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Someone had bribed the FDA big enough to allow a new experimental drug but they still stubborn about ivermectin and HCQ. https://www.americanthinker.com/art...orized_an_early_covid_treatment_protocol.html
August 19, 2021

The FDA has authorized an early COVID treatment protocol​

By James Stansbury

After nearly a year-and-a-half and over 618,000 recorded COVID-related deaths in the U.S. alone, the FDA has finally released an emergency use authorization for REGEN-COV, a new drug that was being tested in 2020 (pre-Biden). Primary care physicians can now use it as an early treatment option. Before now, the only authorized COVID-19 early treatment my family doctor had, per the July 2021 update to NIH guidelines, was to recommend quarantine and then wait until symptoms go away or report to a hospital if they get worse. Of note, these updated guidelines continue to identify hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) as a prohibited drug – although this should not be a surprise considering the war on HCQ began soon after President Trump dared to recommend it.

REGEN-COV, however, is no simple take-home medicine like the familiar Tamiflu frequently prescribed in the past for the seasonal flu. For example, in the “old days” that ended in March 2020, my wife and I both caught the seasonal flu. Our doctor immediately prescribed Tamiflu and azithromycin because he knew that delaying even a few days would make Tamiflu less effective. Like Tamiflu, REGEN-COV is similarly recommended only for early use before severe symptoms can develop.
Once the initial surge of COVID-19 cases and deaths started in March-April 2020, the seasonal flu magically vanished along with Tamiflu despite some early indications it works on COVID. Coincidentally with its approving a new drug, the CDC is finally pulling the plug on the PCR test for COVID-19. The PCR test often gave false positives and can misidentify the seasonal flu as COVID-19 (although it will remain in use through the end of 2021).

According to the FDA fact sheet on REGEN-COV, the intravenous infusion process it requires appears time-consuming (it can take 20 to 50 minutes or more, with a one-hour monitoring period immediately after). For now, the FDA recommends it for use only on confirmed COVID-19 patients over the age of 12 who are at high risk of developing severe symptoms. However, the fact sheet permits some flexibility in using it as a preventative to especially high-risk patients. It sounds so promising that the FDA was careful to say it is not a substitute for the vaccines.
The FDA has known from the beginning that early treatment of COVID-19 is essential, yet it chose to ignore India’s great success with its initial early treatment protocol that initially included HCQ. However, when the Delta variant arrived in India, it appeared more resistant to HCQ, so India immediately approved and widely distributed a new more potent outpatient COVID kit consisting of Ivermectin, Doxycycline, and Zinc. This less-than-$3 kit quickly reversed the Delta variant death trend there.
 
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Ultimately, as we all know, it's all about money and power, and they are doing that 'click your fingers and want it to happen yesterday' thing, that is rampant amongst lefties.

Personally I think that Fauci and Co (Soros) are PISSED in a major way that Pfizer (and the others, Pfizer especially though), beat them to the punch. Pfizer and it's shareholders have made billions, while Fauci, Soros, the Democrats, have been left in their dust.

All of this 'push push push' is purely to make sure, that they get their 'fair share'.

We know that 'big business', doesn't give a hoot about collateral damage, as long as they keep raking in their billions. It's easier to pay out a few hundred million for injured and dead people, than it is to fix the issue that is causing it. It's called a risk assessment, they covered themselves really well this time with the indemnity clauses in the contracts (insurance companies are based on it), and the general public is always the last consideration.

We left morals and ethics in the dirt a long, long time ago, and it's only now (thanks to easy access to technology) that we're truly seeing, how many of our fellow 'citizens' also have no morals and ethics.
What do you mean Soros? I'm not sure exactly which Pharma companies he has a stake in, but a few years before the "pandemic", there were articles pointing out how Soros had invested in the pharmaceutical industry. Even some from left-wing sources there was advice on how to invest if you wanted to invest like Soros. Now I don't think Soros released the virus from Wuhan or is phoning governments calling for lockdowns or vaccine passports or shit like that, but odds are he isn't losing anything from Pfizer, Moderna, or any other Pharma company getting their stock prices inflated from the vaccine.

Of course, Soros loves the "pandemic", since it gives his friends in government the excuse to push through their totalitarian agenda, enriches the billionaires, and odds are Soros himself is making bank with the money he invested in Big Pharma a few years ago.
So there is this nurse on Twitter: @Jessicam6946.
She claims that she had to witness death of 14 year old from COVID as her parents didn't allow her to intubate their daughter.

I press X, as her Twitter account is overflowing with a serious case of TDS. She went as far as calling it "Trump virus" in her other tweets.


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Intubation is pretty much the leading factor behind "long COVID". Sucks to be that 14 year old girl though, given the odds are very high her parents murdered her via childhood obesity.
 
