Taliban offensive of 2021 and collapse of Afghan government.

[The golden neckbeard]

They believe its a mandate from Allah.

Well yeah that and half of them die from simple ailments that could be treated....tooth infections for example.

No different than our ancestors. My Pee-Paw had 11 brothers and sisters in the 1930's. Turns out People without distractions and entertainment tend to have alot of sex

 

[Enig]

I was on a PSD team providing security for the command group of a major division in the army. I was lucky enough to sit in on a shura between an ANA commander and one of our generals. Our general was trying to bring up concerns about a mountain range near a fob where the IDF was originating from. The ANA commander looks at the TV on in the corner points to it and says "Looney Toons" and dismisses any concerns we had. Our general continues to push about the rockets getting fired off from that mountain and the ANA commander again points to the TV but this time says "bugs bunny".

I got a nice goat stew, free red bulls and a dope prayer rug from the ANA commander and got to see his cool mansion but came out of that meeting thinking that Afghanistan was fucked.

Well he ain't wrong, watching the IDF go Wile E. Coyote with mountaintop goatfuckers is like golden age Warner Bros.

 

[Random Internet Person]

United States of Venezuela showing that there is always time to go deeper in the shithole

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WH: there was absolutely no fucking way to know that this was going to happen

Reality:

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You know, after the 2020 election and 1/6, I feel like there should be a pool for when the next shitshow will happen. And even then, it’ll be a miracle if the US has another blowup before China does something.

 

[Intensening Rapeye]

I think that it’s worth noting that:

i) Afghanistan is beautiful geographically.

ii) Tom Cruise

 

[Random Internet Person]

Thread by @NickForVA on Thread Reader App

Thread by @NickForVA: Afghanistan Lesson 1: An orderly military withdrawal can turn into an unorganized retreat very quickly when you have diminished your military options without achieving certain key benchmarks. ...…

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Kabul signing off.

 

[дядя Боря]

I wonder what will happen when it dawns on certain people that the US publicly had its ass handed to it in public, on live video, by medieval goatfuckers; that it is finished as a superpower and is much in the position the USSR found itself after the fall of its Afghanistan excursion? That the US head of state and second in line to the presidency are cowering under their desks and the President makes speeches that even banana republic strongmen laugh at?

Well, USSR actually wasted close to a hundred thou armed goat fuckers and close to 2 million non-armed ones with dozen thou losses. Basically they genocided the fuck out of that country without any apologies nor reach around. US occupation was pretty weak sauce compared to that.

They withdrew in orderly columns and left behind only the shit they didn't care about leaving behind, they didn't run in panic. No one kicked them out. All this while US and Pakis supplied assloads of weapons.

I don't remember all the details of British retreat in 19th century, they had some really gnarly battles, even East India Co used Indian sepoys a lot, so less loss of Brits, but US is def taking the prize for the most FUBAR Afgan campain ever.

 

[Delta Integrale]

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Thread by @NickForVA: Afghanistan Lesson 1: An orderly military withdrawal can turn into an unorganized retreat very quickly when you have diminished your military options without achieving certain key benchmarks. ...…

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Kabul signing off.

>Afghanistan Lesson 8: Favorable conditions for nation-building include a strong national identity, common culture...
I know this guy is trying to be non-partisan and I have no idea about his politics but this is very ironic given the current state of domestic affairs in the US.

 

[MG-34]

They withdrew in orderly columns and left behind only the shit they didn't care about leaving behind, they didn't run in panic. No one kicked them out. All this while US and Pakis supplied assloads of weapons.

No, you're bullshitting. The Soviets got a black eye leaving Afghanistan.

Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan - Wikipedia

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As agreed, the withdrawal was "front-loaded", with half of the Soviet force leaving by August. The withdrawal was complicated, however, by the rapid deterioration of the situation in Afghanistan. While the United States was not bound by any commitment to stop arms shipments and continued to supply the Afghan mujahideen in Pakistan, the latter was not delivering on its commitment to prevent weaponry and militants from flowing into Afghanistan through the Durand Line. Likewise, the mujahedeen also continued their attacks on withdrawing Soviet forces.[4]:150 The Soviet Union repeatedly reported these violations of the Geneva Accords to United Nations monitoring bodies, and even pleaded with the United States to influence the factions that they were supplying. The desire of the Soviet Union to withdraw, however, coupled with the United States' inability to control the behaviour of the mujahedeen, meant that the Soviet objections did not yield any results.

USSR red army tanks graveyard, east of Kabul, Afghanistan

USSR red army tanks graveyard— few km east of Kabul, Afghanistan When Russia left Afghanistan after the war, a lot of their equipment was l...

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USSR red army tanks graveyard— few km east of Kabul, Afghanistan
When Russia left Afghanistan after the war, a lot of their equipment was left behind.

TL;DR The Soviets lost 525 men and left under constant attack by the Mujahedeen.

 

[Meat Target]

WH: there was absolutely no fucking way to know that this was going to happen

Reality:

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Everything we already knew is being confirmed.

 

[Leslie Nielsen]

Ok please explain in detail how a delayed withdrawal that we are currently witnessing would be "A good idea" than one that is planned out and orderly that could be executed over months?

He can't, cause he's a fucking retard. The amount of Lefty cope just on this site is enough to power a nuclear reactor. It's almost like they forgot we were already in the process of pulling people out.

 

[Techpriest]

>Afghanistan Lesson 8: Favorable conditions for nation-building include a strong national identity, common culture...
I know this guy is trying to be non-partisan and I have no idea about his politics but this is very ironic given the current state of domestic affairs in the US.

The US does have a strong national identity and common culture. US culture at the moment is probably the most unified it’s been historically tbh.

He can't, cause he's a fucking retard. The amount of Lefty cope just on this site is enough to power a nuclear reactor. It's almost like they forgot we were already in the process of pulling people out.

Nah, I already stated why the delay was a good idea, but also risky.

The idea is simple. The main campaign season in Afghanistan starts around May. With the existing “don’t attack us” agreement already in place, we cuck the Taliban out of various strategic positions over a few months and make it harder for them to press their advantage as we’re drawing down. The US footprint by this point in country is pretty small by this point but it’s still enough to keep places out of their hands we don’t want them to have before we turn it over to the ANA. This burns away the time the Taliban have to really take crucial points of the country and (hopefully) means the Afghan government can establish a hold as the fighting winds down for the year, or at least means we can remove more people from the country. We did - lots of contractors left with the US military.

The risk is the longer we stay, the more the Taliban can work on bribing/flipping units of the police and army. This though had been happening since the withdrawal agreement was signed in 2020.

Nobody up top expected the implosion of the ANA/Police to be so fast or so wide spread, or the Taliban to move so quick everywhere.

The May deadline would have spilled into June anyway, simply because of the flood of people that would have tried to leave with us. Like happened now. The Afghan government really didn’t want to encourage translators and staffers to flee the country - it undermines their legitimacy. Same reason why no politician in charge was going to openly admit that “I don’t think the Afghan government has a chance in hell of lasting more than three months.” Looks bad. So does this but you can shift the blame around.

 

[X Prime]

>US culture is unified

Opinion discarded. Consume hat on video to regain even the barest shred of credibility.

 

[make_it_so]

So its becoming more and more clear that the ship is rudderless, various world leaders had been trying to get in contact with Biden, or anyone really at the White House and got nothing for 36 hours or longer. Trudeau had to call Hillary Clinton to get someone even remotely connected to the government. The radio silence the US Public has recieved also extends to the various allies at the airport like Turkey and Britain who have troops on the ground.View attachment 2459526
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To my knowledge Biden is still hiding in his Delaware house given that there was a NOTAM during the transfer process to his house and Kamala has not been seen for the better part of two weeks, though supposedly she has been tasked to handle the Haiti earthquake relief.

