Taliban offensive of 2021 and collapse of Afghan government.

As someone who'd like to belive in meritocracy I used to refuse to accept that incompetent assholes can reach such heights of power, but the more I look up the happenings in China and around the world in general the more I believe that complete morons run the world, so my pick is mostly 3 with a dash of 4.

 
Glowies from all over Central Asia. They REALLY don’t want the Taliban to take a look at them as targets. India also has long supported the north.
The Taliban doesn't look at anyone as 'targets'.

But yes, subhuman indian filth do support the shitstirrers in the north, from their base in Tajkistan that someone should take care of, because they fear Pakistan really taking a look at liberating the Kashmiris from streetshitter occupation.
 
MILLEY: "There was nothing that I or anyone else saw that indicated a collapse of this army and this government in 11 days."
First, we already know that claim is a lie.

Second, it doesn't fucking matter.
These clowns had seven fucking months to prepare and did absolutely nothing. Nothing.

Months ago all non-essential personnel should have long been sent home.
All military equipment should have been either secured or destroyed.
The embassy should have been purged of anything and everything not needed for the orderly, phased withdrawal.
All non-US citizens should have been moved to friendly allied countries.
A debate on what to do with these people should have taken place.

The rank incompetence just to own Trump and the phased withdrawal that was basic common sense that any administration would have negotiated is almost impossible to put in words.
 
The Taliban doesn't look at anyone as 'targets'.

But yes, subhuman indian filth do support the shitstirrers in the north, from their base in Tajkistan that someone should take care of, because they fear Pakistan really taking a look at liberating the Kashmiris from streetshitter occupation.
They want the Taliban busy so they don’t try and start an Islamic revolution at home. And yes the Indians will do their best to supply any rebels in Afghanistan.
 
First, we already know that claim is a lie.

Second, it doesn't fucking matter.
These clowns had seven fucking months to prepare and did absolutely nothing. Nothing.

Months ago all non-essential personnel should have long been sent home.
All military equipment should have been either secured or destroyed.
The embassy should have been purged of anything and everything not needed for the orderly, phased withdrawal.
All non-US citizens should have been moved to friendly allied countries.
A debate on what to do with these people should have taken place.

The rank incompetence just to own Trump and the phased withdrawal that was basic common sense that any administration would have negotiated is almost impossible to put in words.
All of those things would have signaled that they were actually leaving, and the liberation would have happened sooner.

So they didn't do it. Same reason they lied to the puppet government's fake police and army, telling them that those who surrendered were being executed- just trying to keep the balls up in the air a little longer.
They want the Taliban busy so they don’t try and start an Islamic revolution at home. And yes the Indians will do their best to supply any rebels in Afghanistan.
lol Kashmir isn't home for the Indian regime. While retarded American faggots bleat about democracy, Modi took self-rule (guaranteed in the Indian constitution, and the only reason Kashmir joined India) away from them.

They will be liberated.
 
All of those things would have signaled that they were actually leaving, and the liberation would have happened sooner.

So they didn't do it. Same reason they lied to the puppet government's fake police and army, telling them that those who surrendered were being executed- just trying to keep the balls up in the air a little longer.

lol Kashmir isn't home for the Indian regime. While retarded American faggots bleat about democracy, Modi took self-rule (guaranteed in the Indian constitution, and the only reason Kashmir joined India) away from them.

They will be liberated.
I was talking about the central Asians in regard to the Islamic revolution, I really don’t care who controls Kashmir.
 
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No one has any desire to see some sort of Islamic revolution in the vein of the Iranian revolution or ISIS. Especially in Central Asia. The Chinese and Russians will tolerate Taliban rule, they’ll probably look the other way if it allows Al-Qaeda to set up training camps, but they won’t tolerate the taliban fueling insurgency and unrest in their backyards.
 
No one has any desire to see some sort of Islamic revolution in the vein of the Iranian revolution or ISIS. Especially in Central Asia. The Chinese and Russians will tolerate Taliban rule, they’ll probably look the other way if it allows Al-Qaeda to set up training camps, but they won’t tolerate the taliban fueling insurgency and unrest in their backyards.
Too fucking late for that. The Pakistani ISI lost control of the Taliban fully years ago, and there’s parts of the Pakistani military fighting one another over what to do with them. They happily created a monster to get a steady supply of people to go die in India for them but can’t direct it worth a shit half the time.
 
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All of those things would have signaled that they were actually leaving, and the liberation would have happened sooner.
If they refers to anyone but Biden, the negotiated phased withdrawal was backed by a return to attacks on the Taliban for sticking to the agreement.