Study released people over 50 (Double-Vaxxed) who get Delta die at a higher rate than (un-vaxxed).

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Over 50s aren't dying at a higher rate. Rate is proportionate. You need to account for the greater number of people in the double vaxxed category than the unvaxxed one in that age group. The most reasonable way I see of doing that is seeing case outcome by cohort. We had 21,472 cases in the double vaxxed group and 389 deaths, that's a death rate of 1.81%. The unvaxxed group had only 3,440 cases with 205 deaths, for a death rate of 5.96% This data shows that for an over 50, the shot reduced the risk of death by about a factor of three.

Still a 67% reduction in bad outcome is not as impressive as the 99.9999% they keep spouting, but it's still useful if you are in the 4% more who survived.

I think the fact that it doesn't do anything for the under 50s. The numbers are quite small, and sometimes one will be ahead a bit as this chart is updated, but the vaxxed under 50s got a 0.0509% chance of death and the unvaxxed have a 0.0325% chance.
 
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So there is this nurse on Twitter: @Jessicam6946.
She claims that she had to witness death of 14 year old from COVID as her parents didn't allow her to intubate their daughter.

I press X, as her Twitter account is overflowing with a serious case of TDS. She went as far as calling it "Trump virus" in her other tweets.


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That is definitely a Tumblr style "and then everyone clapped" work of fanwanking if I ever saw it.
 
So there is this nurse on Twitter: @Jessicam6946.
She claims that she had to witness death of 14 year old from COVID as her parents didn't allow her to intubate their daughter.

I press X, as her Twitter account is overflowing with a serious case of TDS. She went as far as calling it "Trump virus" in her other tweets.


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Should be easy to check up on. Would help to know the state, but if they haven't reported a death of a 14-19 year old on the 15th, or at least by the 16th it's bullshit. Assuming it is the US.

Yeah, she's a fucking liar. Like most nurses I have known, she's attention seeking scum. https://www.caredash.com/doctors/jessica-croft-vw99v This person in Kansas matches her names and credentials and you know what Kansas hasn't had during all of covid? Any deaths between the ages of 10-17 as of 8/16/21. Did lose two children between 0-9 and 12 people from 17-24. I would imagine that was toddlers and then 20 somethings. https://www.coronavirus.kdheks.gov/160/COVID-19-in-Kansas

Also she claims that a 25 year old man died right after. All those rare young deaths just line up for her over a weekend. How convenient. It would be the sort of story the news eats up, but again nothing on it. Given what ass the Kansas data is to go through compared to my preferred states to check on, I don't have weekly PDFs to check back on to really nail down that coffin, but I'd still throw the first stone with confidence.
 
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Just let the words "unauthorised protest" marinate with ya for a while. My colleagues are pozzed and welcomed the lockdowns with open arms. I have been made a mockery of by my seniors, in front of the whole workforce, for simply saying theres a financial incentive for a company to put out a vaccine first for a 'pandemic' that ground the civilised world to a halt. The only way ive been able to have a remotely 'good faith' conversation with them about anything covid is shifting it to mental health.
 
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Just let the words "unauthorised protest" marinate with ya for a while. My colleagues are pozzed and welcomed the lockdowns with open arms. I have been made a mockery of by my seniors, in front of the whole workforce, for simply saying theres a financial incentive for a company to put out a vaccine first for a 'pandemic' that ground the civilised world to a halt. The only way ive been able to have a remotely 'good faith' conversation with them about anything covid is shifting it to mental health.
I bet China put out a lot of messages like this during the Hong Kong protests, or Ukraine, Egypt, Tunisia, and every other country Color Revolution'd by NATO. Wonderful totalitarianism.
 
So there is this nurse on Twitter: @Jessicam6946.
She claims that she had to witness death of 14 year old from COVID as her parents didn't allow her to intubate their daughter.

I press X, as her Twitter account is overflowing with a serious case of TDS. She went as far as calling it "Trump virus" in her other tweets.


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I honestly believe that a large majority of these stories on social media are fake. If one were to commit the resources needed to debunk their claims it is not the propagandist that would be vilfied. Rather it would be the one calling out the lies as they are "challenging a narrative designed to help people."

Funny, if one were to change this to Black murders or Islamic terrorism the sentiment would be opposite.
 
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I honestly believe that a large majority of these stories on social media are fake. If one were to commit the resources needed to debunk their claims it is not the propagandist that would be vilfied. Rather it would be the one calling out the lies as they are "challenging a narrative designed to help people."

Funny, if one were to change this to Black murders or Islamic terrorism the sentiment would be opposite.
I've always theorized that the majority of uncorroborated stories people post online are fake, covid or not. Like maybe a third are true. Maybe.

I don't know why people believe it all. 20 years ago common wisdom was you don't take anything on the internet at face value because anyone can say anything. Now people believe everything.
 