Do any of the exceptional individuals running the Biden administration realize or even care how damaging this is to the U.S.? Not just to it's credibility, but to its very security? The primary reason we've been able to be a world superpower with global reach is because of the relationship we've had with Britain and the other victorious WWII Allied nations which went on to form the core of NATO. Access to ports and airbases, diplomatic support and back up in countless international affairs and economic initiatives. All of that was and continues to be provided with the expectation that the United States leadership would not be a fucking flake, and would listen and work with them.

So not cooperating and ignoring a call from the leadership of our number 1 ally and partner who's been by our side for almost 80 years now is a unbelievably huge fucking stupid thing to do. None of Bush's worst "cowboy diplomacy" or Trump's worst "America First" dick-waving comes even close to this.

 

[Techpriest]

>US culture is unified

Opinion discarded. Consume hat on video to regain even the barest shred of credibility.

No culture is a monolith. US culture is more tight than before as regional differences are less prominent and there’s more shared experiences. The early US is when the culture of the country was the most divided, for various reasons.

 

[X Prime]

When I ordered you to consume the hat to regain credibility, I did not mean to continue gobbling some geriatric neoliberal Democrat's purple helmet.

 

[DumbDude42]

US culture at the moment is probably the most unified it’s been historically tbh.

this post is even more delusional than the guy who fantasizes about pakistan "liberating" indian cashmir lol

on topic:

Afghanistan unter den Taliban: Angehöriger eines Journalisten der Deutschen Welle getötet

Die Deutsche Welle berichtet, ein Familienangehöriger eines Journalisten des Senders sei von Taliban getötet worden. Die Taliban gingen von Haus zu Haus und suchten gezielt nach Reportern.

www.faz.net

article in german, about how a family member of some reporter from german state propaganda service 'deutsche welle' got murked by taliban. pretty based if true, these fags are absolutely insufferable. also mentions that taliban are systematically scouring the streets for foreign journalists, arresting and killing multiple of them already.

 

[Pope Negro Joe the XIIIth]

A literal fuck ton of supposition and wishful thinking that explains why it was ok to break a military treaty because orange man bad

Come up for oxygen or you're going to suffocate.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Do any of the exceptional individuals running the Biden administration realize or even care how damaging this is to the U.S.? Not just to it's credibility, but to its very security? The primary reason we've been able to be a world superpower with global reach is because of the relationship we've had with Britain and the other victorious WWII Allied nations which went on to form the core of NATO. Access to ports and airbases, diplomatic support and back up in countless international affairs and economic initiatives. All of that was continues to be provided with the expectation that the United States leadership would not be a fucking flake, and would listen and work with them.

So not cooperating and ignoring a call from the leadership of our number 1 ally and partner who's been by our side for almost 80 years now is a unbelievable huge fucking stupid thing to do. None of Bush's worst "cowboy diplomacy" or Trump's worst "America First" dick-waving comes even close to this.

I feel the answer is “no on both counts”. You already got people saying that the Biden’s are in China’s pocket, and everyone on the left reacted to Trump’s “America First” dealings as the worst thing imaginable. And then you had Obama talking about America being “citizens of the world”.

 

[Ow The Edge]

this post is even more delusional than the guy who fantasizes about pakistan "liberating" indian cashmir lol

on topic:

Afghanistan unter den Taliban: Angehöriger eines Journalisten der Deutschen Welle getötet

Die Deutsche Welle berichtet, ein Familienangehöriger eines Journalisten des Senders sei von Taliban getötet worden. Die Taliban gingen von Haus zu Haus und suchten gezielt nach Reportern.

www.faz.net

article in german, about how a family member of some reporter from german state propaganda service 'deutsche welle' got murked by taliban. pretty based if true, these fags are absolutely insufferable. also mentions that taliban are systematically scouring the streets for foreign journalists, arresting and killing multiple of them already.

Not a bad idea tbh.

 

[Screamer]

the question is why are the media turning on biden like this? is the goal to get him to resign so kween kamala can step up and take the throne?

It's more to do with this being against forever wars and the Industrial Military Complex. Remember, the only time they gave positive news to Trump was when he bombed Syria. The media is pro-war.