You have Areas 1,2,3,... in Aghanistan. You move people and equipment out of Area 1. The Taliban stick to the agreement and do not attack. It is in both parties interest not to break the agreement. Once the US and all equipment and personnel is out of Area 1 the Taliban is free to take control of Area 1. The US then moves on to Area 2. And the process repeats until all that is left is a single well protected military base with nothing but a skeleton crew and sufficient forces to protect it.

The phased withdrawal was in both parties interest.

There was absolutely no reason for the Taliban to start to liberate the regions they did not control early since the US was ultimately leaving regardless. Any attacks on US forces would have put the ultimate US pullout in jeopardy which was not in the interest of the Taliban.
 

There is some resistance, weak and isolated but the Taliban don’t have total control yet.

(The long war journal is the shit-regardless of it being a neo con backed blog, it’s probably one one of the most honest, informed and reliable news outlets/commentary sites on Islamic terror in the Middle East on the internet-I completely vouch for it).

Let just go ahead and drop a bunch of spoilers.
Here is how shit will go. The Taliban have gotten nearly every single warlord on their side - but all that means is that they have basically gotten them into a non-aggression pact. "we are allowed to move through these areas, we won't shoot at you and you won't shoot at us", and there is likely some money involved as well. This doesn't mean they are friends.

Next what is happening that the Taliban will be rounding up anyone they have a beef with. Guys in the old government, collaborators, faggots - people who don't have a lot friends, or who have underlings willing to sell them out. They talk to and/or pay off the local Imam to get these people. They also go after theives and criminals, and start trying to settle disputes. And in the western part of the country, that will go all well and good.

What comes next is when local commanders start going full Sharia, and they start trying this shit in the east. These warlords and elders who were fine letting the Taliban pass through are not OK letting them set up shop and run things. They are outsiders, and thusly haram.

So you'll see (well, as much as the cowardly faggots in the media will attempt to report - that is, not much) the Taliaban get sucked into an Iraq situation where from the dust of victory, those opposed to them will start to crawl out from the debris and fighting them. But, not being bound by international ROE, they will start cracking down. But with no air cover/air transpo, when the going gets tough the forward deployed Taliban will say fuck this, shoot some villagers and shift back to areas the Taliban control.
And the reistance groups are going to get backed by everyone in the region.

This is what happened post-communism. Its going to happen all over again.


air drop supplies from where? who is backing them up? burger air force?
Airdrop who's supplies, I doubt the Americans are keen on backing anti Taliban forces when their balls are in an airport sized vice.

As others have said, everywhere in central Asia. No one wants a restful, in-control Taliban. You don't even need to fund the "opposition", you can simply foment unrest inside the Taliban ranks.
China is very likely to work with the Taliban but support/payoff any anti-taliban forces. They are a little less savy/glowy than the US/Britain in the destablizing countries without touching them game.

Pakistan likes to play both sides. There are also elements in Pakistan government that support/get support from the Taliban, and the oppostion in Pakistan do not want them to have united Afghanistan because if the Taliban aren't killing people in Afghanistan, they'll be killing people in Pakistan.

The other *stans also dont' want the Taliban to start infiltrating them.

Iran hates the Taliban, and that'll come to a head once things settle down. For the moment, they are more or less sitting back and laughing as 20 years of nation building implodes rapidly, and rubbing thier hands at the thoughts of a pipeline to China.

India has already been discussed.
 
Too fucking late for that. The Pakistani ISI lost control of the Taliban fully years ago, and there’s parts of the Pakistani military fighting one another over what to do with them. They happily created a monster to get a steady supply of people to go die in India for them but can’t direct it worth a shit half the time.
The central Asian stans are mostly run by aging post soviet autocrats(or their immediate successors)-with Islamic populations. If those states’ fall your looking at a collapse of Russian and Chinese influence in the heart of Eurasia. Do you really think they’d let some sort of Sunni internationalist insurgency pull that region out from their feet?

You mention Pakistan, a resurgent and outward looking Taliban could reignite the insurgency in northwest Pakistan and undermine the government in Islamabad. Not to mention providing training and manpower for thousands of potential trouble makers in Kashmir for India.

None of the surrounding states will tolerate the Taliban trying to overturn the whole order.

Which means that anti Taliban forces will be backed-at least as an insurance policy.

“Spread terror and unrest and we’ll start dropping ammo caches on that warlord’s hideout you haven’t breached yet”.
 
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