I saw one of those "with their last dying breath they advised everyone to get the vaccine" stories this morning. How can anyone take it seriously when it reads like a cheesy soap opera?

As for "unauthorized protests," if living through 2020 in America taught me anything it is that as long as you tell the police they are racist and that you want them dead, and burn a dumpster you'll be fine.
 
What do you mean Soros? I'm not sure exactly which Pharma companies he has a stake in, but a few years before the "pandemic", there were articles pointing out how Soros had invested in the pharmaceutical industry. Even some from left-wing sources there was advice on how to invest if you wanted to invest like Soros. Now I don't think Soros released the virus from Wuhan or is phoning governments calling for lockdowns or vaccine passports or shit like that, but odds are he isn't losing anything from Pfizer, Moderna, or any other Pharma company getting their stock prices inflated from the vaccine.

Of course, Soros loves the "pandemic", since it gives his friends in government the excuse to push through their totalitarian agenda, enriches the billionaires, and odds are Soros himself is making bank with the money he invested in Big Pharma a few years ago.

Intubation is pretty much the leading factor behind "long COVID". Sucks to be that 14 year old girl though, given the odds are very high her parents murdered her via childhood obesity.
Soros has his hand in every pie, he literally believes he is a god, and that comes straight from his own mouth.
He is 'classified' as one of the elites but he didn't get there, through being of the favoured families, he got there on money alone, well I could think of a few other things that would have helped as well. I can only hazard a guess but he knows he's bottom of the pile, and in his narcissistic, psychopathic mind, that is not possible. 'HE' should be leader of the world, 'HE' should be the leader of the elites, not their gopher.
Honestly, I'm hoping the other elites are giving him enough rope to hang himself, and when he does they'll take him out.
He has contributed more destruction to the world, than anyone else combined.
He owns Open Society Foundation, funding 100s (527) of businesses/groups, including Media Matters, Antifa, and BLM, who funnel money through other means to the Democrats. That is how he bypasses the laws about political/election funding.
He is full on tangled in the drug cartels, although supposedly no one can find any links, he proposes changes to laws that see drugs on the street, drug dealers not being punished.
He is behind the muslim immigration all over the world, especially in Europe.
He has his hand in climate change propaganda, little miss 'How Dare You', anything that is about taking away people's freedom and independence, he is there. I'm pretty sure he's also had a hand in the destruction of Gates, although Gates was doing a great job of that by himself, Soros pushed him though, and now Gates believes that he is also a god.
There were many articles written about him in 2016, the pro-Soros ones are hilarious, as they are treating him like his some all-knowing prophet, and at the same time touting all these flaws, as if he 'is just a human, like everyone else, and makes mistakes too'.
Quite a few people have done full on flow charts, that trace all the links between the businesses/groups, but you don't even need to see them, all you need to do is go onto the OSF website and look at what he funds for yourself, from there it's very easy to see who is involved.
All of the videos that get put up on social media, never last long. There are copies on quite a few websites though.

Moderna's biggest bankrollers and owners are NIH, which is Fauci and his wife, and Gates Foundation.
Soros has also been involved with all the big RNA developers.

Questions that need answers, as I'm not sure I believe what has been 'found' so far. Who was Moderna before they were Moderna, and who was involved in the morphing?
Never rely on anything written in the last few years, even the last 5 years.
 
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Over 50s aren't dying at a higher rate. Rate is proportionate. You need to account for the greater number of people in the double vaxxed category than the unvaxxed one in that age group. The most reasonable way I see of doing that is seeing case outcome by cohort. We had 21,472 cases in the double vaxxed group and 389 deaths, that's a death rate of 1.81%. The unvaxxed group had only 3,440 cases with 205 deaths, for a death rate of 5.96% This data shows that for an over 50, the shot reduced the risk of death by about a factor of three.

Still a 67% reduction in bad outcome is not as impressive as the 99.9999% they keep spouting, but it's still useful if you are in the 4% more who survived.

I think the fact that it doesn't do anything for the under 50s. The numbers are quite small, and sometimes one will be ahead a bit as this chart is updated, but the vaxxed under 50s got a 0.0509% chance of death and the unvaxxed have a 0.0325% chance.
While I agree with your assessment, real vaccine efficacy is likely lower, since the end result needs to be adjusted for confounding bias. Unvaccinated and vaccinated cohorts of 50 plus year olds are not similar. You should expect more frail people to be in the second cohort, since they can't get vaccinated due to their health status. More vulnerable in "unvaccinated" group->higher mortality->"higher" vaccine efficacy
That is why patients in different arms of a clinical study should be matched not only by race, age or gender, but by their health status, too.
Israel is experiencing the same problem, some Israeli data scientists/MDs wrote about it.
 
