putting together a guerilla movement in the Panjshir Valley - the only region not controlled by the Taliban.

Probably ignoring them atm, it's a fairly inhospitable area and difficult to secure. Given how much the Northern Alliance warlords were enamored of bacha bazi I doubt any Afghans will rally. Also likely hoping for some glownigger shekels.
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CIA right now: boys looks like we got ourselves another ISIS, REV UP THOSE COCAINE AND WEAPONS SHIPMENT

3119967d0c said:
If India actually deploys military to Afghanistan I may have to make a trip there myself.
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I don't think India would go THAT hard before anyone else, they probably are just playing politics to have an ally that'll welcome them into Afghanistan in case China goes ham due to the rare metals in the region
 
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you're wrong. air superiority IS the silver bullet in an actual war. american military capabilities were and still are the best on the planet, no other power even comes close to being able to compete. the actual war in afghanistan was won in weeks. same in iraq.

it is not military failure that causes american defeat in these situations, but political failure. to put it simply: an armys purpose is fighting against other armies. the americans do this extraordinarily well, they are extremely effective at it.
an army can do wars, occupations, crackdowns, ethnic cleansing, genocide, deportations, scorched earth, bunch of other nasty shit, no problem. if what you need is violence, the military delivers. but if you want to build states, legal systems, public institutions, economies, and all that kind of shit which is needed to form a sovereign nation? that's not something generals and soldiers can do for you, it is simply outside their expertise.

my point is that americas failures are diplomatic and political in nature, not military.
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Which is why insisting on staffing it with troons, fat Shaniquas and hopelessly inept lesbo diversity recruits in infantry units is disturbing and runs counter to any military doctrine ever put down on paper; guaranteed the Chinks are not following suit, nor is any other enemy of the USA.
 
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Of course GA would.

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I don't know what it will take but we will not be saved until people are willing to violently oppose immigration, whether out of hate for the other (be it the imported or the importers) or love of their own. It's baffling to me that people get more angry at any number of political misdeeds than the mixing of peoples which is at the root of it all.
 
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PK Shitstorm said:
Are you a Christmas tree? because you're glowing like the fucking sun right now
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I respect that quip, I laughed. I don't advocate for violence that'll be easily managed, propagandized, and used as a pretense to crack down harder. It's that people must have the will for it to come to that, to resist this force on pain of death. It is that conviction which enables people to take sacrificial actions essential to a collective that can stand against it. A heroic contempt for attachment to the meaninglessness of life as individuals, a state we are kept in as it is easy to generate wind that can push around grains of sand.
 
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