Everyone's talking about Pfizer and Moderna, but what about J&J? Is it safer? It isn't mRNA but your cells are still fooled into making spike proteins.
I think that in Europe, or at least in some European countries, they're not giving it to pre-menopausal women because of increased clotting risks, but it's supposed to be "safe" for men and older women.
I know three people who took the J&J, two had no side effects and one spent three days with a massive fever that came and went suddenly. I had that happen to me with a flu shot once, when I was a kid, so it's like a classical vaccine I guess.
In the end nobody can tell you about the true safety because we all react differently. If you want reassurance, there's one guy who DIY'ed his own adenovirus in a lab to cure his lactose intolerance and he's still alive.
 
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Just let the words "unauthorised protest" marinate with ya for a while. My colleagues are pozzed and welcomed the lockdowns with open arms. I have been made a mockery of by my seniors, in front of the whole workforce, for simply saying theres a financial incentive for a company to put out a vaccine first for a 'pandemic' that ground the civilised world to a halt. The only way ive been able to have a remotely 'good faith' conversation with them about anything covid is shifting it to mental health.
They're using the lockdowns to push the vaccines, in fact I'm coming to think the only reason for the lockdowns is to make the population so sick of them that they'll agree to anything to make them stop.

Today Gladys said if NSW gets to 80% vaccination rate for adults she'll grant some small privileges to the jab takers. MAYBE they'll get to go out and eat a meal, outside, while wearing a mask.

I'm tired, working nights, but I caught an interview on the ABC today before heading off. Interviewer was asking the Aus treasurer about economic stuff and how small businesses were going under. Not to worry, the government are handing out gibs and everyone should relax because the vaccines will mean no more lockdowns. The interviewer mentioned Israel and how they're seeing thousands of cases with 80% of the population vaccinated. She mentioned this not to highlight how the vaccines aren't working, which they're obviously not, but how the only sensible course of action is to get everyone jabbed AND to keep going with the lockdowns. We're fucked, how will this ever end?

Everyone gets the clot shots. We 'open up' with fewer restrictions, a semi lockdown, until case numbers pick up again, then more hard lockdowns until 80 or 90% of the population get the booster, and so on. A giant boot kicking us in the face for eternity.

So no, Australia doesn't have FEMA camps, the whole country is a fucking FEMA camp.
 
I honestly believe that a large majority of these stories on social media are fake. If one were to commit the resources needed to debunk their claims it is not the propagandist that would be vilfied. Rather it would be the one calling out the lies are they are challenging a narrative designed to help people.

Funny, if one were to change this to Black murders or Islamic terrorism the sentiment would be opposite.
I looked into it. She's from Kansas and no one between the ages of 10-17 has even died there of covid yet. She made it up.
While I agree with your assessment, real vaccine efficacy is likely lower, since the end result needs to be adjusted for confounding bias. Unvaccinated and vaccinated cohorts of 50 plus year olds are not similar. You should expect more frail people to be in the second cohort, since they can't get vaccinated due to their health status. More vulnerable in "unvaccinated" group->higher mortality->"higher" vaccine efficacy
That is why patients in different arms of a clinical study should be matched not only by race, age or gender, but by their health status, too.
Israel is experiencing the same problem, some Israeli data scientists/MDs wrote about it.
That is fair and I postulated that too, in an earlier time this data came out a few weeks back, or in the one before it. I was simplying it more to show that it's not proof of a worse outcome yet. It's also why I didn't bring up the fact one shotters are doing better than two. These people are most certainly younger than the average age of the double vaxxed and should be dying at a lower rate. The under 50s are more telling for it doing little. I still think there's a potential it is offering some mitigation in the very old who survive the series of shots that is. Whether it will put them in greater danger as it starts to wane is something we should all be keeping an eye on.
 
Over 50s aren't dying at a higher rate. Rate is proportionate. You need to account for the greater number of people in the double vaxxed category than the unvaxxed one in that age group. The most reasonable way I see of doing that is seeing case outcome by cohort. We had 21,472 cases in the double vaxxed group and 389 deaths, that's a death rate of 1.81%. The unvaxxed group had only 3,440 cases with 205 deaths, for a death rate of 5.96% This data shows that for an over 50, the shot reduced the risk of death by about a factor of three.

Still a 67% reduction in bad outcome is not as impressive as the 99.9999% they keep spouting, but it's still useful if you are in the 4% more who survived.

I think the fact that it doesn't do anything for the under 50s. The numbers are quite small, and sometimes one will be ahead a bit as this chart is updated, but the vaxxed under 50s got a 0.0509% chance of death and the unvaxxed have a 0.0325% chance.
The thing the chart doesn't show is when they died. It goes from February, when the vaccines weren't even available to anyone under 70, and only a relative few under 80, all the way to August. A month-by-month breakdown would be far more useful.
 
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